Cutting off unemployment benefits may lead to employment

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  • ordinaryfolks seattle, WA
    May 25, 2014 5:42 p.m.

    There is no good result in blaming immigrants, or past government policies for the current unemployment rates. Our economy has changed from the old industrial model to a consumer spending based society. Unfortunately, this new consumer based economy places low price points for both goods and labor. We shop for the cheapest price for our groceries and (if you are an employer) the least possible rate of pay for an employee. Nothing proposed so far by commenters here or elsewhere is going to change that dynamic.

    It is inevitable that higher rates of unemployment will follow this economic model, particularly among the older and the less skilled in the labor pool. And sadly, these are amongst the most economically vulnerable.

    To call for an end to unemployment compensation for this cadre of people is callous. While there are exceptions to be sure, most people want to work for their money. A decent job gives people dignity. Blaming people for not finding that work or that decent job does nothing to lift people up.

  • aceroinox Farmington, UT
    May 25, 2014 1:42 p.m.

    Small business is the engine of our economy. It think it's a huge mistake that the government not only does not provide incentives for the unemployed to launch their own business, but cuts off unemployment payments as soon as someone creates a business. Why not maintain eligibility during the planning and launch phase of a small business, which may provide income for the business owner but also may very well provide jobs for others?

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 25, 2014 1:31 p.m.

    Cut unemployment totally!

    All it does is punish the working people.

  • DVD Taylorsville, 00
    May 25, 2014 1:10 p.m.

    When your safety net is gone, and you are homeless, the chances of being hired go way down compared to those that can remain acceptably put together because they still have a safety net of financial aid to do it.

  • micki Sebastopol, CA
    May 25, 2014 12:56 p.m.

    I can't believe the callousness of this article! It is like saying that cutting off FOOD will get people to be better cooks! I have personally known too many people in the last few years who have struggled and struggled to find a job, any job! Even a job at a fast food franchise, but then they'd have to get two or even three jobs, forget about sleeping! so they can support their live in a country where hard working people are homeless, living in their cars, even giving up their children to the authorities because wages are so low that no one can live on them, and this is just for those who HAVE jobs. This is an outrage. It is only adding salt to the gaping wound of hopelessness, food insecurity, and desperation, to imply that cutting off the only difference between eating or starving will "motivate" these people to get that do not exist!

  • Willem Los Angeles, CA
    May 25, 2014 12:53 p.m.

    But they and their kids could also starve to death from hunger.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    May 25, 2014 8:36 a.m.

    The GOP, mostly funded by the Koch bros, wants Americans to live like slaves. If they can get them to give up the hope to ever obtain a good job again and to work at a min wage job, then their mission is accomplished!

  • ElmoBaggins Escalante, UT
    May 25, 2014 7:37 a.m.

    Where are the "job creators"?republicans yap about how they need special concessions for business so they can create where are they?Fact is,there's. Even endless talk and tax breaks but no long do they think this subterfuge will work?

  • Eliyahu Pleasant Grove, UT
    May 25, 2014 7:01 a.m.

    Before we insist that everyone can get a job if they try hard enough, keep in mind that full employment is neither possible nor desirable. A zero rate of unemployment would result in economic stagnation as employers would be unable to expand due to a total lack of workers. Similarly, no one could create new jobs because there wouldn't be any labor pool from which to draw workers. (On the other hand, it would tend to create a worker's paradise as wages would have to be extremely competitive to retain employees because if someone quits, the company can't find a replacement.)

    For those who think unemployment lets people live in comfort without working, remember that it's only a fraction of what they'd been paid in their last job. Few people will willingly take a major pay cut to avoid working, especially those who'd been living from paycheck to paycheck already.

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    May 24, 2014 11:13 p.m.

    @Dnsubscriber. I go to work for money, period. If you were making six figures, what pride is there in working for minimum wage or ten dollars a hour? I would rather let the state have their unemployment and just stay home.

  • Brer Rabbit Spanish Fork, UT
    May 24, 2014 8:24 p.m.

    As some of the comments have said, there aren't enough jobs. That means that there is a large labor surplus. This labor surplus causes unemployment and depressed wages. The laws of supply and demand apply to labor the same as anything else.

    Since there is a labor surplus why are many of the politicians supporting a continued flood of legal and illegal labor? The answer can't be that they are supporting the American workers. The president and many politicians are even calling for a 100% increase in the minimum wage even in the face of a large labor surplus.

    The law of supply and demand cannot be repealed. A high minimum wage is very similar to the rent and price controls back in the late 1970s that didn't work. The best thing that the government could do to reduce unemployment and increase wages would be to stop the flood of cheap legal and illegal immigrant labor that is in competition with the American workers.

