I don't understand why the city counsel would follow the same offensive
choice of words that will surely end Burbank's rule and authority. I
don't know what SLCPDs track record is like in the past( other than this)
because people don't focus on positive( same with me) but they will always
notice negative trash talk like... "Educate the Public" ( I did) they
have a long... long..... processes ahead of them with words like that because
that choice of words is enough for my self and my entire family , as well as
every Dog Person that i know in this state to show up to every rally that is
held in protest of BAD POLICY. That policy will change, the public are not the
ones that need to be educated. we can start with having them be mail delivery
first, then after that UPS, after that a Missionary and then maybe after that
they can handle being a Cop and seeing a Doggy. I don't think they will get
away with to muck now and maybe a little respect will start to be shown.
The commenters who think firing Officer Olsen is too severe are wrong. I would
not be surprised if they are cops. Yes Officer Olsen's job is worth more
than a dog's life. TO HIM. Maybe he should have considered that when he
chose to open fire, instead of backing up. Carelessness with a gun is not
something to be ignored. Where did his missing bullet go? There was a missing
child right? Yet he fired anyway. He needs to go. I think if he had any honor,
it is a choice he would have already made. Then after shooting Geist, he took
off. Is this the man SLC wants protecting them. I wouldn't. I would
rather have no cops than a force made up of men like him.
It appears the parents of this missing child got immediate attention? The
child's home wasn't even searched properly, and the cops are all over
SLC breaking our constitutional rights against unlawful searches. How many times
a year does this child go missing? I never got such good treatment by the
police. When my house was burglarized, and I asked them to check for
fingerprints, I was told they only do that in the movies. What if Officer Olsen
had encountered a mentally handicapped or angry adult. Would he have shot them
in the head?
RSL What you seem to forget along with other people, is that WE ARE ANIMALS
too...Stop downgrading another living thing because you only have two legs.My pets are family members.
In this article I saw no apologies from city officials in the police department
or city council. Of course the police are protecting the rights of the officer.
Too bad there’s no one to protect the rights of the dog. Why did the
tall officer with the sun glasses, smug look on his face, head tilted, and hand
on his hip feel it necessary to lecture the guy on probable cause as related to
the killing of the dog? He also sounded uncomfortable answering the guy’s
questions about the trigger happy cop, and had to gain control by requiring the
homeowner to state his name, address, and phone number. Seems that wasn’t
important till the guy started to ask questions.It just irritates me to
see cops get off with no consequences for mistakes, poor judgment, or abusive
behavior. This just reinforces, and bolsters their belief that they can do
whatever they want and will be protected by the “Blue Code”.And the city council, knowing that the citizens of their community aren't
knowledgeable, requests the police department to “educate” the
public. They should know to lockup their dog if a child is missing.
Reading the other comments makes one wonder how the cop got a shot off with all
the witnesses crammed into the yard to second guess him. 15 seconds of watching
the owner on the news tells you why he says a dog was his best friend.
So the kid was found at his home................... so why in the world
didn't the cops look there first??
Flashback: I believe you too do not have all the facts. It does not show the
ignorance of anyone to think the "the cops were sloppy, disorganized and had
an unprofessional search plan." a well thought out plan could have prevented
this event! If as you say the child was found safe in the house perhaps that is
where the police should have started again with the parents. And what was the
reason the officer felt so strongly that the child was in that backyard. This
from what I understand was a three year old. Could he have scaled the fence,
open the gate? Was his favorite toy or blanket in the backyard? What was
the urgency to enter a backyard where there is such a large dog? Had the officer
sized up the situation first he would have known there was a dog in the backyard
and again unless the was strong evidence that would indicate that the child was
in that backyard he could have waited. I also feel it was quite cowardice
for the officer to not still be on scene when the homeowner arrived home. The
owner deserves more than an apology.
The police officer is totally wrong. That dog was doing nothing more than
defending his home.The police officer should have backed out. The police
should have remained outside the gate, called the owner to come home and look in
the back yard for the child. It was unnecessary to fireseveral shots. If
the child were back in the yard the officer could have killed the child as
well. As for Jina and RSL your comments show that you have truly never
owned a pet nor loved or received the unconditional love from one.. Pets are
part of the family. And for you to say it is "just a dog" truly just
shows how insensitive you are. Perhaps you think of dogs as more of business as
in breeding and selling. Or perhaps your culture is more into consumption.
That police officer should receive consequences if not be fired. He was too
impulsive. Again he came into the dogs yard. The DOG DID NOT GET OUT OF THE YARD
AND GO AFTER HIM!
Allright, 2 bits, let's say it's detemined he simply made an honest
mistake entering the backyard and was going to be bitten. He shoots the animal
in self-defense. What's appropriate? Maybe a sympathy card to the owner and
a gift card for at Outback or something? There has to be some consequence and
some compensation for a dog owner that did nothing wrong, yet had to bury a dog
with a hole in its head.
The pre-judging from the cop-haters is amazing. They don't even know any
details yet... and they have him convicted and fired!They make it
sound like it was his intent to shoot the dog, or "Doing what he wants
to". I doubt any cop would shoot a dog just because he wants to.
