Brad Rock: Derek Fisher still getting what he wants

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  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    June 5, 2014 10:46 a.m.

    Fisher is who he is. NBA GMs know it. Why does he keep getting signed? Because teams know he can play and contribute, he's a solid professional. He certainly doesn't have the level of talent that would cause teams to sign him if he were viewed as a head-case, team chemistry problem or bad citizen.

    He went to OKC for the same reason Ray Allen went to Boston and then to Miami. Are we supposed to have mixed feelings about him as well. I thought players were supposed to want to win.

    Am I to believe Fisher is so smart he's able to manipulate and take advantage of NBA GMs and owners...I think those folks can take care of themselves.

    Fisher's workplace is the NBA where players who don't look out for themselves are subject to the whims of teams who rarely show the type of loyalty that the article seems to imply Fisher lacks.

    I've certainly got no issue with him as a player or a person.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    June 4, 2014 6:02 p.m.

    No worries...if it doesn't work out coaching, or it does and he wants a bigger contract, I suspect he will see he needs to move closer to LA then move to Miami or something.

    This guy has to one of the most successful phonies ever, Say one thing and do the opposite and come out smelling like a rose.

    What goes around comes around Fish.

  • Morgan Duel Taylorsville, UT
    June 4, 2014 5:03 p.m.

    Wow and if he joins NY he will win another Ring! What a great guy!!

  • ImABeliever Provo, UT
    June 4, 2014 1:13 p.m.

    As a Golden State Warriors who knows more than a thing or two about professional sports.
    You people need to stop isolating Derek Fisher and his contract. All owners and players in professional sports re-do or renegotiate there contract before it is due. Whatever the reason.
    Quit being so judgemental of someone else's situation until your own backyard is cleaned up.
    It isn't your place to judge whether he is honorable or not.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    June 4, 2014 10:15 a.m.

    Any of us would do what it takes to get the best out of a situation. I would leave my current job for a better one. But Fisher's difference is that he was under a contract, I'm not. We honor contracts, he doesn't. Rock's take on this is dead-on, somehow Fisher comes out of all this unscathed. The majority of people would be marked for life if we were as dishonest and self-interest seeking as Fisher yet he's on the verge of a coaching deal in a major market. He hasn't had to earn his stripes. He got lucky to be on the Lakers and to be loved there, when the time was right he went back. And Phil Jackson happened to be the coach, now Phil is pulling him into his next gig. I've worked with lucky people like this and it drives me crazy, all the benefits without working the way up the ladder like the rest of us.

  • jbe Salt Lake City, UT
    June 4, 2014 10:06 a.m.

    I've always felt the same way about Fisher. I agree with Rock's perspective on the offcourt stuff but I also don't like the player he is (alluded to with the 30 minute 0-0-0 he put up).

    He seems almost as likely to hit a key 3 as he is to miss the basket by two feet. When asked during the playoffs how he missed so many open jumpers for the lakers a few years back, he blamed it on guys hitting his arms though he was always wide open. Most of all, his antics on defense where he is always trying to cause refs to call fouls by grabbing onto guys and flopping all over he place.

    I am equally flabbergasted as to why anyone would buy his line of bull but some appear blind to it or maybe they just consider him a great tactician with no moral hang ups. Maybe that's good for a head coach but I agree that there is no substance to him and that his true colors will be revealed running a team.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    June 4, 2014 10:04 a.m.

    sounds like crying over spilled milk to me, what Fisher did here was done years ago and by rehashing it you can bring up bad feelings.

    Be glad he is not being asked to be the Jazz coach, although with the current GM nothing is out of the question. Fisher might be the only candidate who is less popular than the old U of U coach.

    The Jazz say they are going to pick the coach maybe after the draft as they like to do things by comittee yet I see no comittee on the bench during the game, no comittee during the press conference after a loss and no comittee being fired after bad seasons.

    In order for the comittee idea to work they have to have skin in the game. Lindsay is having everyone (short of a coach) agree on the players to choose and then they will all be in agreement when the team stinks it is the coaches fault.

    I wonder what would happen if after the first loss the coach would say to the press, "these new players stink I don't know why anyone would choose them"

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    June 4, 2014 9:36 a.m.

    I would say manipulative and disingenuous all tied up in a slick bow.

  • Ed Grady Idaho Falls, ID
    June 4, 2014 8:51 a.m.

    The guy is phony - just say it.

  • gehelmke Bastrop, TX
    June 4, 2014 8:29 a.m.

    The guy is basically dishonest...He doesn't deserve the attention he's getting.

  • tomo keystone heights, fl.
    June 4, 2014 5:19 a.m.

    He certainly has lived a charmed life, hasn't he? A kind of Fisher King,if you will. If karma does exist however, his stint as a coach or GM will be short-lived...

    June 3, 2014 11:41 p.m.

    Very good article and great comments above. Fisher, although he handles himself outwardly with class, is obviously about doing what's best for himself, regardless of how it affects the team that he is contractually obligated to. What he did to the Jazz in order to get out of his contract still stings.

    Rock hit it right on concerning the irony of Fisher using his daughter to get out of his contract by saying that he would seek medical help in New York (although Salt Lake has a tremendous cancer treatment facility available here), and then signed with Los Angeles. And now lightning has struck twice, as evidenced by what he did to Dallas in order to play for a championship-contending team in Oklahoma City.

    Just like the expression "a leopard doesn't changes his spots," Derek Fisher will never change who he is or what he'll do to further himself.

  • Vladhagen Salt Lake City, UT
    June 3, 2014 11:35 p.m.

    As a big OKC fan I was not complaining when he signed with the Thunder. He has his bad side though, so from a view of Fisher on a personal level, he is a mixed bag.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    June 3, 2014 7:58 p.m.

    He'll be closer to medical people for his daughter...


  • ericNorCal San Jose, CA
    June 3, 2014 6:48 p.m.

    ROCK you are the MONSTER.... Thank you if I would have said this my wife would have said I am being crazy once again... Thank you for being right on TARGET of the ever elusive fisher..

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    June 3, 2014 5:51 p.m.

    Fisher is more like a lawyer who believes contracts are like works of art - they can mean anything you want! He knows the Collective Bargaining Agreement by heart because he helped write it. Its not surprising he squeezes through so many loopholes since he created most of them.

    I have every confidence Fish will "get his way" and be a head coach and he will be a complete disaster at it.

    A prerequisite for being a successful coach is to have the loyalty of your players. That requires trust, and Fish doesn't have much of a track record when it comes to earning that.