Dick Harmon: Here's a primer for BYU football media day Monday

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  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    June 24, 2014 1:15 a.m.

    @ BlueHusky

    Weak excuses. Utah's offense has been in turmoil too; much more so than BYU's has been in. Also, the FG in 2012 that was missed would have only put it into OT. far from a guaranteed win for the Cougs.

    But as it stands. It has been 1,669 days. since BYU last beat Utah.

    Also, FWIW Utah qualified for, and won, the Sun Bowl as a member of the PAC-12. Sun Belt takes PAC-12 #4, while the Fight Hunger Bowl takes PAC-12 #6.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 23, 2014 9:39 p.m.

    1 of 3 reasons Oregon not listed as a hop PAC-12 team. An honest mistake or you know they will nenes schedule BYU or you don,t think they area top team.
    You do know that in the three years BYU has been an independent they have a scheduled game against 6 PA-12 teams none of which are on your top teams list. (Washingtonwas a bowl game.))
    In the next 8 years BYU has 12 games scheduled against these top teams And 4against those not on your top list. That,s 1.5 games per year against the team you hold so dear.
    Good luck convincing knowledgeable fans that is a p5 type schedule.

    Were you satisfied media addressed your 3 points? By far the most disappointing media day to date.

  • Mister J Salt Lake City, UT
    June 23, 2014 2:59 p.m.

    to BlueHusky

    Does 4 in a row count as dominance? What about 8 of 11?

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    June 23, 2014 11:01 a.m.

    Nice try Trolls. Lets see Utah get bowl eligible for those PAC 12 bottom feeder bowls like Fight Hunger (Washington v BYU) before you spend anymore time knee-jerking against any mention of BYU. Yes, Utah squeaked out three wins against BYU. You lucked into a situation where BYU's offenses were in a state of turmoil with Heaps then Nelson. Even then you won by blocking a last second field goal and lucking out on a missed field goal. Had those gone in, the 0-4 would have been 2-2.

    That, my friends is not dominance. It is luck.

    Now, what is Utah's record against Washington? Hmmm. Zero wins. All time. That is dominance.

    See, that's the difference. As a Husky, I've seen Oregon beat the Dawgs 10 straight years. Sadly, that too is dominance. Lucking out 2 of 4 games is not dominance. It is, in fact, just the breaks of the game. Like Portugal getting a last-second goal in stoppage time.

  • CougOrUte..Naah Nibley, UT
    June 23, 2014 10:56 a.m.

    BYU not scheduling Utah any more? That is the best idea I have heard this morning. BYU would get far better exposure and national attention by beating the better teams in the PAC10+2 than beating the teams that reside in the lower half of the conference. The problem though is actually winning those games. The loss to Washington in the bowl game was huge, that really set you back as far as prestige. But losing to Utah was even bigger. I am not sure that losing to a upper level PAC10+2 team is better than losing to a bottom dwelling Utah. I think it is a great idea, play the upper level PAC10+2 team, put a team on the field that can compete and/or even win, that is a lot smarter than playing Utah on a consistent basis. However, Utah hasn't become competitive in PAC10+2 in 3 seasons, can BYU do it in 1 or 2?

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    June 23, 2014 8:06 a.m.

    Bluto is right Utah needs us way more then we need them. Anyone will line up to play us with a national brand and great teams and NFl players n'stuff.
    We don't need utah they need a good schedule not us.
    Byu really didn't commit anything wrong. The Ncaa just wan'ts to make us look bad but we didn't do anything wrong.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 23, 2014 7:59 a.m.

    Typically on byu's media day, Utah has a big announcement, just to take what little attention byu would get away from byu. Its not so much we're competing against byu(we own them on the field) but any time we get increase the profile of our program and do something that byu doesn't like, its good with me!

    I wonder what Utah's announcement will be today

  • Sandyclaws Salt Lake City, UT
    June 23, 2014 7:13 a.m.

    @Tomahawk Red

    "BYU is such a national brand that the ACC and SEC think they are nothing more than a MWC grade program. "

    Your comment is meaningless because of Utah's example. The Utes are in the PAC 12 and, judging by their performance so far, they are still nothing more than a MWC grade program.

    And at the end of nearly every season, BYU is ranked higher than Utah, so I'd have to say that BYU's chances are pretty good.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    June 22, 2014 11:49 p.m.

    Sandy, UT
    Here is hoping that BYU never schedules Utah again.

    BYU fans would much rather see games with prominent Pac teams with National Brands and Legacy, (just like BYU) and not their Conference Bottom-feeders.


    Sure, keep taking those 2 for 1s if they make you happy.


    BYU is such a national brand that the ACC and SEC think they are nothing more than a MWC grade program. And they are right.

    Enjoy that national brand.

    Ha ha ha.

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    June 22, 2014 9:50 p.m.

    panana-- I don't see that comment by Kyle as being "snippy" at all. It's what happened and I'm a BYU fan. I can't imagine how hard it is to keep comments measured in the high pressured situation following a game like that. Kyle's a good coach and man whether he ever works at BYU or not.

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    June 22, 2014 9:47 p.m.

    Can this BYU and Big 12 promo please stop? The Big 12 is not interested in BYU due to the fact that BYU does not bring enough to the table to make the conversation worthwhile. Same goes for the other major conferences. This is not news and only stirs up false hopes in BYU fans.

    Move on.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    June 22, 2014 7:48 p.m.

    DEW Cougars:

    Kyle will never come into the Cougars coaching system or athletic system. Those responsible for making the ultimate decision will remember his snippy comment after the game where the Ute fans flooding the field almost cost them the game, "we had to beat them 3 times in order to win".

