Love plans to join Congressional Black Caucus; Owens first to buy TV time

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  • CDL Los Angeles, CA
    June 14, 2014 5:03 p.m.

    A rising star. The policies of the left do in fact pander to those that have a Govt. dependency mentality. They buy into the lies, or politically correct suggestions that if you don't support the purported ideology of the left, then of course your a racist. However their real intent only weighs them down and keeps them where they are at. Their real intent. We don't need more programs. We don't need to rape other Americans of their monies lowering their standard of living, to keep the 'dependency mentally challenged individuals' in the same place. If one wants to better their lives thy will vote for jobs, not programs. High paying jobs, not temporary low wage jobs that we have recently been seeing. Vote for an environment where job creation will flourish. Now we need a 'Working America,' a 'Prosperous America' once again. An America full of opportunity for all.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    June 12, 2014 6:44 a.m.

    Speaking on the notion of affirmative action. It's not fair that most athletes are black. If we really are going to use percentages, then about 1/2 of the average team should be white, 13% black, 20% latino, 3% Asian 2% Pacific Islander so on and so forth. Those percentages are probably inaccurate, but, it gives you an idea.

    If affirmative action is about making things fair, then that is an area that is very biased towards anyone that isn't black...

    Just saying...

  • crodier Murray, UT
    June 11, 2014 4:31 p.m.

    I'm so glad Mia is already formulating a plan. The CBC needs some alternative voices, and it will do us all good.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    June 11, 2014 4:24 p.m.

    I sure wish Enid Greene Waldholtz would join the Democrats and run agaist her. That would be a close election with lots of entertainment.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    June 11, 2014 2:21 p.m.

    Love appears to be qualified?


    Then we really need to raise our standards.

  • Paul8777 Brigham City, UT
    June 11, 2014 1:08 p.m.

    I wonder if Ms. Love will join the Tea Party Caucus? Replace the words "Congressional Black" with "Tea Party" and the same description applies. Will she also try to "take [THAT] thing apart from the inside out"?

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    June 11, 2014 12:39 p.m.

    @ DN Subscriber, if ever I've seen a candidate who thinks she is entitled to the job, it is Love. She acts like she is just waiting for the coronation.

    And my, if any of you think that racism and discrimination aren't still a really big problme, you prove my point.

  • ECR Burke, VA
    June 11, 2014 12:04 p.m.

    Concinnity and Sagacious - Despite your assumptions, I made no reference to the people of Utah. I was a Utah resident for more than 11 years and I know the people of Utah to be as good hearted and open minded as any people in the country. The general tone of the comments on this page are that Mia Love would be a traitor if she joined the CBC or the comments took that as an excuse to make unfounded accusations about the CBC.

    Yes, it is the Congressional Black Caucus and, as such, it has an agenda that is focused on promoting and supporting the issues imprtant5 clacjk people, and more recently, all people of color.

    "Blacks account for 13% of the U.S. population yet have over 20% of federal government jobs.." I sure that is true. But there is a reason for that. The vast majority of federal workers live and work in the Washington DC area and Washongton DC is 75% black. So every janitor, security guard or other low paying federal job is typically filled by a black person. There are reasons for some of the things people think are unfair.

  • Florwood American Fork, UT
    June 11, 2014 12:00 p.m.

    Betcha, your ID says you live in Massachusetts. That means you don't have a vote to win or lose. Believe it or not, this article is about a Congressional race in Utah.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 11, 2014 11:49 a.m.

    We do not need another "entitled" political dynasty member, especially a lawyer, representing us in Congress. Especially a supposed blue dog who will turn out to pull a "Matheson" on us, voting with Nancy Pelosi when it really counts and making token "moderate" votes when given permission to do so on unimportant issues.

    No, we need Mia Love who is strong, principled, and unafraid to change the status quo- witness her bold willingness to try to change the ridiculous policies of the Congressional Black [Liberal Democrat] Caucus. Or at least highlight the fact that not all black people think that way.

    We, and the entire country, need Mia Love in Congress! Not another lawyer son of a politicia

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    June 11, 2014 11:28 a.m.

    Oh the comments are hilarious. First of all you have the Tea Partiers mad at their hero Mia now because she dares to say she'll join the CBC (even though she expressly criticizes it). Then you have the people who constantly play the victim card (our religious freedom is being violated because we have to hear about gay people getting married!!) criticizing black people for playing the victim card. Quite entertaining.

