Does firing bad teachers make it harder to find good ones?

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  • John C. C. Payson, UT
    June 18, 2014 6:23 p.m.

    The California judge really over-reacted. Some states have given in too much to teachers' unions. It might really be too hard to fire bad teachers in some states (but certainly not in Utah). If the judge was right about the children suffering he could have just changed the balance during contract negotiations so teachers don't have excessive due process like they do in some districts in New York. To deny any tenure at all is just ridiculous. If teachers were allowed to pick their assignments based on seniority, then more pay should be required to attract better teachers to poor neighborhoods.

    If you want to help poor children, support their teachers. Quit attacking them.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 17, 2014 9:28 p.m.

    In my experience, I have found very few bad teachers.

    Most are there doing a good job of teaching.

    Firing should occur further up the ladder.

  • The Wraith Kaysville, UT
    June 13, 2014 7:09 p.m.

    No but treating teachers like garbage, paying them like garbage, and then expecting them to provide other worldly experiences for your kids does make it harder to attract good teachers. This is a very simple equation - if you want to attract great people into teaching make the pay worth the effort.

  • intrinsicrewards Salem, VA
    June 13, 2014 6:34 p.m.

    The main problem is not the teachers. Teachers today are far better qualified and motivated to perform than they have been over the past 50 years. The problem belongs at home. Broken families, depressed students, video game addictions, drug addictions, entitlement attitudes, bullying, and a sexual atmosphere on overdrive reins supreme in most schools today. Fewer and fewer students are motivated and few take responsibility for failure let alone are willing to change attitude and learning behaviors or lack thereof..many simply do not care as evidenced by not keeping up with bringing the pencil back to class given them the day previous...When Johnny doesn't learn all fingers point to the poor teachers who are on the front lines doing their best everyday.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 13, 2014 6:23 p.m.

    Great teachers are treasures, and good teachers are, well, good.
    Bad teachers are a cancer that must be eliminated.

    Looking for solutions to our education problems from an op-ed in the New York Times, written by e Berkeley professor should only tell us what not to do. Their prescriptions for education reform are what have destroyed once great systems and ended up in the dire straits we are in today.

  • Orem Parent Orem, UT
    June 13, 2014 6:03 p.m.

    Seriously. It isn't like there is a long line of people waiting to be belittled, treated like garbage, blamed for every problem in society, and told they are lazy for only working 9 months out of the year.

    Who would take that on?