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    June 22, 2014 5:00 p.m.

    @Aggie5 - don't worry, Kyle Whitingham will get fired either this or next year. Bronco will be demoted to keep his D"s job while Kyle take over HD at BYU! Sound good to me.

  • Taysom4Heisman Heber City, UT
    June 22, 2014 3:23 p.m.


    I actually read it on BYU's official website, and a person within the program said they do not anticipate major violations or major punishments. In fact, there is a chance the NCAA won't punish BYU at all and everything will be self-imposed. Don't trick yourself into thinking the death penalty (or anything close to it) is a possibility.


    Considering Bronco's contract is through 2016, he will last at least 3 years unless the program really went downhill or if Bronco was involved in covering up the violations. And neither of those are very likely. His job is very stable.

  • Aggie5 Kuna, ID
    June 22, 2014 2:34 p.m.

    Bronco won't last another 2 years. Poor outcomes, strange decisions on plays and lack of offense. And then the violations to boot. BYU will not except violations and keep a coach.

  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    June 22, 2014 2:12 p.m.

    Whose idea was it for BYU to go independent?

    If it was a success or failure who was responsible for this idea?

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    June 22, 2014 1:44 p.m.

    Utah-BYU, when it is played, does not belong in November. Sorry.

    November is for conferences positioning. Not nonconference exhibition games.

    BYU belongs in September or occasionally October on Utah's schedule.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    June 22, 2014 1:40 p.m.

    Here is hoping that BYU never schedules Utah again.

    BYU fans would much rather see games with prominent Pac teams with National Brands and Legacy, (just like BYU) and not their Conference Bottom-feeders.

    Seriously, UCLA, USC, Cal, ASU, Arizona, Stanford, Washington....versus....Utah?
    Let's get serious folks.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    June 22, 2014 12:41 p.m.

    Good questions. I hope these things are covered and answered. Some things we know from years past...the offensive line will be one of the best ever...the running attack will consist of 3 different plays all run into the middle of the line...quarterback play will be projected as improved unless you count passing...line backing will be reported as better with KVN's departure being ignored...we'll have the best group of receivers ever...the schedule is going to be really tough...oh, the offense will be creative and well designed...finally, half time will be used to make adjustments in the game plan so that we actually do better in the 3rd quarter.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    June 22, 2014 11:21 a.m.

    I look forward to hearing the answers to these questions in future articles. I might include a couple of follow-ups:

    1. What is on the table in negotiations to enter a major conference. I presume playing on Sunday is out. Are television rights, especially the right to rebroadcast home games on your own network, untouchable as well?

    2. Is Independence still a viable option in the current landscape of college sports or is it dependent on the P5 granting BYU the same type of status they give to Notre Dame?

    3. The worst kept secret in the NCAA is that many athletes receive "impermissible benefits" - often just to get by economically. What is BYU's position on increasing benefits to student athletes that pays the true cost of going to school?

    4. Will there be a long-term contract with Utah for the "rivalry game" or will it continue to be negotiated two or three years at a time with no game at all sometimes?

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 22, 2014 11:14 a.m.


    I believe the Nebraska announcement in 2/12 was when Nebraska announced they had scheduled four opening game opponents. As I recall they were: Florida Atlantic, BYU, Fresno State, and So. Alabama. (I believe their 2013 opening opponent (Wyoming) was already scheduled.) Almost a SEC schedule.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 22, 2014 10:40 a.m.

    ND, Army, and BYU will be the only 3 independent teams (this year? or next?)

    Therefore, all other teams are in a conference. For those teams out of conference games serve several purposes. Primarily: opportunity to prepare for conference; Also a chance to play a variety of teams not in conference. This allows for variety both in teams played and location.

    As members of the PAC-12, Utah is able to schedule three non conference games each year. This years schedule is perfect. The first three games are against non-conference foes. Idaho State should allow us to play many combinations of players and test our new offensive scheme. Fresno State - series is 5wins 4 losses for Utah and last played 15 years ago. Michigan - the big house and a true test! Then we're into conference - and what a November! Oregon in RES. Stanford away; Arizona in RES; and Colorado away.

    BYU? Perfect to play every 3 or 4 or 5 years in preseason. They are a great opponent for us to get ready for conference.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    June 22, 2014 6:20 a.m.

    "The violations were most likely pretty minor and won't cost us scholarships"


    Where did you read this? Cougarboard? Until the NCAA comes back with a verdict the penalty can range from a public slap on the wrist to the death penalty.

    If your a bYu recruit, it's just another reason to shy away from this program.

  • Taysom4Heisman Heber City, UT
    June 21, 2014 11:39 p.m.

    I'm looking for a couple things:

    1) An update on the investigation. The violations were most likely pretty minor and won't cost us scholarships, but who knows if recruits could be turned away by a possible punishment down the road? Hopefully BYU can end this once and for all on Monday. It can only help BYU to quickly get this thing out of the way.

    2) I can almost guarantee that BYU will announce a series with a big time program. Last year it was USC. If I remember correctly, Nebraska, Michigan, Stanford, and Wisconsin were all announced on a media day, some in 2011 and some in 2012. It may have been a different time of year that some were announced, but I remember USC last year for sure. There's a chance we hear more details on our Notre Dame series too.

    3) Anything about our relationship with the Big 12. And I don't want to hear "we want to be in the Big 12". I want to hear BYU's chances of making it in, or of getting a scheduling agreement.