  • Sagacious Logan, UT
    June 11, 2014 11:08 a.m.


    What makes you assume Concinnity, and by extention most Utahans, don't understand Black history and current issues? You seem to be making judgments without actually knowing facts.

    You're trying to expound history that most of us are already aware of. The Civil Rights Act took place a half century ago... almost 2 generations ago. But you make it sound like it barely took place.

    There have been hundreds of billions of dollars thrown into dozens of social programs since the Civil Rights Act was passed, but with only very limited success. The fact that you are still claiming such a high degree of victimhoom for Blacks still exists proves as much. And indeed, some undoubtedly still are victims in one way or another.

    I read Concinnity's comments to mean that the CBC's approach to solving Black race problems isn't working well, and that Mia Love wants to change that by incorporating Conservative principles into the CBC agenda. I'm not sure why you seem to be so up in arms over that.

    What else is the CBC doing for Black people other than pushing for even more money for more government programs? Nothing.

  • Concinnity Richfield, UT
    June 11, 2014 10:51 a.m.

    @ ECR:

    We all know Black history.

    You act like you've forgotten slavery actually ended a century and a half ago. How long are you and other liberals going to keep playing that race-card of victimhood? Things have changed and much of that issue has.

    We now have laws protecting all creeds and races. Everyone now has official equal opportunity. What more can the government officially do in that regard without favoring one race over another?

    Blacks account for 13% of the U.S. population yet have over 20% of federal government jobs... some of the most sought-after in America. Affirmative action programs have done a lot of good... so much so that they're sometimes becoming counterproductive. Much success regarding former oppression has happened. Why do you continue being blind to racial progress?

    Yes, I've known various Black people throughout most of my life when living elsewhere. Many (but admittedly not all) I still consider friends. Even some of they agree there are Black race-hustlers who are overplaying the victimhood scenario. And yes, some problems do still exist.

    There are better ways of helping Black people than what the CBC is doing.

  • Concinnity Richfield, UT
    June 11, 2014 9:55 a.m.

    @ kevinmosley:

    The CBC actions indicate they primarily like to play the "race card" similar to what Al Sharpton always does. Victim-hood seems to be their motto whenever I've listened to CBC representitives talk. History has shown they adamantly oppose almost anything and everything Republicans try to do, since they are almost exclusively Democrats.

    They oppose giving inner-city youth more chance at a better education by opposing the school voucher system that Republicans have tried to push (Democrats are indebted to school teacher unions who supported Obama's campaign and those unions strongly oppose the voucher program).

    When anyone has stated there are currently problems within Black families (3 of every 4 Black babies are born out of wedlock and most Black families are single-parent without a father at home), they become incensed and say that such claims are racially motivated and biased.

    Their answer to everything seems to be to get more taxpayer money for more government programs for more Black people... as if that is a cure-all.

    A small amount of online research will validate my comments and their veracity.

  • riverofsun St.George, Utah
    June 11, 2014 9:49 a.m.

    Mia may have a difficult time.
    Southern Utah, for instance, is filled with many 55+ communities. Ours is going on 1,700 homes, with not one black individual to be found.
    Many of Utah's residents relocate here from other states hoping to find safety, tranquility and peace, and to avoid the crime, racial tension, etc, that is no so rampant across America now. They seem to think that Utah is different, and they definitely want to keep it that way.
    Many cannot accept diversity or new ideas in any shape or form. Some speak very opposite of "political correctness", to put it nicely.
    Not sure how this venture will go for Mia.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    June 11, 2014 9:37 a.m.

    I'm tired of politics. Everyone has an agenda and rarely is that agenda the best for constituents. This all needs to end.

  • kevinmosley Pittsburgh, PA
    June 11, 2014 9:27 a.m.

    Does anyone commenting have a clue as to what the CBC does? Do the CBC naysayers care to know?

    "Ignorance is a cure for nothing." W.E.B. Du Bois

  • oddman ,
    June 11, 2014 9:19 a.m.

    Wish I could vote for you Mia, but don't live in Utan.. I think too many of us try to 'read into ' your comments things that simply aren't there.and put our own interpertion on your intentions. Unfortunately the current world we live in makes it difficult to believe what people say because a good number of them tell us only what they think will gain our vote. The fact that you are a Republican says a lot more about your thinking than the thoughts of the posters. I wish you the best as you are a doer and not a taker.

