The grand compromise: The search for a public lands resolution

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  • ElmoBaggins Escalante, UT
    June 23, 2014 11:55 a.m.

    Utah politicians have proven time and again they can not be trusted with public lands.All they want to do is sell off the mineral rights for their cronies...No Grand Bargain!Feds...don't do it!

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    June 23, 2014 8:28 a.m.

    Three years ago the feds spent $55,000,000 fighting fires in Utah alone. Send that bill the Gov Herbert. Once he'a pays it then they can discuss the purchase of Utah's public lands, I would assume the land would be worth trillions of dollars if they were appraised honestly.

  • chemimagineer Spanish Fork, UT
    June 22, 2014 11:59 p.m.

    There is no other solution to solving our debt problem and to achieve proper school funding than to regain ownership of the the State Enabling Act promises. Our resources are massive...on a scale of size that is hard to even fathom. Developed wisely, we could pay off the national debt and secure Utah's future at the same time...families could afford to pay off their houses, send their kids to college without going broke and live a higher standard of living. I would recommend setting up a fund to pay the citizens like Alaska's permanent fund.

    The other piece to this is that ever large development project must become literally a game preserve like I was part of doing in the Alaskan oilfieds. Every single species increased in number while I was there...evey confirmed by Ducks Unlimited yearly counts. Hence, these lands while being developed by private companies will actually foster animal herd/population growth. So it is time to get our lands back and save our country.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    June 22, 2014 4:04 p.m.

    Just because we live by a mountain does not give us ownership of the mountain

    Too many people here have witnessed the hands of their own public officials, to have comfort with state ownership.

    For us to see the current state lands run without a hitch would give us a basic level of confidence, til then hands off the federal lands

  • Trainman Ivins, UT
    June 22, 2014 3:17 p.m.

    The term "land swap" always scares me. The ones I have seen, the public is always the loser. I was born, raised and educated in Utah. I them worked 30+ years in the Washington DC suburbs. Every inch of land around the Chesapeake Bay is privately owned. You can't even walk through it to get to a beach. I worry that these land swaps would put more land in private hands, and thereby make it inaccessible the the public. Lets leave it alone.

  • liberal larry salt lake City, utah
    June 22, 2014 12:22 p.m.

    I wish that people would quit saying that politicians want federal lands for the people of Utah.

    Utah wants federal holdings so that it can sell them to the highest bidder, and PRIVATIZE what are now public lands.

    If you're complaining about access to Utah's wild federal lands, just wait until they are sold to private corporations, and you can kiss ANY access good bye!

  • JoCo Ute Grants Pass, OR
    June 22, 2014 11:07 a.m.

    re: ShaunMcC The title "Federal Lands" should be enough for you to understand that the lands in question are not "Utah lands." The land belongs to people in other states just as much as it does in Utah. There is not the slightest legal question. It's not your car. The federal government owns those lands just as clearly as you own your home, farm or ranch.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    June 22, 2014 10:36 a.m.

    Just what exactly is bishop talking about?

    The only problems or disputes that exist are those created by Bishop and his fellow repub politicians. They view these lands as opportunities to exploit for their own personal wealth gain.

    The rest of us? We have no problem the way things are. Maintain the standard quo.

    Remember this come election time. Just how disconnected is your representative from you? Is he listening to you or only listening to big oil execs?

  • Swiss Price, Utah
    June 22, 2014 10:31 a.m.

    yea, enjoy th national parks and monumnets they wiil always be Federal. Just don't get in trouble outside of them. Even in Nine Mile Canyon, Range Creek and the San Fafael swell cell coverage is spotty. The Sheriffs department is maintained by county property tax money. The Federal Government doesn't pay property taxes and PILT when the Senate allows it to be paid.
    So if you get in trouble be prepared.
    If you get answer on 911 hope you get the one in the county you are in and have your credit card handy. And don't forget nothing mechanical goes into Wilderness.

  • woolybruce Idaho Falls, ID
    June 22, 2014 10:09 a.m.

    The problem with Utah and Public Lands in Utah, is that Utahn's don't know anything about the Public lands they so despise. Go to any trailhead, National Park or not, the majority of license plates are NOT from Utah. Hiking, backpacking, Mnt bike riding ... I have talked with people from Europe, Colorado, Washington, Virginia ... Utah? not so much. A co-worked that has lived in the Wasatch Front for 15 years (hates Federal Government's management of Public Lands). He said, well if I take my kids to the Mountains I guess it will have to be to Island Park. Doesn't this guy look out to the east and see the Wasatch? A retired BLM worker from Kanab is now in the state legislature decrying BLM and Public lands. If he did such an incompetent job as a career employee of the BLM, shouldn't we take his Federally provide pension from him?

  • rawlshea1 salt lake city, UT
    June 22, 2014 8:29 a.m.

    The compromise which would work is to allow the Federal Government to have jurisdiction over the land within ten miles of the major rivers/streams, and the State to have everything else. This way you would protect the majority of the biodiversity of the State into the future and let the State exploit the balance.

  • ShaunMcC La Verkin, UT
    June 22, 2014 7:49 a.m.

    Just because there is a 2000 pound gorilla in the room doesn't mean it should have the final say. How much easier and better if these groups could get together as they are doing and work out solutions without the Federal government being involved. Utah lands should be managed by Utahns. Involving hundreds of people from other states and thousands of bureaucrats from other states is not the best way to solve our problems, protect our land and address our concerns. We wouldn't ask hundreds of accountants and lawyers to get under the hood and fix our car, would we?

  • JoCo Ute Grants Pass, OR
    June 21, 2014 10:51 p.m.

    Deseret News Headline. . . "search for Utah Public lands solution". What? The issue is FEDERAL public lands that belong to the citizens of New Jersey, Georgia, Iowa, Oregon and all other states, not Utah. Every single person in the United States is a stakeholder. Just because these exceptional lands are closer to the citizens of the state of Utah makes absolutely no difference.

    When Utah became a state a signed agreement designated which lands remained under Federal control and which transferred to the State of Utah. Now the Bishop and his fellow corporate raiders want to deny an agreement that the states founding fathers signed just to transfer control over to mining and oil interests. No Way!

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    June 21, 2014 9:55 p.m.

    Spent a week enjoying our national parks. Things are just fine as they are...

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2014 8:08 p.m.

    "... the delicate issue of federal lands oversight in Utah, and few would dispute the current system is a junker, rife with lawsuits, stalemates and uncertainty." What? The lawsuits are coming from Utah real estate and developer interests. Most of us think the status quo is quite fine, thank you.

  • JimmyJackJohnJones Jonestown, TX
    June 21, 2014 7:04 p.m.

    The problem with that analogy is that Bishop is not a mechanic, and has no understanding of the functioning of an automobile. So the initial premise fills me with horror. At least one of those people standing around must have a better idea about how to fix the car. Bishop's idea would be crush it and buy a new one, then deal with its unique problems later. Bishop with his head under the hood of a car conjures all kinds of unpleasant images.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    June 21, 2014 4:18 p.m.

    If Utah wants to get land from the federal government how does it intend to pay for the land it is getting?

  • FreedomFighter41 Provo, UT
    June 21, 2014 3:32 p.m.

    I say no compromise!

    Federal land stays with the Feds. Don't you dare budge on this Feds. No is no, utah must learn to deal with it.

    Public lands belong to the public, not to dirty polluters or real estate tycoons like Kenny Ivory.