Marked:You might have a point if Miami were an older school. But
Utah was know as the "U" long before the Univ. of Miami was even found.
In any event, that's mighty bold talk from the fan of a school that
"borrowed" Yale's Y and USU's blue.
JohnInSLCNo school can legitimately claim "ownership" of a
letter of the alphabet, but it's hard to argue that Utah didn't steal
the University of Miami's hand signal.
The PAC 12 PC police in action.Next will be the nickname and the
logo.Utah should just concede the inevitable and change their
nickname to the redtailed hawks or the crimson, and drop the feather from their
Doesn't bother me. I'll just keep singing Utah Man. Doesn't
really affect the fans at the stadium either seeing as how 3/4 of them
don't know the words anyway.
@ sammygWho cares? We cheer for the University of Utah.... not a
nickname.@ Sports Are GreatBYU already changed their
fight song to be more gender neutral.
A 'fan' base in turmoil...Pretty funny isn't it? All
of this over a song?It's just a matter of time before the name
This is the New Coke of school songs. Trying to improve something that
doesn't need improving. Fortunately, it be met with the same enthusiasm
and fate. The public will ignore it and it will go away.
Does anyone else see the irony of people coming on here, complaining about the
change and how that offends them because tradition has been usurped? Many
comments are essentially people who are offended that they didn't get their
way, mad that someone was offended and demanded a change to get their way. If the lyrics to the song should be no big deal to those offended within
student government, then why should it be a big deal to you? The lyrics
don't really matter, right? It's a silly thing to be offended about,
JohnInSLC Don't hold your breath john, BYU will never be hijacked by
the looney lefties that control the lockstep UTESKINS ,
John,Thankfully the PC crazies are fewer in Provo so on one is
crying about our fight song
Lost, spud, -truth:I expect you will be signing the inevitable
petition to change the y's mascot, as middle-aged women seem to have
hijacked it from you. And you surely don't want to offend them.
Part 2 Who am I, sir,A Utah Man am I!A Utah Man, sir,Will be 'til I die.Ki-yi!Nope, gender specific,
addresses only aristocracy and implies permanenceARHey! Who am
I?We're up to snuff, we never bluff, we're game for any
fuss.Snuff? smokeless tobacco? ShameARWe think
we’re OK, but please don’t let that offend youNo other
gang of college men dare meet us in a muss.“Gang” - I thought
we already dumped that. And we are being gender specific again and putting
ourselves above others. OH NO!!ARWe like to play??So fill your lungs and sing it out and shout it to the sky,What if you
have COPD and cannot fill your lungs? How insensitive!ARMaybe
think about smiling when you think of the UWe'll fight for dear
old crimson for a Utah Man am I!Fight? Violence againMan? gender
specificFan? (suggested replacement) not all there are fans - exclusiveKi-yi! Mocking a Native American war cry?ARWe’ll pay
our taxes and tuition to support the U, but only because we have to.
I am a Utah Man, sir, Utah? most of the football team is NOT from UtahMan? that excludes women - cannot say the replacement, “fan”
because that excludes people at the U who are not into athletics, or who maybe
don’t even want to be theresir? implies knighthood and excludes
common men and all womenacceptable replacement (AR)Hey!
I’m nondescript!and I live across the green,What if
it’s parking lot all the way to where I live?ARI exist
somewhereOur gang it is the jolliest that you have ever seen.Doesn’t “gang” have a violent implication?And what if
a member of our group suffers depression?ARWe are a
nondescript groupOur coeds are the fairest and each one's a
shining star,Coed? You mean there is such a thing as gender? What??ARWe are neuteredOur yell, you'll hear it ringing
through the mountains near and far!what if we have laryngitis or live in a
valley or plain?ARPlease let us know if our cheers offend you
Sad thing about Utah's fight song. Its really not intimidating. Hard to
fear a team who's song closely resembles the Mickey mouse club song. I
would call utes fight song a work in progress. Good luck Utah
And I thought all this time you were singing "a utah pansie am
I!!!""Ute logic: ok to call yourselves UTES which is akin
to REDSKINS, but you are against using the word MAN! Hilarious! Go
Barb Snyder (University of Utah Vice President of Student Affairs) needs to get
a real job. She, and the UU President, are on the taxpayer dole spending time
ruminating and pontificating on matters such as this!?
When oh when will our society move beyond kindergarten? Sounds like if I
don't feel "included" somewhere, I can go tell the teacher and get
my way. Why can't we just suck it up and deal with things? Why did the
school administrators even entertain this? Yes, I know, it is not that big a
deal in the grand scheme of things. But it is just indicative of this overall
problem in our society. We are dealing with a generation of pansies. I have a
feeling it is only going to get worse.