  • Sagacious Logan, UT
    June 11, 2014 8:52 a.m.

    @ JBQ and Water Rocket:

    I'm not sure why you think you are qualified to interpret Mia's intentions beyond anything she's actually said. And to even insinuate her primary motive is to mainly represent Black people is ridiculous.

    The truth is, the Congressional Black Caucus does a lot of negative things. It's hurting America. She simply wants to get in a situation where she can create some positive change. Someone truly does need to change the CBC's current agenda and purpose. And that can best be done from inside of it. From outside of it, all attempts have thus far failed.

    Mia knows what she is doing and continues to stand for traditional Conservative principles. She will make an excellent representative of Utah. There's no question in my mind that the people of Utah should support her. She stands for what the majority of Utah does. And it's not Obama's liberal version of Hope and Change.

    Get to Washington DC and help get things fixed, Mia. I have strong confidence you can and will do it.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    June 11, 2014 8:51 a.m.

    A vote for Owen is a vote for an older white male. Typical democrats. They just don't have candidates that look like their voting base.

  • LouisD Las Vegas, NV
    June 11, 2014 8:21 a.m.

    Ms. Love should just remind Owens, HIS DEMOCRAT PARTY:

    ...has murdered 55 million mostly Black, Hispanic and Asian children in the womb since 1970,
    ...supported & endorsed slavery,
    ...opposed abolition,
    ...founded & funded the KKK,
    ...wrote & passed every Jim Crow Law,
    ...opposed the 13th, 14th & 15th Amendments that ended slavery, granted citizenship & the vote
    ...supported the 16th Amendment, Federal Reserve & Revenue Acts which encumbered private property & brought ALL America to indentured servitude/slavery
    ...supported the 17th Amendment which stripped STATE'S power to CURB FEDERALISM
    ...founded Marxist Labor Unions to suppress freedom of individual enterprise & force recently freed Black Republicans back into the Democrat Party that had enslaved them in the South,
    ...broke the treaties, stole the land & interred Native Americans to prisons called Reservations,
    ...broke the citizenship covenant, stole the land & interred Asians to prison camps called Manzonar, Topaz, Granada, Tule Lake and Minidoka,
    ...repudiated the 1st Amendment rights of Mormons, harassed, murdered & chased them completely out of the United States,
    ...kept segregating society, the military, schools,
    ...fathered Progressivism (Marxism)in America,
    ...harassed, bugged, jailed & murdered Republican Martin Luther King,
    ...built drug & organized crime infested ghettos,
    ...want to remove a Black man's right to keep and bear arms, assemble & worship freely.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    June 11, 2014 8:11 a.m.

    @ BU52, In a weird way, I kind of agree with you that the mainstream blacks might not accept her as one of their own. She is more like Michelle Bachman, white and clueless about racial issues in America. The thing is, many of the comments here, attacking the CBC, indicate one of two things. Either an inherent lack of understanding of racial history and issues, which is where Love is, in my opinion, or latent racism. By latent racism, I don't necessarily mean intentional racism, but in a way that many don't really understand. It's easy to say one is not racist, but reality says otherwise, often in some very subtle ans surprising ways. If Love doesn't appreciate the racial issues faced by mainstream blacks, and I really doubt she does as she is totally immersed in a white, middle class world, then she shouldn't bother. In the end, if she is elected, she won't be accepted by the CBC, even if for policy reasons, because she doesn't share their goals, but she won't feel fully accepted by her own party in the House. She will be used, but not fully accepted.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    June 11, 2014 8:04 a.m.

    Mia will be lucky if the Congressional Black Caucus will even let her know where the meetings are. The fact is, they aren't the Congressional Black Caucus, they are the Democrat Black Caucus. But, Mia is tough. she can take it.

    Go Mia!

  • Betcha Waltham, MA
    June 11, 2014 7:56 a.m.

    Well, she just lost my vote,,, I really thought she would be a great candidate, but any time, black people start to play the Race card, just to win, or think thats why they don't win,, they loose my support.. if we are all Americans, and we are all fighting for the same cause, STOP pulling the race card just to get what you want, If she were to win, it will be because so many people voted for her, and I can promise you, there will be black, white, hispanic , and other groups, but if we are all one, then the black community needs to act like it just as much as the rest of us do...

