Utah Jazz notebook: Clarification on 2nd-round trade; Raul Neto update

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  • oldschool Farmington, UT
    July 4, 2014 12:17 a.m.

    Nobody knows how good drafted players might be. Four factors come into play: 1) natural talent (physical ability), 2) a player's attitude and emotional health, 3) a player's willingness to learn and to work hard, and 4) luck, such as whether the player ends up on a team that gives him minutes and good instruction and influences. The later a player is drafted, the less likely he will become an impact player. So I've learned not to agonize over second round draft picks. If I see a guy who hustles like mad, rebounds well, works hard, shares the ball, shoots the lights out and seems to be a good citizen, I want the Jazz to draft him. Otherwise, it's mostly a crap shoot. So far I like what I see of Exum and Hood but certainly don't bemoan the fact that Stokes is going elsewhere. I also know the Jazz need better defenders and better team defense, and when Evans and Gobert played together I saw a team that was disrupting the opponents' offense. So I hate to lose those young guys before they have a chance to show us their potential.

  • QDiesel SLC, UT
    July 2, 2014 4:26 p.m.

    The Boston or Toronto pick is still not good enough for me. This is a deep draft and the Jazz had the 5th pick of the 2nd round in a deep draft and the guy they drafted and traded was supposed to be a 1st round pick and had slipped to the 2nd round. The Jazz need more big men, Favors is the only good one they have! I'm not sold on Kanter or Goebert and Evans is awful. NBA teams can carry 15 players on their roster and they could of put him in the D League for awhile. The Jazz dropped the ball here. They have had good luck in the 2nd round as well and could of had a cheap big man!

  • TerryHaimes Sturgis, MS
    July 1, 2014 1:18 p.m.

    I think the Jazz are already sick of the Trey Burkes deal but like with Corbin they plan to play it out. I was hoping Neto would come in but it is probably for the best that he spend another year in Europe.

    The second round trade still doesn't make sense unless you are doing a favor for somebody.

    I still can't believe that the Jazz are going to try to get Marvin back. Jefferson would make a little sense.

  • JD Las Vegas, NV
    June 30, 2014 7:39 p.m.

    I was so excited as we got closer to the 35th pick when Cleanthony Early was still available at the 34th pick, he would have been a steal, and I think he would have fit into the Jazz plans. That would have been three first round type players who would have fallen to the Jazz. Early is going to be a player in the league. I think the Jazz should have tried to trade picks with New York.

  • myvision7 Golden, CO
    June 30, 2014 10:24 a.m.

    Couldn't disagree more with BioPowertrain. Assuming they are able to keep Hayward they will then have 10 guys under contract (hopefully Lucas gets cut and goes down to 9). How many guys can they play plus they still need to fill out a couple spots in free-agency. For the Jazz young guys to get better they need some veteran examples to learn from. The too-young argument holds a lot of water. If you didn't notice two of the oldest teams in the NBA were in the finals. If they keep staying too young then all they will ever be is full of potential.

  • JonA Ogden, UT
    June 30, 2014 10:05 a.m.

    BioPowertrain, I agree with you that trading the second rounder was lame. I actually wanted them to draft Jordan Clarkson right there who went instead to the Lakers. He could be one of the steals of the second round. I disagree however with the Jazz blowing the other two picks. I have watched tape on Exum & he seems like a star in the making. Hood can straight up shoot the lights out and will really help open the offense up. There's no such thing as a prove star in the draft; we never know how good they'll be for sure until they get NBA minutes. But Exum was a calculated risk/choice that the Jazz simply couldn't pass on. He had the best star-potential out of anyone available to them at five and you have to go with that even if there's some unknowns. And maybe it turns out he's not a star, but that's the risk/gamble I'm ok with the Jazz taking.

  • BioPowertrain Detroit, MI
    June 29, 2014 9:55 a.m.

    I'll stay in the uproar crowd thank you. What a monumentally unprofessional decision to trade away Stokes. It's extremely rare to find a good offensive rebounder who can make shots but prefers to create opportunities for his 4 gunner teammates -- for example, Ben Wallace or Dennis Rodman, two such players drafted after the 1st round. Especially in a strong body akin to Karl Malone's, and triple especially when this team cannot succeed without building through the draft and everyone's been saying for the past 18 months how deep this draft is.

    I don't buy the 3 rookies argument either. The entire league is young = most players are inexperienced these days = that argument doesn't hold too much water. Also, 2nd round contracts are cheap & don't tie you up for years. So here's what really happened: we turned the 5th, 23rd and 35th picks in the deepest draft in at least 15 years into an 18-year-old, full of star potential, but with zero proven ability; a wing who may become a good role player; and a later 2nd round pick in a weaker draft two years from now. I'm not into hype. The Jazz blew it.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    June 29, 2014 9:31 a.m.

    I don't think bringing in Tomic or Neto makes much sense, The Jazz already have a 7 footer they are trying to develop and having 3 PGs all in their first 2 years is a little excessive. I would try and trade both of them, use them to sweeten a deal or even to acquire future picks.

    I could see the Jazz trading Tomic or Neto for a vet from a team trying to clear cap and in return getting a 1st round pick.

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    June 29, 2014 6:21 a.m.

    Thanks for the update on Raul and Ante. I'm guessing that Tomic is going to make a decision on the NBA by next spring or early summer, since his current contract is up in the summer of 2015. He will be 28 then. He was named for the second straight year to the EuroLeague's first team and won two league MVPs of the month awards last season.

    Good to see that Neto and Gobert got together in Utah recently and enjoyed something that was probably a special experience for Raul. I'll root for the Brazilian team some this summer. Hopefully, I can find some live action on the internet. I'm a little disappointed, though, since I was hoping to see both Exum and Neto in the summer league games. I hope the Jazz hold on to Raul. What seems like an overloaded backcourt now might easily swing the other way in a couple of years.