Celebrating Brigham Young's birthday

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  • antodav TAMPA, FL
    June 13, 2014 8:46 p.m.


    LOL. You are always amusing to see on these posts.


    “…we have sisters here who, if they had the privilege of studying, would make just as good mathematicians or accountants as any man; and we think they ought to have the privilege to study these branches of knowledge that they may develop the powers with which they are endowed. We believe that women are useful not only to sweep houses, wash dishes, make beds, and raise babies, but that they should stand behind the counter, study law or physic [medicine], or become good book-keepers and be able to do the business in any counting house, and this to enlarge their sphere of usefulness for the benefit of society at large.” —Brigham Young

    Celebrate him, indeed. Especially now, in the midst of so many false accusations against the church.

  • UT Brit London, England
    June 3, 2014 1:53 p.m.


    When people tell me to never question a church leaders words or actions
    I get worried. The prophet is a man who makes mistakes just like all the prophets who preceded him. I am talking about doctrinal mistakes here.

  • donn layton, UT
    June 2, 2014 12:51 p.m.

    @ the truth. God tells us to test is word to see if it is not true. A good tree will bear good fruit. A true prophet's word will also bear good fruit.
    ”Can you make a Christian of a Jew? I tell you Nay, If a Jew comes into this church ,and the blood honestly professes to be a Saint, a follower of Christ, and if the blood of Judah is in his veins, he will apostatize.”(JoD V. 2 p. 142). Brigham Young

  • brotherJonathan SLC, UT
    June 1, 2014 6:45 p.m.

    @ AerilusMaximus: We should never follow blindly anyone or any group. There are more examples of misconduct by Brigham Young. Just look up what he had to say about black people. It is no wonder they stopped receiving the priesthood. Would you have supported his views on that too?
    We need to follow the Lord's advice treat others as you would be treated and try to stay logical not emotional when making laws and policy to govern others.
    I love our church and it is here to stay. If we ask our leadership the right questions? They will ask God and correct our immoral path. We must ask. Did Brigham Young change God's revelation to Joseph Smith for mankind? It's not logical: now it is ok to drink coke, monster drinks, red bull and those are worse for you than coffee.
    If you drink coffee, (which I don't, I was raised LDS and have no desire to drink it)
    you are not worthy to take sacrament or go to the temple. That just shows what the word of wisdom truly is. It is advice not by commandment or constraint. Sheep don't think. Saints do.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    June 1, 2014 6:11 p.m.


    The answer to your question is found in the scriptures.

    God tells us to test is word to see if it is not true.

    A good tree will bear good fruit.

    A true prophet's word will also bear good fruit.

    You must also develop your level of intelligence, spirituality and faith, you can not always wholly rely on another's word (even a prophet does not know everything there is to know, they are imperfect people after all). But following great counsel is a start.

  • AerilusMaximus Berryville, VA
    May 31, 2014 8:36 p.m.

    @ Brother Jonathan "Blindly following even a prophet of God is not wise or righteous."

    It is A lot wiser and more righteous than following a lot of other people in the world.

    I notice you specifically used the word "blindly" what exactly does blindly mean to you?

    No one has perfect vision in this world so everyone is in one sense or another could be following "blindly" some aspect of the gospel.

  • Michigander Westland, MI
    May 31, 2014 12:59 p.m.

    The 200th birthday of William Bickerton, the true successor to Joseph Smith in the Church Presidency, will occur on Jan.15,2015.

  • brotherJonathan SLC, UT
    May 31, 2014 11:02 a.m.

    Brigham Young was a great man. He served the Lord Jesus Christ. But he was not perfect and like all men make mistakes. This means we must use our minds and hearts to judge everything we support for ourselves. Blindly following even a prophet of God is not wise or righteous.
    Joseph F. Smith, church historian documents: "Word of Wisdom" September 9, 1851, President Brigham Young stated that the members of the Church had had sufficient time to be taught the import of this revelation, and that henceforth it was to be considered a divine commandment. This was first put before the male members of the congregation and then before the women and by unanimous vote accepted.
    D&C:136 by Brigham Young: The word and will of the Lord (not revelation from God or Thus saith the Lord).. D&C 89, "Not by command or constraint"
    Revelations from God are not to be changed by man. D&C 124: 119-120
    Are we to believe our Lord made this blanket statement?
    You are worthy if a doctor prescribes drugs or alcohol and sinning and not worthy if you treat your own pain and suffering? God is logical.