BYU football recruiting in full swing at midway point of Cougars' summer camps

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  • Tenn12 Orem, UT
    June 17, 2014 3:27 p.m.

    We have experienced and heard the same things with Poppinga. It's disappointing.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    June 17, 2014 12:02 p.m.

    BYU took a huge step backwards in the eyes of many of the top recruits locally when they began telling top recruits they should feel privileged to be a preferred walk on, or to be patient in waiting for an offer to come from the Y when everyone else was already offering scholarships. Another blow to the Cougars recruiting was when they fired Doman and put Poppinga in charge of the local recruiting.
    He may have been a decent player, but really isn't dialed in when evaluating talent or in relating to high school recruits.
    I've heard numerous top LDS recruits dismiss BYU entirely because of poppinga's attitude and BYU will continue to lose kids who normally would've played there to USU and other schools who never used to win recruiting battles with the Y.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 16, 2014 11:09 p.m.

    @panamadesnews and others.


    I believe I was wrong in my previous post. Utah lost 1 basketball scholarship for 3 years which is equivalent to 6+ football scholarships. (Basketball 13 available; football 85 available)

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 16, 2014 10:51 p.m.


    Weeks ago it was rumored that BYU had made its recommendation and it was rejected by the NCAA. (I stress that was a rumor!) However, when was the last time you saw or heard by any media any reference to this matter. (Two weeks ago Mr. Harmon made the in-depth observation that we may hear from the NCAA this week "or not". Don't you find it a little strange no coverage for two weeks?
    First issue IMO is the truth of what happened and when. But if there are any sanctions involving merely the suspension of a few players for a game or two that will be essentially nothing for BYU. (BYU's second string can win 6 games with this years schedule.) And if any of the alleged activities did occur sanctions could/should be much more severe (again IMO). Compare the alleged violation's to the U's basketball's and Utah lost 3 scholarships for 3 years. (3 basketball scholarships is like 8 football as a %) I would think loss of scholarships/as or ban of post season play would be possibilities if validated.

  • 32843 PROVO, UT
    June 16, 2014 8:37 p.m.


    "There are plenty of kids on that roster that were offered because of name alone and they didn't go through the so called "process."

    Who, for example? I'm sure you'll be able to offer a few names of those kids who were offered "because of name alone".

    "There are plenty of locally talented kids who wanted to attend byu but because of poor evaluation went elsewhere with great success."

    Who, for example? I'm sure you can provide a few names of "locally talented kids who wanted to attend BYU but because of poor evaluation went elsewhere with great success".

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 16, 2014 5:21 p.m.

    JoCo Ute:

    Rivals ranked Utah's 2014 recruiting class at #67, and the cougs at #71.

    Utah earned the #44 recruiting class in 2013 (not 2014), but during that year, the cougs again finished with the 71st-ranked class; not the 62nd-ranked class.

    The last time the cougs' recruiting class ranked #62, the Utes ranked #28. But that was back in 2012.

  • JoCo Ute Grants Pass, OR
    June 16, 2014 4:29 p.m.

    Don't know where Ufan got his 2014 rankings but the actual 2014 Recruiting team rankings for BYU and Utah:

    Rivals; Utah # 44 and BYU # 62
    Scout; Utah # 35 and BYU # 53

    I am more than willing to admit that these number don't mean all that much. Both Utah and BYU come up with a lot of good players that the so called experts don't rank very high.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    June 16, 2014 4:23 p.m.

    Who Am I Sir?: We will know when the NCAA lets BYU know, and that will be when the investigation is concluded and BYU makes its recommendations for self policing to the NCAA. Probably no earlier than that.

  • WA_Alum&Dad Marysville, WA
    June 16, 2014 4:12 p.m.

    Yet another article where bored kids on the hill don't have anything better to do than obsess on all things BYU. Sigh.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    June 16, 2014 10:36 a.m.

    Please tell me Martzen did not just use the word "anyways'.

  • Tenn12 Orem, UT
    June 16, 2014 9:35 a.m.

    What a bunch of mumbo jumbo. There are plenty of kids on that roster that were offered because of name alone and they didn't go through the so called "process." There are plenty of locally talented kids who wanted to attend byu but because of poor evaluation went elsewhere with great success. And it's plain silly to be talking about how they will offer a kid who may not be as good athletically because he can fit in to a scheme. Wait a second, why can't the coaches do their jobs and COACH those more athletic kids to play within the scheme?

  • Ufan Salt Lake City, UT
    June 16, 2014 7:44 a.m.


    2014 recruiting rankings:

    #62 BYU
    #64 Utah

    #67 Utah
    #71 BYU

    It's way to early to even try to predict the 2015 rankings.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 16, 2014 7:13 a.m.

    The article states, "It's no secret that BYU is very different with regard to social standards and its recruiting philosophy subsequently needs to be different as a result" Therefore,it is refreshing to see BYU "allow the recruits themselves to evaluate the football program and school in general."

    I would think a recruit would want to know:
    ... about the director of football relations replacement. Coach Mendenhall said, "..(he was) a true friend and professional . Ohe was) the epitome of BYU football" And the "retirement" announcement said "He will certainly be missed." Will his replacement continue, or even expand, the open door (front and back) policy of the past especially in a safe house. (The access to a position so elevated as the DofFO was truly unique.)

    ...Will I have the same uplifting encounters with my bishop as Vai Sikahema described on 6/1? How frequently will he be available for such beneficial meetings? (The more.. the better."

    ...A player always needs more socks, etc. (especially the etc.)

    ...The article says, "We have more filters than any school in the nation; What does that mean?

    ...When will we know the NCAA's position on alleged infractions?

  • IQ92 hi, UT
    June 15, 2014 10:45 p.m.

    According to Rivals, BYU recruiting this year iranks 62nd--about where they average year over year.

  • Darren Rowe Heber City, UT
    June 15, 2014 10:44 p.m.

    @JoCo Ute

    Yes, the utes would be happy to sign Gustin. The problem is, that chance is extremely small. Here is a list of the schools who have offered him, according to ESPN.

    North Carolina
    Utah St.
    Washington St.

    My prediction is Gustin will want to go to a school who can actually win most of their games, which would throw Cal, Hawaii, Illinois, Purdue, UNLV, Utah, Wash. St, and Wyoming out the window. My money is on USC or Wisconsin, or some other big time school that comes along.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 15, 2014 10:36 p.m.

    They would like playing Texas, Nebraska, and in bowl games

  • JoCo Ute Grants Pass, OR
    June 15, 2014 10:18 p.m.

    Too bad BYU hasn't extended offers to Gustin and Empey. They decided "Not to go through BYU's process". I'm sure the U will be glad to sign them. They'd probably like to play in the PAC-12 instead of for an Independent anyway.