"Obama will never find anything wrong with the I.R.S. the V.A., Benghazi,
Fast and Furious, or illegals crossing the borders. He tells us that Bush
created all of our problems. "****Somewhere over the rainbow
blue birds fly and there's a land that we long for once in a lullaby.****
IMO it shows at least one small group of Americans are tired of career
politicians and Incumbents... and is willing to send them home and elect
political novices in their place.Democrats TALK about getting rid of
Incumbents (when they are mad at Government and we have a Republican
administration) but they are really hoping that means get rid or Republicans.
Republicans do the same thing (talk about unelecting incumbents when they are
disapointed with government, but really they hope it just means DEMOCRAT
incumbents). Other (less affiliated people) just want to get rid of ALL career
politicians and incumbents who spend and tax like drunk sailors (regardless of
the letter by their name).
Sven,I know that's what you would like it to mean and it's
the spin Laura Ingraham et al are giving it, but it's pure wishful
thinking. It's ONE congressional district. Democrats are delighted
they're facing Brat rather than Cantor and I wouldn't doubt they
padded the vote in the open primary--as they openly threatened to do. I think
you should hold off on your celebration until after November.I'm very happy California Republicans didn't nominate the rapid
anti-immigration reform candidate. Instead we nominated someone who stands a
chance of defeating Jerry Brown.
" America is tired of the left-wing rhetoric. America is tired of spending
money for programs that are not Constitutionally mandated."I
finally get something about MR. He apparently doesn't understand the
difference between something being mandated and being legal, even if not
mandated. Here's another gem of delusion. " Let them tell
us that they will tax the producers so that non-producers can sit back and do
nothing." The message here is that aid recipients are not
working poor, but sit on your back ends do nothings. As long as
you're waxing fantastical you might as well keep going. "Let them tell
us that everything is fine at the IRS, at the V.A., at the borders"IRS..nothing found, VA..everyone thinks and says it has problems,
borders..Obama has sent more illegals back than any President (ticked off
liberals in the process).So ok, I guess Democrats will run on what
they have done. Health care for all, ending two wars, reversing a major
recession, and beginning climate policies.
It says that the Republicans in Cantor's district don't like the idea
of immigration reform as advanced by the US Chamber of Commerce, probably
Cantor's biggest backer.The US Chamber of Commerce, interested
in advancing the interests of Capitalism, want CHEAP LABOR.And
immigrants are a great source of cheap labor. But Republicans in Cantor's
district are fearful that immigrant laborers will take much-needed jobs away
from Americans. Cantor favored immigration reform that would make
this cheap labor more readily available . . . And that is why he lost.
SoCalChris said:"I don't think the election says much of
anything. It was an open primary in a single congressional district. It's dramatic because it involves Cantor but that's about
it."====You really don't get it. This was a
big win for many reasons. This was a warning to the Republican Establishment,
that we're tired of their "go along to get along attitude" with
President Obama and the Democrats. Eric Cantor, along with John Boehner, and
the rest of the GOP Leadership are ignoring the Republican base. Whether
it's Obamacare, Immigration Reform, or the lawlessness of President Obama,
the GOP Leadership are taking contrary positions with their base.The
very fact that Democrats are trying to minimize this win, tells me that they are
indeed worried about its implications. Cantor spent millions in this race,
while Brat spent about 200K. Conventional wisdom says this should've been
an easy win for Cantor.Since guys like Cantor, Boehner, McConnell
and other Establishment Republicans cave to Obama and the Democrats on
everything, it's no wonder the Left sees this as a threat, and are
desperately trying to minimize its implications.
I don't think the election says much of anything. It was an open primary
in a single congressional district. It's dramatic because it
involves Cantor but that's about it.
From what I read is looks like Canter had a big head. He thought he had it in
the bag and did not mount a serious campaign. What does it say about politics
in the country?? It says if you are running for office be there. Do not think
you have it inn the bag and campaign lazily. It says nothing abut the T party.
It sounds like anyone could have beaten Canter. He was not beaten by the T
party - He was beaten by HIMSELF!
Very interesting that this win by the conservative David Brat, over
Establishment Republican Eric Cantor is bothering the Democrats so much.
Why?I thought the Tea Party (regular citizens who believe the
Federal Government is too big) was history...finished...dead? Apparently not.
As much as the Left (and the GOP Establishment) would like to minimize this win,
they cannot! Wow, even Chris Matthews seems to get it: "Well, first of all, I don't think you can assume that the liberals
are smarter than the conservative professors. I think that’s crazy
talk...I was listening to Brat last night, and I listened to him today. I think
he's very sophisticated for a politician. He's certainly up to the
ranks of most politicians I've ever dealt with. He speaks in a speculative
manner and an intellectual manner. He can handle any debate on this program or
my program. So I– this looking down our noses at Tea Party people has got
to stop."While Cantor's loss was partially due to his role
in Immigration Reform (Amnesty), it was so much more. Let's see if the
Dems and GOPe figure it out.
The vote shows that people want somebody who will fight to reduce out-of-control
federal spending, not do backroom deals to continue going down the path that has
led us to economic disaster and has deepened and lengthened the recession. Many
Americans have no faith in Republicans who go to Washington, saying they will
fight the growth of the federal government and then acquiesce to political
pressure once there. They would rather risk losing in a general election than
rewarding a politician who can't be trusted.
According to a couple of polls that I have read in the last two days,
Immigration was not the reason Cantor lost. Immigration came in fifth on the
number of reasons.Could it be that the American people are tired of
war with Iraq and Afghanistan and no way wanted a war with Iran.It
seems to me that Cantor never met a war in the middle east that he did not like.
Did anyone hear the interview Chuck Todd did with Mr. Brat?Brat was
unable to answer most of the questions Todd asked.He'd better
do a lot of homework before the general election or he's going to look like
a complete fool.
