Come on Carolyn:You should no better. As Fred states, public
schools must accept all students that live in their boundaries. Yes, when they
reach capacity, they can deny students from other boundaries.And
BTW, I've had my own children attend public, private and charter schools
and I know the advantages of each. My daughter won the lottery to enter a
charter, my son did not. My son also was asked to leave two private schools.
But they loved my teacher-pleasing daughter. The ONLY and I say only source of
education for my son was the traditional public school.
Carolyn,Really public schools limit their numbers? State law
requires open enrollment unless a building reaches capacity. Then yes they can
limit for that building. A school district however MUST provide a school for
every student that lives within its boundaries. It can't say sorry we are
full, thus the need for portable classrooms all over the Wasatch front. So Carolyn are you saying that EVERY charter school must take EVERY
student, including every special needs student regardless of what their
disability may be? Are you saying that a charter school can't set any
requirements for admission for its students? Are you saying that once a student
is admitted that a charter school must keep them regardless of their behavior?
Public school can limit their numbers and they do. They have caps and they stop
allowing students to enroll when those caps are reached and they change
boundaries and move students to another school. Charter schools
cannot require parent involvement, nor can they "remove" troubling
students. It is a common misperception that they can do these things, but they
Fred 44 is correct. Unless public schools can limit the number of students they
have via a lottery, can demand parental volunteer hours and removed troubling
students, the competition between them and charters is not a fair competition.
The great thing about these discussion boards is that you get throw out all
kinds of statements with no basis in facts and speak is if you have some kind of
knowledge or expertise when you have none. If a school has a
"bad" teacher, and the administrator does his job, it does not matter
what the association does, that teacher can and will be terminated. If you
think the state is filled with bad teachers, blame administrators not the
teachers association. As a public school teacher I am all for
competition as long as the rules are the same for both groups competing. Let my
public school create a charter, limit the number of students, kick out students
who didn't live up to the charter rules, you bet I will compete.
Don't however ask me to compete when you tie one hand behind my back and
allow my competition to use both hands. One last thought, how about
students and parents have some accountability for education?
Without a school voucher systems, students in very poor performing school
districts will not have the viable option of attending much better rated charter
schools. Competition breeds improvement. But the status quo school
system advocates do not want any competition. They want everything to stay as is
with many inner-city students stuck in inferior schools with inferior
teachers... all of whom are currently protected by their teachers' union,
no matter how terrible that teacher may be. Under the current system, it is all
but impossible to get rid or bad teachers. That is simply not justifiable or
fair to the students. If bad teachers have to improve or lose their
jobs, many will improve. And the ones who won't improve should lose their
jobs. No parent in the world wants their child taught by bad teachers, as is
currently often happening. In some cases, unions are beneficial. In
this case, they are truly a hindrance to betterment and should acquiesce.
How sad for the extreme Left when the courts rule against them...Teacher seniority has nothing to do with lower class size, funding, etc. It
is all about protecting bad teachers from discipine and termination. There a
far too many teachers protected by these seniority laws that have no business
being near our kids. Teachers work for the parents. The state does
not own our kids because they are in public school. It is time for the school
administrations and the teachers unions to remember these facts and begin being
part of the solution....