They are actually pretty good at getting out of VERY tense situations without
using their gun. We don't know the details, but I assume he
was in the back yard doing his search when the dog discovered him and was
alarmed at a stranger on his property (totally understandable, that's what
dogs do, that's why we use them for guard-dogs).If the dog was
between him and his exit, or if it was charging and he didn't think he
could reach the exit before it was on him... he was probably out of good
options.Let's not pre-judge. Prejudice is such an ugly thing.
Lets wait until we know the details and why the officer thought he
couldn't just back away.I'm pretty sure if he thought he
could safely back away... he would.
no Taser....no pepper spray..no real situation awareness..wowlets not
forget the unfit parents here either...wow , wowwhat made this cop think
it wasn't gonna be a problem if he invaded this dogs turf...hmmmm....big dog , big fence ,..hmmm....ill be ok and if not ill t.martin this
dogjust cut the check, your wrong...and you wonder why people from
other states frown up at Utahs inbred way of thinkingeven some of yall
comments are crazy ...break the cycle...
I find this behavior disturbing as I am watching my country turn into a police
state. Officer Olsen should be in jail. Too severe? Ok,
let's consider this, let's say the dog owner takes a gun out to the
back yard and shoots his own dog for displaying aggressive behavior. He would be
arrested on the spot. So, what is the equal justice for Officer Olsen? Felony
charges for a list of offenses, including trespass, illegal search, discharging
a firearm in a residential neighborhood, public endangerment, and obstruction of
justice by leaving the scene. Olsen should be banned for life from
serving in Law Enforcement. I seem to remember Michael Vick who killed his own
dog and got 13 months in jail.
Thank goodness for clear thinking, rational cops. Sad to see that some cops who
react rather than think still slip through the cracks and are allowed to join
Flashback:So the dog and his owner are just out of luck, eh?
"Sorry, sir; even though your dog was confined to your backyard minding its
own business, I had to blow its brains out. There was a kid missing somewhere.
Oops."Was the dog lying hidden, ready to pounce? If the cop
entered the backyard with caution and was viciously attacked by surprise, then
we have a dilemma, don't we? How likely does that seem? What's
juvenile and absurd is the idea that this officer surveyed the situation, sized
up his options, entered the backyard and ended up with no other option than to
draw his gun and shoot.I would hope that police are trained to
evaluate their surroundings and not put themselves into confrontations with
possibly unfriendly or territorial animals unless they have immediate probably
cause. "A kid was missing in the vicinity" doesn't cut it unless
there was some other factor that put that home in question.
The "it's just a dog" comments couldn't be more wrong-headed.
We're not talking about an human life versus a dog's life, in which
case almost everyone would agree the human life takes precedence. If it's a
guy's career versus a dog's life, then you look at the circumstances.
It doesn't sound like this officer had any compelling reason to fire on the
dog. The just result would be that this guy finds a new career and is
successfully sued for a lot of money by the dog's owner.
I have yet to see a cogent answer to the question "Why didn't you
simply just back away?"
An apology would of Been nice
The officer showed callous and brutal disregard for the rights of the dog's
owner. He had many options to search the area without killing the dog, not least
of which was looking in from outside the fence. If the fence was too high, it
might have been a clue that the child he was seeking would not have been able to
enter. Even if he felt compelled to enter, calling animal control to restrain
the dog or deploying pepper spray were options. But in an astonishing lack of
resourcefulness and in brutal and spiteful contempt for the owner (and for the
poor pet dog) he killed the dog instead. Worse, it turns out the child never
left the house, indicating a sloppy, disorganized and unprofessional search
plan. This officer should be fired. He has poor judgment and is manifestly
unfit. If the department fails to dismiss him, then they clearly lack a sense of
public accountability or standards of professional responsibility. A whitewash
job won't be acceptable.The department needs to settle with the
owner fairly and quickly. Hiding behind trite claims that the act was
"legal" completely fails to recognize it was wrongful.
RSL and Gina,The fact that it was "just a dog" does not
matter. We live in a country where we have agreed as a society on a set of
rules. That set of rules is the constitution. The constitution protects us from
others, be it a LEO or anyone else from entering onto your property and/or
destroying that property. Had it been anyone else there would be legal action.
Once again, it doesn't matter that it was a dog. This officer broke the law
and needs to be accountable.
I think that we need to find a middle ground between asking for the officer to
be fired and openly shooting dogs. The officer did not just do whatever he
wanted. He did what he felt was needful. Shooting the dog is maybe a decision he
regrets, but it is hard to ask for the guy to be fired for shooting a dog. It is
just a dog. It is just a dog.
Fire the cop, he needs to be made an example of. Cops can't just do
whatever they want.
It is sad that this happened, but it is funny how these days dogs are like
family members. We need to remember that animals are not humans but people seem
to forget. There is no doubt that the police need to fix what caused
this shooting, but it is not worth the police officer losing his job. His job is
worth more than one dog's life.
So a non verbal three year old might have gotten into a yard with a dog that was
too terrifying for a cop? And how would that same kid have opened the gate
latch, two feet above his head? Maybe the dog was the perp and dragged the kid
into the yard after it opened the gate with its teeth. Yeah, that's it,
the dog was the perp.
The police officer was totally wrong. You can't march into someone's
back yard and say oops I shot your dog. The cop needs to be fired.