Utah football player shocked to be named in manifesto of 22-year-old who authorities say killed 6 UCSB students

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  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    May 30, 2014 2:48 a.m.

    @ John Locke

    The shooter was suffering from Asperger Syndrome. He had issues with social interaction for his entire life, and was obviously not well mentally. Sadly, spending more time with their kid probably wouldn't have made much of a difference. It's too bad it had to end the way it did, and I think we're all sending our prayers to the victims and their families.

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    May 28, 2014 11:16 a.m.


    It's always someone else's fault. It's the movie industry. It's America. It's video games.

    Let it go. Violent games have always been popular even before we had electricity and will continue to be. What do you propose; we let Congress or some shadowy committee decide what games we can allow our kids to play?

  • HowbouthisJAZZ Saratoga Springs, UT
    May 28, 2014 9:21 a.m.

    I would not wish something like this on even my worst enemy. These poor families who have lost their loved ones. It's just senseless. It seems to me that every time something like this happens, it reminds us of the frailty that is this mortal life. A smile, a handshake, a look, or the lack there of. It's the little things that matter. This Rodger kid seemed to need a lot of those little things. He was starved for recognition. There is no condoning what this man did, and there was no way for lucky, and probably those who died in these acts if cruelty, to know they had offended this man. But this sad story calls into question our personal relationships in life and how our actions effect others. Please, do not get me wrong. Mr Rodger, and only Mr. Rodger is to blame for this tragedy. My question is how did his parents or family members not see this coming? Each and every one of us search for validation in our lives, but his family had to know something was not right long before this tragedy occurred. So sad.

  • John Locke Ivins, , UT
    May 27, 2014 4:44 p.m.

    Money can buy anything...except happiness, for oneself or for your children. It is not a substitute for spending time with your children. "I gave him everything," is not the same as "I spent much of my free time with him."

    This kid is a product of his life of indulgence by his parents and stepmother. If they had given him responsibility instead of allowing him to "play games," all of the time, he might have appreciated where all of the money came from.

    Driving a BMW and living in a posh area of California didn't help him at all. He needed to earn his way to feel some confidence in himself, and, meet other people who were not at the same financial level as himself.

    I feel sorry for the families that had to suffer because he was not a responsible individual, nor, apparently, were his parents, with him, leaving him alone most of the time.

    Lucky, was just that, Lucky that he could avoid a friendship with him and be dragged into his fantasy world as a youth.

  • Rockyrd Gilbert, AZ
    May 27, 2014 11:58 a.m.

    I would like some enterprising reporter to investigate the link between these mass murderers and violent video games. Is there a connection? I'd bet on it.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    May 27, 2014 10:40 a.m.

    We all need to look with compassion on everyone around us and not assume that they're all doing fine. It's a shame that Rodgers had this pressure and loathing building up year after year, but we all need to be conscious of the needs of those around us, even if we don't think there's anything wrong. What an unfortunate situation.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    May 27, 2014 10:30 a.m.

    Nothing I can say that hasn't been said, just a sad thing that you can blame others for your pathetic life, but hopefully Radley can put this sick individual out of his mind and keep living his life like he should, not his fault this kid is messed up.

  • zashin Tooele, UT
    May 27, 2014 10:22 a.m.

    It's all too easy to point a finger at society at large. I agree with Wilf that Radley is not a victim here though of course he is shook up to find himself mentioned on this list. Who wouldn't be? Rodgers clearly needed some counseling at the very least and at an early age. Cougsndawgs has it summed up pretty well. I hope Radley will not let it get in his head too much though I don't know how I would process that myself, if it were me.

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    May 27, 2014 9:43 a.m.

    Wilf 55:

    "Radley is the victim of an American culture which is too focused on popularity: winning, awards, prizes, success . . it can lead to morbid jealousy . . the American dating system in particular can lead to immense frustrations for the 'unpopular kid' . . In most of the rest of the world young people go out in groups and have fun together without a premature focus of one on another, which excludes a third."

    Radley is a "victim"? Really? He was mentioned by this psycho and is rightly disturbed by the fact, but to call him a victim is to basically strip the word of all meaning.

    And the "Blame America" sentiment? Puh-leeeeze. The pursuit of athletic/academic achievement is not an American invention, nor are jealousy and frustration over girls. Are we to believe that the jock doesn't get more female attention in other countries? Absurd.

