"Comparing BYU and Utah bowl destinations during the Independent/PAC era:BYU - Dallas, San Diego, San Francisco, MiamiUtah - El
Paso"Ouch! That's gonna leave a scar!Want some
Merthiolate with that Spokane?
@ Copacetic-"There is not a Ute fan alive that wouldn't
love to be playing more games on ESPN, regardless of which day of the week.
"I disagree with this. I like Saturday games, with an
occasional one Thursday night every now and then. Teams that play in the middle
of the week to get on ESPN are typically from the Mid-American Conference. Utah
is not in a position where they have to beg for tv spots and the revenue that
goes along with it.-"BYU gets more watchers on one of those ESPN
games than Utah gets all season long on the PAC channel."Admittedly, I don't know. But I'm not sure this is true...
Interesting that Spokane Ute and U-PAC together have a double-digit number of
posts to this article. You aren't convincing anyone that you don't
really care about BYU sports. Obviously, you and most other Ute fans do. The
proof is in the postings... the many, many postings.Spokane Ute:I'm a bit surprised at you. You are usually one of the classiest of
the Ute fans who posts regularly. You started out well today but then
deteriorated in banter with a few ulta-BYU fans. But at least you finished on a
positive note. Enjoy your weekend.
It is so hilarious reading all the various ways anti-BYU Ute fans try to dis
this news. The jealously seeps through no matter how they try to disguise and
spin it. It's truly hilarious.There is not a Ute fan alive that
wouldn't love to be playing more games on ESPN, regardless of which day of
the week. BYU gets more watchers on one of those ESPN games than Utah gets all
season long on the PAC channel. DishTV is quite popular here in
Cache Valley. I have many friends who subscribe to it. And sadly, the ones who
try to follow the Utes usually have to settle for getting game updates on their
phones. It really is quite sad.The fact that so many Ute fans are
here commenting indicates just how relevant and significant BYU has become.
Otherwise, they wouldn't be paying any attetion at all to this sort of
press release. But the fact that they are here spouting off legitimizes
BYU's significance.U-PAC:We don't really care how
much money ESPN pays BYU. We're just very happy to be able to watch
BYU's games... week after week.
Everyone have a good day and a good weekend; the Spokane Ute is out of here!
Thanks Spokane Ute! All the Ute fans I meet in public are every bit as nice in
person as you are on these threads. Thank you! You are doing your school and fan
base proud!Can't wait for Neyland Stadium!Great to
hear of Bobby and Roberts success... I hope Turbin continues to get reps, but
sounds like they may be harder to come by with a new guy coming in...Thanks again!
Ifel Ofa-sofaReally looking forward to the Tenn match up. USU
opening game vs. Auburn a few years back was a great, great game. Wagner and
Turbin are two of my favorite Seahawks! Enjoy your visit to Knoxville; I will be
pulling for the Aggies! Have a good one Guy!
Utah State 2014 Football TV Schedule so far:Aug 31 at Tennessee on SEC
networkSept 13 at Wake Forest on CBSSNOct 3 at BYU on ESPNOct
11 v Airforce on ESPN, ESPN2 or ESPNU TBAOct 18 at Colorado on CBSSNOct 25 v UNLV on ESPN, ESPN2 or ESPNU TBANov 7 at Wyoming on ESPN2Nov 15 v New Mexico on ESPN, ESPN2 or ESPNU TBANov 21 v San Jose on
ESPN2Nov 29 at Boise on ESPN, ESPN2 or ESPNU TBADec 6 MWC
Championship on CBSSept 6 v Idaho says TV TBA, but no announcement
yet, but I'm sure not nationalLOGAN, Utah - Utah State's
football game at BYU on Friday, Oct. 3 will begin at 8:30 p.m., and be televised
nationally on ESPN it was announced Wednesday.With today's
announcement, Utah State will now have a total of 10 games nationally televised
this fall with five home contests and five road games as seven of the matchups
will appear on one of the ESPN Networks (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU) and two on CBS
Sports Network, while its season-opener at Tennessee on Sunday, Aug. 31 will
appear on the SEC Network.
PhoenixHow many differen't names do you post under? If you
honestly think that BYU will end up any where other than Provo or Miami, I have
some ocean front property here in Spokane that you might be interested in. I do stand some what corrected regarding future bowl tie ins, but your
statement doesn't tell the whole story. What a suprise. In 2013 it
was: BCS/Rose, Alamo, Holiday, Sun, Maaco, Kraft, New Mexico. So when BYU played
in it, the bowl was 6 out of 7. In 2014 it is: Playoff/Rose, Alamo,
Holiday, Kraft, Sun, Maaco, Buff Wild Wings. So BYU played in the #6 out
of #7 bowl. Hardley a premier bowl; which was my point. It has now moved up to
#4, and of course BYU won't be able to play in it. Why are you worried
about El Paso? Odd that you didn't mention Vegas, San Diego, Pasadena, etc.
