Supreme Court won’t wade into fight over graduations in churches

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  • USU-Logan Logan, UT
    June 19, 2014 12:46 p.m.

    "There is also actual evidence that religions exist."

    Of course, and we need to separate church from state.

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    June 19, 2014 7:27 a.m.

    I wonder if there would be any problem with a graduation being held at the LDS conference center? As for exposure to religious or any other symbols, do people really want to claim that seeing a cross, or a depiction of Jesus, will have as bad of an effect on their children as listening to hours of some filthy rap music does?

  • techpubs Sioux City, IA
    June 18, 2014 5:54 a.m.

    There is also actual evidence that religions exist.
    And there are even scientists and other people who believe that there could be an alien species somewhere in the universe that is more intelligent than we are.

  • koseighty The Shire, UT
    June 17, 2014 10:39 p.m.

    The case was about more than venue. At the church, before and after the graduation ceremony, the church had tables and booths set up in the foyer. School district personnel manned the booths, handing out tracts and materials promoting the church and its programs. For the younger kids, coloring books were handed out pages promoting coming to Jesus, being saved by Jesus, etc.

    This was not a case about venue, but about active proselytizing by the school district for the church.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    June 17, 2014 8:50 p.m.

    I guess West High could no longer have their graduation ceremonies in the Salt Lake Tabernacle, huh, much to the pleasure and satisfaction of A Scientist. I think Symphony Hall is used now, anyway.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    June 17, 2014 8:23 p.m.

    So the thinking is that SCOTUS "draws the line at exposing children to religious symbols when they have no choice about it," but it is okay with sectarian prayers starting governmental meetings because people can leave if they like. Yes, and then after they've identified themselves as not "in the group," they will get an unbiased hearing before said governmental body. Right.

    @ techpubs

    Children are already exposed to "establishments of alcohol" every time their TVs are tuned to a sporting event.

    Also, there is actual evidence that beer exists.

  • techpubs Sioux City, IA
    June 17, 2014 12:39 p.m.

    In order to have a large enough venue for graduation ceremonies I suspect that School Districts are going to have to ask the public to accept an additional tax to build their own large facility for graduation.

    Since this was Milwaukee I had thought that they might have simply rented the Brewers Stadium and hoped that it was a nice day. However in view of the 7th District Courts statement that having it in a Church is an "establishment of religion" by the School District I quickly realized that due to the numerous signs for beer within the Stadium that it would put the school district in the position of creating an "establishment of alcoholism" among those who are too young to drink.

  • A Scientist Provo, UT
    June 17, 2014 12:04 p.m.

    Good decision.