For once I completely agree with Mountainman. This was not a vote for someone,
but a vote against an incumbent. This worked well in Utah where there was
little chance Lee would have had a real challenge from the other side. Virginia
is a whole other story - much more balanced voter base - so the Republicans have
their work cut out for them.I saw an interview with David Brat that
won today - seems to be a decent guy - and he was equally surprised he won. He
is far from the prototypical Tea Partier, in fact he took time to ensure people
he was not a Tea Party candidate. The people of Virginia will have
an interesting decision to make come November.
The "tea party" had nothing to do with Brat's victory. They
didn't support him. He won because his message was exactly what the
Republican Platform states. Few Republicans in Congress believe in that
Platform. Those politicians believe that they have to compromise OUR values so
that Obama will not veto bills or that Harry Reid will not keep the bill from
being voted on.The message is clear. America is tired of the
left-wing rhetoric. America is tired of spending money for programs that are
not Constitutionally mandated. America is tired of hearing excuses from elected
officials who will not stand for the people and for the States.Let
the Democrats run on their record. Let them tell us that Obamacare is good for
us. Let them tell us that they will tax the producers so that non-producers can
sit back and do nothing. Let them tell us that everything is fine at the IRS,
at the V.A., at the borders. Let them sell us on what they have DONE.
@Mountanman"What is more likely to happen in November is the Democrats
will lose the majority in the Senate for the same reasons this election in
Virginia (hardly a red state) went the way it did!"A very
conservative district (in an overall purple state) voted for a very conservative
candidate in a party primary. That actually doesn't tell us much at all
about the general election.
The lesson from Cantor's loss is nothing new. Lose touch with your
constituents and you should expect to lose the election. Orrin Hatch learned
the lesson well when Bob Bennett lost his reelection bid in 2010. He reached
out to voters almost immediately, said all of the right things and won
In the long term, it's possible that the Tea Party will gain some real
influence in American Politics. However, for the foreseeable future it really
only creates a Ross Perot effect dividing the Republican Party and reducing its
ability to influence on a national level. It pains me to say it,
but I think we are in for a long run of Democratic power and Socialist
legislation. As the populace becomes more liberal the fracturing of
conservatives all but assures it.
‘Join the discussion: What does Cantor's defeat say about the future
of American politics?’========= The same thing
Mitt Romney's defeat said about American politics...Pollsters
will tell their audience precisely wha they WANT to hear, all truth, facts
and reality aside...
Mountain Man you are completely wrong about Obamacare. There are a lot of people
who now have insurance. Under the old system I would never have been able to get
private insurance because of once having cancer. I now have private insurance
and it costs me less the $500 a month and that includes my wife. YOU have no
idea how uneducated you are!As for Cantor, he is a reflection of
smug, arrogant and self centered politicians. He lost all concern for his people
and was only focused on his personal gains. His defeat sends a message to ALL
politicians to NEVER FORGET WHO PUT YOU IN OFFICE!This is the only
victory the tea party has had.
I have yet to see a single poll that shows that the majority of Americans want
Obamacare to be repealed. Is there a credible poll that repubs could
refer me to that backs this wild claim up? Is this another exaggerated fantasy
claim from the ill-informed who wish to spew propaganda against our President?
Cantor's defeat sends a signal to politicians of all stripes. If they seek
reelection they should 1) never underestimate their opponent and 2) show up for
the campaign and work hard.Pretty simple.
The Tea-Partiers beat Eric Cantor, and put in David Brat -- in the REPUBLICAN
primary.The REAL vote happens in November, IMHO -- David Brat
will loose the General Election to whoever the Democrats put up against him.It should be the death toll, and wooden stake through the heart of the
"One Vote. Given the unpopularity of Obamacare, most Americans want
Obamacare to be repealed! Which will probably help the GOP in Nov and beyond!
Let Hillary and the Demos run on Obamacare!"Iraq is about to
fall.Let the GOP run on Iraq!Oh, and bailouts for big
banks and tax cuts for the rich! I'm sure Americans will be flocking to the
repub party then!
Mountanman said: "It says most people are sick of the corrupt Washington DC
establishment rampant in both parties! More incumbents will be voted
out!"I totally agree with what your first point but I'm
afraid your second comment will nbot come true. For some reason Americans
complain wildly about Congress as a group but seem to like their Congressman,
the one representing them."Given the unpopularity of Obamacare,
most Americans want Obamacare to be repealed!" Well, not quite.
A Kaiser Family Foundation poll taken in March revealed that while only 10
percent want to keep it as is it is, a plurality, or 49 percent, want to keep it
in place but work to improve it. Just 29 percent said it should be repealed and
replaced with a GOP alternative or nothing at all.
Cantor's defeat shows the GOP is torn and divided. And a divided house
shall fall. The GOP has shown over the last 20 years it is unable to lead and
has been irresponsible when given the chance.
One Vote. Given the unpopularity of Obamacare, most Americans want Obamacare to
be repealed! Which will probably help the GOP in Nov and beyond! Let Hillary and
the Demos run on Obamacare!
No leadership outside of than Democratic party. If elected he will vote fifty
times unsuccessfully to repeal Affordable Care Act and cause expensive
What is more likely to happen in November is the Democrats will lose the
majority in the Senate for the same reasons this election in Virginia (hardly a
red state) went the way it did!
It says that the primary voters in this district in Virginia don't like
politicians who might waiver at all from 100% ideological tea party purity.
Doesn't say anything about the American people in general.
I thought the election was in November? So what happens if Mr Tea
Party falls flat on his face against his democrat opponent in November? Then can
we call the few party dead?
It says most people are sick of the corrupt Washington DC establishment rampant
in both parties! More incumbents will be voted out!