Well, I'm certainly glad they won't "require" people to use
the new lyrics. I was envisioning thought police marching up and down the
stadium to arrest anyone who might dare utter the offending words.
How about "A statistically non-indigenous, but occasionally aboriginal,
gender neutral, anthropomorphic hominid, adorned in red am I?" You can
never be too careful! That hawk as a mascot has got to go; way too warlike!
I'm thinking "the miffed Maltese". The new mascot would be so
chrisb and these other ute fans crack me up!What "original"
song are they going to sing? Most don't know all the words to ANY of the
versions!but I do think "they are the jolliest that we have ever
seen" LOLGo Aggies!
I am so glad to see student government at the U taking on the weightier matters
facing the university and the students. They are truly being prepared for
today's political world of posturing and pandering without accomplishing
anything useful or solving any real problems. What a legacy!
The tune isn't original. Just sing Solomon Levi like it is written.
Weakly bending to liberal bias. I'm just glad I'm NOT a Utah man!The U
of U just decided to scrap decades of tradition. This is cowardly.
"We also recognize that people will sing whatever choose to sing, and we
fully support that." Well there you have it then, during the fight
song I was thinking of singing the lyrics to 'Over the River and Through
the Woods' anyway. I'm glad I have permission from University
officials to sing whatever I feel like now. Another song, although poorly kept
secret, that works well as a partner song with Utah Man is 99 Bottles of Beer on
the Wall. If you choose to sing this or any other lyrics, please just make sure
you sing them with pride, in accordance to Utah officials recognition of the
fact that everyone needs their own lyrics if they choose to sing them and we all
need to be sensitive to that.And I was just a little surprised the
environmentalists are not out in full force on this. No mention on "our yell
ringing through the montains near and far" and the potential to offend those
who do not wish to see the serenity of mountains and the plants and wildlife
disturbed up there. I can't imagine another few months going by before we
have more revisions.
Even the color red is symbolic. Let's just have a vote and start over
What's the definition of marriage, or the song Utah Man, whatever you want
it to be. In other words, both terms are rendered meaningless.
Glad to hear they will not be "enforcing" the change and
"requiring" fans to sing the new version. What were they going to do,
send security guards to roam the stadium and eject fans caught singing the old
Does Pershing wake up in the morning and say, "Let's see, what can I do
to ninnify myself." Time to get a job and live in real life. Too much time
on her hands.
Why is there so much animosity against being more inclusive towards women? They
make up half the population and more than half of the student body. This
isn't about being PC, it's about being considerate. Is that such a
Anybody think it's strange that the best rugby team in the word hail from
New Zealand and call themselves The All Blacks? Do they need to change?
I like the change well enough. I don't think it matters all that much but
being more inclusive of the more than 50% of the student body who are women
@ PipesIn the 90's BYU changed it's fight song. The lyric
"stalwart men and true" was changed to "Loyal, strong, and
true."Nothing like abandoning tradition to conform with the
liberal views of the left. That describes BYU to the T..... well not really.
Things just change over time. One might say change is the only constant.
Two comments. First, I will be singing the original words regardless of what is
on the scoreboard and this time agree 100% which Chris B.Second, the
post about PAC 12 involvement are silly. This issue came out of the student
government and had nothing to do with the conference. The student government
voted to look at a change on their own without any pressure from anyone else
While I don't agree with their opinions, it came directly from the
Nothing like abandoning tradition to conform with the liberal views of the left.
That describes the University of Utah to the T!
In August of 1943 Army Air Corps pilot, Walter Stewart Utah BA'47
JD'49, a gangly 25-year-old, was at the controls of the B-24 that became
the lead plane, dubbed "Utah Man," in the famous low-level bombing raid
on Romania's Ploesti oil refineries in World War II. After the
commander's aircraft was shot down, Stewart took the lead, piloting
"Utah Man" through the vicious antiaircraft fire and dropped the first
bombs of the raid. Then Stewart nursed his four-engine B-24, bullet-riddled and
perilously low on fuel, back across Yugoslavia and over the Mediterranean to its
home base in Libya, landing safely after 1,200 miles and 14 hours in the air.The mission's cost was high. Of the 178 bombers carrying 1,700
airmen in the attack, 54 planes were lost; 310 crewmen were killed and 185 were
taken prisoner. The Ploesti raiders earned the most decorations in any single
wartime assault, an assault that was crippling to the Germans. Keep
the tradition and honor those who honored U. To the always loyal
Chris B and all my other friends on the hill from that great school rich in
tradition - Go true Utes!
