Carmen Rasmusen Herbert: A 12-year-old comedian takes it too far; examples from reality TV

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  • cstott Lehi, UT
    July 9, 2014 10:37 a.m.

    Are LDS people the only ones out to protect the lines of decency and the innocence of our children? Hope to think that there are more who are interested. Hss shock and entertainment become the new value? By the time we get back around to history again when we are watching two people kill each other like they are animals, it will be too late. You have to draw the line before you get there. AND CERTAINLY NOT BASH THOSE WHO ARE TRYING TO MAKE THIS WORLD A BETTER PLACE!!

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    July 9, 2014 8:46 a.m.

    Jeanie, I am LDS and always have been, although admittedly not as willing to just embrace every doctrine, utterance from leadership, and cultural quirk as many are. The older I've gotten (I'm 42), the more distance I feel between myself and the prototypical "stalwart" LDS dad and husband that I'm constantly told I have to be. I just see it as another form of peer pressure, something we all counsel our kids not to succumb to . . unless, of course, it's coming from the "right" people.

    Maybe that's a fault of mine, maybe it's a quality; it's all a matter of perspective. Point is, I'm in an awkward place . . I tend to react against the LDS norms like hand-wringing about media, yet I frequently end up defending Mormons from attacks from (mostly) "born-again" types and other critics.

  • jeanie orem, UT
    July 8, 2014 10:07 a.m.


    Thanks for your reply. Yes, some LDS people can come across as prudish, however, understand LDS doctrine teaches its members to be in the world not of it. It is a tall order. There is no ocean or continent we can cross anymore to live as we wish. We live among others who believe differently and sometime we do not handle those differences gracefully. Go easy on us.

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    July 8, 2014 7:37 a.m.

    jeanie says: "Calm the "Pollyanna" phobia. It was not merely a matter of taste in jokes, it was the age of the comedian involved."

    Point taken. This kid's act may well be worthy of criticism. But, you have to admit, LDS folk as a whole are uber-sensitive to anything that isn't squeaky clean. I've heard the word "inappropriate" misused so often it's ceased to mean anything. In real life, "inappropriate" depends on context, setting, audience, etc. In the LDS world, it means "anything you can't imagine a GA saying in conference."

    JSB says: "My wife and I haven't had TV in our home for several years and haven't missed it . . Why would anyone with a brain in his head waste time and money on this drivel?"

    I always love it when someone presents their lack of interest in TV as a badge of honor. Randomly scrolling thru channels (esp. during daytime hours) probably isn't the best indicator of TV's potential. There are a lot of well-made, entertaining and/or educational programs available. The fact that you ignore them is a matter of preference; it doesn't reflect intelligence.

  • JSB Sugar City, ID
    July 7, 2014 6:47 p.m.

    Why do you watch any T.V? My wife and I haven't had T.V. in our home for several years and haven't missed it. Then I had an operation and had to stay in the hospital for three days with nothing to do but watch T.V. so I flipped through the multitude of channels. I thought I was going through Dante's Inferno--like getting dragged through the telestial kingdom. Most of the programs seemed to be frivolous, crude, vulgar, vicious, silly, egotistical, demeaning brain rot. Nothing was mentally stimulating or uplifting. The only thing I found I could stand to watch was a tennis tournament. Why would anyone with a brain in his head waste time and money on this drivel?

  • jeanie orem, UT
    July 7, 2014 4:13 p.m.


    Whoa Nellie! It was racy jokes coming from a CHILD. Calm the "Pollyanna" phobia. It was not merely a matter of taste in jokes, it was the age of the comedian involved. If adults want to laugh at crude, racy jokes, that's their choice. If a child utters them, it is for the shock value and that's sad, not funny. Most jokes make people laugh because we can relate in some way. If a 12 year speaks to jokes beyond his years, there's a problem. All your examples were adult comedians who had seen enough of the world and life to know their preferred style.

    The author had a good point.

  • NorthOfHere Rexburg, ID
    July 7, 2014 1:09 p.m.

    Ms. Herbert,

    I applaud you for still being able to recognize filth for what it is, even when peddled by a teenager. I believe the true problem of our culture's media pollution is evidenced by the fact that you and your sister continued to watch the show despite the foul material. That kind of material will continue to be produced because those who are offended by it (which I believe is still the actual majority) continue to consume it.

    Turn it off. Don't turn the channel for five minutes and then go back and continue the program; turn it off. Find the good in media. Who cares if there is not anything to talk about around the water cooler in the morning. If we, as a majority, still get offended by the profanity in the media we can send the message that it won't sell by not participating. Turn it off. Delete the movies, TV shows and music. Block the website.

    Things like this show will eventually die off. They can't be sustained. Don't let it make a permanent mark on you.

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    July 7, 2014 12:49 p.m.

    Went and watched him. I'm certainly not one to get upset about stand-up comedians, as I watch many that I'm sure the author wouldn't condone. My problem is that he's not a good comedian. His delivery is terrible and his jokes are beyond predictable. The first one shocked because nobody expected racy behavior, but from then on, it was terrible. The fact that the audience laughed before the punchline shows how predictable it was. His jokes are as sophisticated as a "yo momma" joke. He can't shock anymore, so his jig is up.

    Unfortunately, it was par for the course with this show. It gets the kind of singers that can't make it onto a singing show, the kind of comedians that can't make it on something like Last Comic Standing, etc.

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    July 7, 2014 12:13 p.m.

    Guess what? It's okay to reject the stereotypical LDS Pollyannish affection for Extreme Wholesomeness. It's okay not look for reasons to be offended, wring your hands and moan "Oh, what of the children?". It's okay not to confuse personal tastes with morality or some cloyingly sweet version of personal purity with character.

    I haven't heard the kid's jokes, and probably won't bother, but "blue" humor can be hysterical when the vulgarity and profanity are in service of the joke; not the whole point of the joke. It's certainly not a requirement, but neither is its absence. George Carlin was a foul-mouthed genius, and Aziz Ansari is a very funny guy, but I'm a fan of Brian Regan and Jim Gaffigan, too.

  • A_Chinese_American Cedar Hills, UT
    July 7, 2014 10:28 a.m.

    I cut the cord. Don't allow my kids to watch any those junky TV programme. Something good you would find on internet and youtube with your watch side bu side.

  • MrsH Altamont, UT
    July 7, 2014 9:42 a.m.

    Re; his parents cheering and so on...reminds me of Miley Cyrus and her disgusting acts.
    And there sit her parents in the audience looking so darn proud! Turns my stomach, I tell you.
    Teach your kids better!

  • Llew40 Sandy, UT
    July 5, 2014 12:00 a.m.

    Nothing offensive about his weak delivery of bad euphemisms. He just needs to watch more Seinfeld and take notes about becoming "master of (his) domain".

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    July 4, 2014 5:17 a.m.

    I think that the punch line is, "I don't think that's funny" that makes every one laugh, because it's so obvious it's not. May be the joke is just isn't funny. What ever it is, I don't get.