I'm sure it was just an over sight. Congrats on being locked into a low
tier bowl, in June, vs a team from the American Conference. No other program can
has that going for them.
talkingsportsThat's awesome that you know what the
investigation is going to turn over, prior to it's conclusion. Great
in-sight my friend. Actually, I hope you are right. I wouldn't wish
probation, or trouble, on any program; even BYU.
Spokane UteFurthermore, you don't even know your own
conference's bowl lineup.2014-2019 lineupCollege Football
Playoff/RoseAlamo vs. Big 12Holiday vs. Big TenFight Hunger
vs. Big Ten (no longer associated with Kraft)Sun vs. ACCMaaco Bowl
Las Vegas vs. MWCBuffalo Wild Wings vs. Big 12Of course, since
Utah isn't good enough to play in a bowl anymore, it's understandable
that you wouldn't be keeping up on the latest changes.---------------btw, BYU is only "locked in" to the Miami
Beach Bowl, if BYU isn't invited as an at-large team to a BCS bowl.Frankly, as a BYU fan, I'd much rather be looking forward to
spending bowl week in Miami, than home in Spokane on the couch.Comparing BYU and Utah bowl destinations during the Independent/PAC era:BYU - Dallas, San Diego, San Francisco, MiamiUtah - El PasoSorry, but who would want to spend New Year's Eve in El Paso?
upac"I'm enjoying BYU's ongoing situation immensely.
The "entertainment" value is priceless my friend."Now
why would a Utah fan be more entertained with BYU, than with his own team,
unless, of course, he's much more of a BYU hater, than a Utah fan?------------btw, as Wiscougarfan already stated, the big
"investigation" will turn out to nothing more than a few minor
infractions that will result in some mild hand slapping from the NCAA.
...oh, it just occurred to me that U-PAC might be finding BYU's schedule to
be "immensely entertaining", not sockgate. I have to agree
with you there as well (if that was your intent). Funny that Utah fans find the
need to constantly post about a schedule that would rank in the top 10 all-time
in Utah's history, and #1 all-time in terms of media coverage. Now
admittedly the home slate stinks, but it isn't any worse than what we (or
Utah) regularly had in the MWC/WAC. And because BYU's fan base extends
well beyond Utah I think a great television contract trumps marquee home games.
U-PACCheers to that. I also find the "ongoing situation" to
be quite entertaining. It's hilarious that BYU haters (including some
members of the media) think there is a story here at all. No major infractions
have been verified and it is likely that none will come down from the NCAA. BYU
simply holds themselves to a higher standard-thus the investigation. Judging by the now hundreds (possibly thousands) of posts by alleged Utah fans
about the state of BYU football this is immensely entertaining. Especially
given that over the last few years several sports programs at the U have been
found guilty of much more serious infractions and BYU fans just didn't care
(with a few trolling exceptions). Thank you for your continued support of all
things BYU. Go Cougs!
The team that's on the outside looking in is BYU. Already locked into one
of the lowest of the low bowl gamee for next year. The Miami Beach Bowl vs. some
one from the American conference. Impressinve! No chance of playing in a top
tier bowl, since only the power 5 conferences have those ties. It's hard to
say how much stock BYU fans would put in a win over Utah, since it just
doesn't happen. Furthermore, the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl is the #5 (or 6 of
8 pending championship) of 7 bowl tie-ins for the PAC 12. I would hardley call
that a "PAC 12 premier bowl", but it is one that BYU can not play in
this year. In the future, you should really do a little reseach prior to making
such statements. I hope that helps with your understanding of the pecking order.
u-pacSeason tickets already renewed, why would a BYU-obsessed Utah
fan be so worried about BYU's schedule?Playing Houston(8-5),
Virginia(2-10), Utah State(9-5), Nevada(4-8), UNLV(7-6), and Savannah
State(1-11) at home (31-45 overall),isn't much different than
playing Pittsburgh(8-5), UNLV(2-11), San Jose State(1-12), Colorado State(3-9),
TCU(13-0), and BYU(7-6) at home (34-43 overall),Utah's final
home schedule in the MWC.Three of BYU's home opponents played
in bowls last season and two had double-digit losses.Three of Utah's
home opponents played in bowls in 2010 and two had double-digit losses.With the exception of TCU, which had an outstanding year, Utah's 2010
schedule wasn't much to brag about. Even BYU had a very mediocre team in
2010.As an Independent, schedules will vary more than in a
conference, but I look forward to seeing a variety of teams like Texas, Ga Tech,
Notre Dame, Boise State, California, Arizona, Wisconsin, Stanford, and USC
playing in Provo.Guaranteed, we'll never see Texas or Notre
Dame playing in that tiny stadium on the hill.