Chris B., while I like to have fun saying the MUSS is becoming the WUSS with
changes to the fight song, as students honor the University of Miami borrowing
their hand symbol, and the mascot has become a red-tailed chicken; from a dye
hard fan of the team you refer to as TDS, I’m proud of you and others for
hanging in there with Utah Man.The Utah Man tradition is rich and I
believe honors a great American hero who named his plane Utah Man in honor of
his beloved University of Utah. I can’t help but think of the honor of
many who were proud to be a Utah Man but left their school to serve their
country and fellow men. . . . .
I am confident that Utah had to make this change to satisfy the PAC officials.
I know that Utah has lots of looney lefties, but this sounds more like left
coast political correctness. If I read this correctly, nothing will change at
the games, but when PAC members look at the version of the song that has been
approved, they will smile and think all is right with the world.
I'm a BYU fan, so I probably shouldn't enter this fray ;-) but I do
think the new version of the song is much more respectful of women.
"Are we still allowed to flash the Miami U sign . . .?"Christine:Go ahead; you y "fans" have never been shy about
displaying the Yale logo on your slogan t-shirts.
Those who can't sing should be offended that we have fight songs at
Why isn't anyone complaining about the Cleveland Indians? Or heaven forbid,
the Cleveland Browns that surely someone is going to take offense from.I'm just waiting for the wildlife lobby to come to the support of the
poor sea-fairing Dolphins who aren't getting their fair share cut of the
football team's merchandising sales.
pathetic. another reason i gave up my box a few years aago.
Are we still allowed to flash the Miami U sign when we sing the alternate
versions? I hear dictating what flavor of beer we're allowed to smuggle in
is next on the agenda.
I've looked for a comment board theme where I could agree with Chris B.
Today is that day. I agree with you Chris. (feels good to say that).This just seems so silly. Perhaps we should suggest a change to "Rise and
Shout" because there may be a vocally-challenged wheelchair-bound fan who
could become offended. My guess is that most wheelchair-bound readers just
rolled their eyes at that one. I'm not sure where this will end, but its
quite silly. Not sure how it gathered so much press in the first place. Fight
songs weren't written to make sense or to be 'accurate' or to be
kind to the opponent. They are what they are. A fight song meant to stir the
crowd of fans. Let's just leave it at that, please.
This is truely a sad day for the University of Utah. What else will the U of U
administration find offensive? This is a prime example of where the inmates are
running the asylum. I feel sorry for the poor U fans.
The University knows exactly what they're doing. Let people sing it how
they want, but it will be the new words on the video boards. Over time, new
students learning the song will be singing the official version, and older fans
will cling to the old version. I think you'll be surprised how soon the
majority of the crowd will be singing the new version. Honestly, I think many
of the fans now don't care that much and will just go along with the
This is ridiculous. More PC nonsense. Maybe change the wording to "Utah
Woman" and I am betting all would be well with the PC crowd after all we are
fighting Obama's phony war on women.... right? I am surpried the U gets to
keep the Ute name at all... after all even the mention of the name Ute is
degrading ...right? Perhaps a better mascot name would be the "Red
Persons". Have to run that one through the PC checker first however to make
sure no one is offended. Does RED offend someone? Probably. Mitt was right - a
whimmpy nation of victims thanks to Barack Obama.
To be true most fans do not know most of the words to this song, so even with
the changes it wont matter.
Only the weak bow to the gods of political correctness.
Our family will be singing "loud and proud" the original UTAH MAN! I have to say, I think all this publicity and hub bub is the best thing to
happen to our fight song in a long time! I predict lots of people will actually
be memorizing ALL the lyrics to the original now instead of just the chorus! GO
Another silly liberal victory forcing the University to bow to the alter of
meaningless symbolism over substance.
I'm sick of everyone's obsession with being politically correct all
the time. Look at the effect that it is having on tradition and sports lately...
The Redskins can't be the Redskins, coeds can't be coeds, etc. You
can't please everyone. We might as well take the word "God" out of
the Pledge-of-Allegiance while we're at it. We all know certain groups have
been complaining about that one for years. Where does it end??!
If the previous version was good enough for the Mormon Tabernacle Choir,
it'll always be good enough for this Utah Man.
I guess the world is kinder and gentler now. Whatever.
This is the dumbest thing that has happened. Dear University of Utah people.
Y'all got problems. Sincerely a recent Utah Alum.
Blah.It will be interesting to hear how many people still will SHOUT
the old lyrics at games.
Do the altered verses mention anything about the PAC 12? If not I'm sure
Chris B will be very disappointed.
“We encourage you to sing – loudly and with pride – whichever
version resonates with youOh, we will.Pershing and
fellow PC police were never going to change anything - we were always going to
sing the one and only version, regardless of what he said.Goooo UTES