    Funny you complain about the lack of "group activities" for young people in America. It seems I'm seeing a lot of articles/comments about the lack of actual dating in favor of too much "hanging out," which sounds like what you're pining for. I'm confused.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    May 27, 2014 9:19 a.m.

    Radley is fortunate to have a team/family around him to turn to. This has to be tough. Put this behind you and move forward, young man...your future is bright.

    West Point , UT

    Always a first class and honest comment. We could all learn to post more responsibly from your example. Thank you.

  • ulvegaard Medical Lake, Washington
    May 27, 2014 9:15 a.m.

    I am a bit confused by some of the comments here which point a finger at the worth or worthlessness of athletics. Personally, i'm not into sports all that much, but I don't harbor ill will at those who are - just different tastes.

    What we are dealing with here is someone who, for what ever reason - probably a mental illness - though even that is a broad explanation, set out on a mission to kill people. That people were on a target list should not imply anything other than they were on a list that might have had and did have serious repercussions. In the end, the objective is to look for ways to avoid such tragedy in the future; not to point fingers at those who might have come into contact with the aggressor for how ever brief a moment in time.

  • EnglishAlan Rugeley, Staffs
    May 27, 2014 7:25 a.m.

    @Hutterite, I am sorry, but I could not disagree more. The fact that millions of people turn up to watch athletes perform on a regular basis proves that it has its place. The fact that it gives great kids from poor neighbourhoods a chance to change their lives in ways that they might never otherwise have proves that it has its place. The fact that it provides an ability to showcase one's ability and use God-given talent proves it has its place.

    Where I would agree with you, I think, is that it should never be used in a way that demeans another. That is also the same with brains, good looks, or any other talent we may have though.

    The tragedy in all of this is the taking of the lives of these young people. (I incude Mr Rodgers in that statement of regret, as he sounds as though he was unsuccessfully fighting an illness. We always look in a kindly manner upon cancer sufferers, and yet forget that mental illness is also worthy of compassion. God bless all of the families concerned.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    May 27, 2014 7:24 a.m.

    We should no longer give a voice to these mass murderers. It would be far better that they remain nameless and only the victims be remembered. The fame was why this man killed. He wasn't mentally ill. He was pure hatred. The media including this newspaper should strike his name from all reports and let his hatred fade away into the dust along with all the ilk like him.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    May 27, 2014 6:52 a.m.

    I feel sad for the families of all the victims of that troubled young man. Also sad that Mr. Radley's brief association with the killer is singled out as partly the reason for his extreme hate and jealousy. I hope Mr. Radley would not loose any sleep over it and continue to focus on his own goals and plans for the future. He seems to be a fine young man with a bright future at Utah and as a member of the Utes' football team.

    Good luck in the future, Mr. Radley!

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    May 27, 2014 6:48 a.m.

    @Cougsndawgs 9:28 p.m. May 26, 2014

    Escellent analyis and comment. I think you're exactly right in every regard. It saddens me that Radley had to get caught in the blow-back from a truly sick individual's actions.

  • Wilf 55 SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    May 27, 2014 1:30 a.m.

    Radley is the victim of an American culture which is too focused on popularity: winning, awards, prizes, success... It's embedded in our system from the earliest age on. To a certain extent it can be motivating, if kept within bounds, but it can also lead to morbid jealousy. As the Rodgers tragedy shows, the American dating system in particular can lead to immense frustrations for the "unpopular kid". In most of the rest of the world young people go out in groups and have fun together without a premature focus of one on another, which excludes a third.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    May 27, 2014 12:39 a.m.

    Cougsndawgs - well said. Exactly what I was going to post.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    May 26, 2014 11:34 p.m.

    That's crazy.

    Don't let it phase you Lucky. Keep your head up, and keep moving forward. LGI

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    May 26, 2014 9:28 p.m.

    I don't blame him at all...I'd be pretty freaked out too! Especially when you have no idea that this kid you barely knew had such animosity toward you. Bottom line is this Rodgers guy never fit in and felt ostracized or belittled by society and probably picked out guys he was jealous of to project his hatred on, when the person he probably hated most was himself...sad. I wish Radley the best in overcoming the heartache and loss felt by his community.