RE: U-PAC"Football is purely entertainment, and I just
don't see very much "entertainment" value in BYU's home
schedules."REALLY?!! Why is it then that you've made
dozens of posts, just in the last week, about BYU and their schedule? Is
posting on this board your job? It is entertaining to see so many Utah/PAC12
fans who can't get enough of BYU football. Go Cougs!
Exposure is great. What I like most is watching BYU play. Can't wait for
football to begin. Go Cougars!
Spokane Ute"and slap another Kraft Macaroni and Cheese bowl
loser on your 1984 Yugo! BYU has lost to Utah 4 straight seasons."More proof that Utah fans care more about beating BYU than playing in a
bowl.Who really on the outside looking in, the team that's
played in nine straight bowl games, or the team that's spent the last two
seasons watching bowl week from the comfort of their couch?btw,
Kraft wasn't even involved in BYU's San Francisco bowl game, which
will become one of the PAC 12's premier bowl games next season - good job
dissing your own bowl.
UteanymousYes, and slap another Kraft Macaroni and Cheese bowl loser
on your 1984 Yugo!BYU has lost to Utah 4 straight seasons. I guess they
can curl their hair and have tickle fights with Savanah State, since the only
team they play, who as you state it, plays in the pillow fight of the Rockies,
thumps them. How sad it must be to be on the outside looking in. Karma!
U-PACRivalry week and the conclusion of another losing, bowl less
season, mercifully ended with another meaningless pillow fight in the
Rockies.Slap another PAC 12 sticker on something and prepare to
enjoy bowl week from the comfort of your couch.
I much prefer watching games on friday night or thursday night. On a nice summer
or fall saturday its a good chance to be outside rather than watching TV.Go BYU!
a lot of insecurity amongst my ute pac 10.2. groupies. folks, it is the school
and the team that are important. why do so many tout the conference? btw,
aren't there any articles on the swoops to read? no crimson, black, no
brave just a chicken hawk. Lots have changed since I was a ute, and not really
for the better.
Las Vegas Aggiere: "Rockwell you need to check your local
listing Utah State of the MWC currently has 7 ESPN games 2 CBS games and 1 SEC
game all scheduled on National TV with 3 more pending."Don't know where you're getting your information from, but the Utah
State schedule currently posted on ESPN's website (ESPN would certainly
know their own schedule) only lists 3 ESPN/ESPN2 games:1 ESPN game
(courtesy of BYU in Provo)2 ESPN2 games (at Wyoming, vs San Jose St)2 CBS Sports games (vs Wake Forest, at CSU)BYU's schedule on
ESPN lists:5 ESPN games (at Connecticut, vs Houston, vs Utah State, at
UCF, and at BSU)1 Fox Sports 1 nationally televised game at Texas1
CBS Sports gameFYI, ESPN Networks are NOT the same as ESPN/ESPN2 -
they could be ESPNU or even ESPN3 (which is nothing more than on-line streaming)
As a BYU fan I really enjoy reading about the BYU football program and the
things that are going on in the program.... especially how our games are being
played across the nation on the ESPN channels....whether it's ESPN, ESPN2
or ESPN3.....And don't you love the negativity expressed by the
Utah and Utah State fans:)Personally I will be moving back east this
summer to take up residence in Connecticut....My family and I will proudly wear
our BYU colors to the UConn game that evening and cheer loudly for the
Cougars!!!I just don't understand all the negativity expressed
in the comments section towards BYU. It all seems conjecture to me. Take your
negativity and go elsewhere to express it.Go Cougars!
Looking forward to watching more BYU football on ESPN. Go Cougars!
@ UpacBYU gets paid a flat fee by ESPN. It doesn't matter if
they air the games on ESPN or ESPN3 BYU is paid the same.