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    June 11, 2014 7:55 a.m.

    I have been searching for a resolution to the Lee Benson-Mia Love flap over the MLK story interview. As it last stood, Mia denied what Benson wrote.
    Has there been any update on that?
    For me, her backstory confusion is a deal-breaker.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    June 11, 2014 7:48 a.m.

    I agree with the comment @water rocket. Ms. Love appears to be very sincere and qualified. However, it does appear that she wants to represent African-Americans and not the entire constituency for which she will be elected. I find that the comment @ArizonaMormon may be a bit naïve to the real agenda of Ms. Love.

  • mcdugall Murray, UT
    June 11, 2014 7:18 a.m.

    @cruiser - Ownen's a liberal, thats a good one. He's a blue dog democrat. Utah ceded all rights and ownership to a huge portion of the land within the state boundaries to the Federal government, end of story. The gerrymandering efforts to split Salt Lake Country into three congressional districts was absolutely wrong.

  • BU52 Provo, ut
    June 11, 2014 7:03 a.m.

    I agree with water, they probably wouldn't be very nice to her, you know she probably isn't "black" enough, or they would try to entrap her into their agenda...Why are there even caucus organizations within Congress?

  • Politikyle Murray, UT
    June 11, 2014 6:35 a.m.

    If Doug Owens entire campaign is going to be based on bomb throwing and attacks then this race is already over. That may be red meat for the angry liberal crowd but I think we all want solutions not empty angry rhetoric from an empty suit.
    The Utah Democrat party seems to think that having angry bomb throwers like Jim Dabakis and Doug Owens is going to win a race. Sadly they are wrong. At least they show the true tone of the Utah Democrat party.

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    June 11, 2014 6:27 a.m.

    I seriously doubt that the Congressional Black Caucus will have anything to do with her. I don't see them accepting Tim Scott from South Carolina. Other black Republicans have also been rejected. Ask them what they think of Clarence Thomas. It would be better for Mia to not even bring the subject up because they will not have her meet with them. They are by far the most radical, left wing group in Congress. Mia Love represents everything they hate.

  • DavisMan Clearfield, UT
    June 11, 2014 5:34 a.m.

    HEY Water Rocket
    Try reading the story she says she want to take it apart not just keep it the way it is. Still glad your rethinking Mia. If you check out her record (not just listen to her) you will find she veto and says two very differ things.

  • ArizonaMormon Mesa, AZ
    June 11, 2014 1:25 a.m.

    @Water rocket,
    I'm not sure why this would be such an issue. Love didn't say she supports the CBC's objectives. Quite the contrary. She said she would work to change their objectives. Joining a caucus doesn't mean you only represent certain people. It has nothing to do with that. There is a caucus for physicians-turned congressmen. That doesn't mean they only represent doctors.

    It is absurd to think that merely joining the Congressional Black Caucus would somehow prevent Mrs. Love from representing constituents of other races. Especially when she states with no ambiguity whatsoever that he goal is to change what the CBC stands for.

    It's admirable of her to want to be a good, conservative role model for young African-Americans.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    June 11, 2014 12:28 a.m.

    The race issue is caused by the Gov. and is kept stirring up the issue. Social issues is none of the Governments business. They only purpose is to protect our borders, and keep our economy strong.

  • Schnee Salt Lake City, UT
    June 11, 2014 12:00 a.m.

    [Caucus members, she said then, "ignite emotions and ignite racism when there isn't]

    Says the person who implied that the CBC helps keep black people dependent on the government...

  • cruiser South Jordan, UT
    June 10, 2014 11:39 p.m.

    The last thing we need in D.C. is another lawyer! Owens is a big government liberal who doesn't think our state is capable of managing our land. He is out of touch with the mainstream in this district! Go Mia!

  • water rocket Magna, UT
    June 10, 2014 8:02 p.m.

    I have followed Mia's career for a number of years and felt she was sincere, but lacked polish. Now she states that she would join the "black caucus" if elected. For me, her being black is a non issue, but joining a caucus with a racist agenda bothers me. If she were to be elected, she should NOT be in Washington D.C. with any other purpose other than to represent ALL of the residents of Utah. There is a far greater number of people with Hispanic and European ancestry living in Utah than Blacks (blacks should be represented, but so should those with Asian, Hispanic and European ancestry. Joining a black caucus is a serious issue for me. Rethink this, Mia.