@UpacI agree wholeheartedly. I still want to know if Savannah State
is bringing its band. If they do I may shell out for the tickets. The chance
to see a SWAC team's band live is one of those special things few big
college teams get to experience. Its up there with the academy and Notre Dame
games. Do you fondly remember watching all those Grambling Alcorn
State games too? Best halftime shows in all of college football. I watched
several of those as a kid on network TV. I'd imagine Savannah State will
put on a great halftime for all in attendance. All the SWAC teams are like
that. However the schools are in dire straights in recent years. The SWAC used
to get players in the NFL, and were financially stable. The BCS years really
hurt the black schools. They have had fewer donors and all sorts of upkeep
problems. This really is the last chance I think for fans of the game in Utah
to experience a program like Savannah State. Its even more special being on
Oh the irony of BYU haters commenting negatively about BYU’s weeknight
games… Week 1 is a Friday primetime draw vs. UCONN on ESPN. Last season
that slot had more than 3 million viewers. Utah’s first game is Thursday
vs. Idaho state on PAC12 Network. Later in the season the Utes play a Thursday
night vs. Oregon State (10:00 PM on FOX Sports 1). They'll be lucky to get
100,000 viewers for either of those games.BYU’s Thursday
primetime game vs. Houston (week 3) and Friday primetime vs. Utah State will
both be broadcast on ESPN. Trolls are making it sound like these three BYU
games (UCONN, Houston, USU) are the worst possible slots but that’s not
even close to the reality. All three of these games (all against non P5 teams)
will likely have more television viewers than most or all of Utah’s games.
FWIW, ESPN is also broadcasting five ACC matchups on their popular
Thursday night series this season, including the defending national champions.
Sorry Ute fans, but this announcement that BYU is nailing down several ESPN (not
ESPN 2, 3 of university) slots is huge in terms of viewers and potential
exposure. Go Cougs!
Everyone all either talking up or down the whole BYU TV things. I am just glad I
can watch there games, not like what it was like in 2009 when most of the games
we heard on the radio or had to wait for highlights etc. Now I get to watch all
their games and I do not care who they are playing I always have a good time
watching. Last I remember sports and football was about having fun, not
comparing each others horses so to speak. I also do enjoy the Thursday and
Friday night games so I can enjoy the rest of the weekend or do some work around
Vegas, you over-exaggerate. Please site your reference. I see two usu games on
ESPN 2, one on ESPN, one on SEC, and two CBS sports. Only ESPN and ESPN2 can
really be viewed by anyone, so that is 3 games, far less than the 10 you claim
are all over national TV. BYU has 5 on ESPN alone. Sorry, your post is not at
TV exposure is great and BYU has a large independent audience because of the LDS
tie in. But having said that, I still get the feeling that most BYU fans would
like to see the Cougars with a conference affiliation. There is no question it
is a lot of fun competing for a championship and developing rivalries with
conference members rather than dealing with a scheduling mishmash of different
opponents over the years.
Las Vegas, I don't think USU's games are on ESPN, maybe ESPN3 and
those CBS games are hidden like the PAC 12. They are CBSports, not CBS.
The PAC-12 network is the new Mountain. Aggie and Cougar fans have a lot more to
be happy about in terms of TV coverage than the Utes do. Mark it down!
I LOVE the Thursday and Friday games. Being one of four or two games being on
the television is great for exposure. I wouldn't mind seeing BYU with a
BYE week connected play one of the rare Tuesday or Wednesday games.@ChrisbBYU highlights are all over ESPN on Saturday afternoons
when they play on Thursday or Friday. You should check it out. BEFORE the
games they often show the highlights of previous games. At HALFTIME they show
the highlights. At the end of the game they show the highlights. Usually the
Cougars get two or three minute clips early on in the day, and gradually less as
the day winds on. It sure beats having the game played Saturday night with very
few repeat exposure. Besides when they play early in the week I can take time
and spend it with the family.
@Christopher B,Yes, Saturday afternoon would be great but how can
you argue with ESPN (yes, ESPN) on Thursday or Friday nights when there's
not a dozen other games to compete against. And clearly better than trying to
find a game on some obscure PAC-12 channel, which isn't even available in
most U.S. households.
Rockwell you need to check your local listing Utah State of the MWC currently
has 7 ESPN games 2 CBS games and 1 SEC game all scheduled on National TV with 3
more pending. So I don't think your independence means much as it relates
to TV. Oh yes 3 of USU games are on Friday including one with the Y
and I think 5 more are prime time and the last on Saturday. The days of the
mountian went away. It's time to get into the 21st century.
Why doesn't ESPN show byu on Saturday afternoons?
Is the U of U even on T.V. this year?
ESPN has been the key to independence. It's nice to be able to see your
team, I'm not sure BYU has had this much coverage since KSL tv held the
I love the Thursday and Friday night games. Prime time and center stage; looking
forward to it!
Does anyone know how to find ESPN on my carrier? Wait, that's easy,
it's standard nationally
Our HD truck and broadcast partner make us the most watched college football
team in the world.
It's nice to have ESPN as a partner - when some fans question why BYU went
Independent, that's the primary reason, television coverage.The
MWC still doesn't have a television package that's even close to what
BYU has with the World Wide Leader.