    A large reduction in cheap immigrant labor would cause the job market to tighten and wages increase. Both political parties and presidents of the last three decades have sold out the American Workers.

  • gmlewis Houston, TX
    May 24, 2014 8:21 p.m.

    @vern001 - I agree with you. I was 52 the last time I was laid off work, and it took four months of very active searching (and much prayer) before I was able to find a job in my professional field. It would have been much, much longer if that professional field were dwindling.

    However, I did not get any unemployment because I misunderstood how to apply for them. For months they kept telling me to wait, and finally told me that I had forgotten one item on my application form that was required. By then, I had already been accepted in my new job.

    It is not true that your former employer pays for your individual unemployment checks. These checks come from a general state fund, and the former employer's unemployment insurance rate is raised for years to come. The former employer ends up paying far more into the general fund than you received from your unemployment benefits.

  • Schnee Salt Lake City, UT
    May 24, 2014 7:48 p.m.

    @DN Subscriber
    "Hunger is a powerful motivator"

    That's kinda morbid.

    @Rosa Maria
    "logic tells me that if I receive free things I will become lazy. "

    Depends on how much free stuff you receive vs how much stuff you need. Typically it's not a sustainable long term strategy.

    "The big giant Obama care is one of that big program that would put Americans in deep poverty. "

    The same Obamacare that conservatives frequently say is just a handout to people (via the subsidies and Medicaid expansion)? Either it's helping the poor in a way you don't like, or it doesn't, you all can't claim both.

  • RosaMaria Laie, HI
    May 24, 2014 5:12 p.m.

    What argument is that? I don't hold a PhD, but logic tells me that if I receive free things I will become lazy. There are hundreds of money that politicians miss used. There are so many red tape stopping the creation of jobs. The big giant Obama care is one of that big program that would put Americans in deep poverty. We need to FIRE the politicians and the studious who write these papers. Bogus! Bogus! Bogus studies! Give the American people jobs instead of easy money and they will work. I hope Americans realized there are another country that will accept them as illegals when they travel to another country looking for a job. We better fix our problem now. No easy money to any one, let's star with the politicians.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    May 24, 2014 5:05 p.m.

    Of course, cutting unemployment benefits will cause people to accept ANY job, even if it's a horrible job, just to pay some bills. But they might not then have the time to seek out a job they want and for which they are qualified.

    And others who can't find a job will literally beg, borrow, or steal to make ends meet.

    I'm not suggesting that people receive perennial unemployment benefits, but they should receive benefits long enough so they can look for a decent job.

    It would be wrong to eliminate unemployment benefits.

  • prelax Murray, UT
    May 24, 2014 3:16 p.m.

    Cutting off benefits didn't help 76% find work. The problem is lack of jobs available to citizens. We have flooded our labor market, and no one wants to admit it.

  • Cincinnatus Kearns, UT
    May 24, 2014 1:57 p.m.

    I lost my job last year.

    I got a small severance and my accrued vacation that allowed me a buffer period to look for work before I was even eligible to apply for unemployment.

    Though I applied to a lot of employers that were looking for experience similar to mine, where I was overqualified, or where I barely qualified, I didn't get interviews. I took a seasonal job (Christmastime) that paid roughly half of what I'd made previously- problem was, the hours it required in November and December, I couldn't apply for jobs because I wouldn't have been able to make it to interviews. I was making too much to receive unemployment, but even with some overtime, not making nearly what I'd made previously.

    When the seasonal job ended, I started applying again (while receiving unemployment). I finally got ONE interview. ONE in almost 8 months. I was offered a job, and took it, even though I would be making less than my pervious job.

    For those being judgemental, like DN Subscriber, this "recovery" isn't the same as previous ones. Jobs that pay the bills are hard to come by and interviews hard to get.

  • vern001 Castle Rock, CO
    May 24, 2014 12:17 p.m.

    There are now roughly between 3 and 5 unemployed people applying for every one job opening. This one data point proves that people aren't sitting around scratching their bellies at taxpayer expense. This has been called a "jobless recovery" for a reason. There just aren't enough jobs for everyone, and the jobs that have been gained are largely low skill, low wage jobs.

    So let's stop demonizing the unemployed and depicting them as lazy moochers. Try losing your job at 52 and see what kind of opportunities come your way. Automotive workers, textile workers, programmers, lawyers, and customers service reps are among the people whose jobs have left the shores of this country and will probably never come back.

    I've met so many complacent, judgmental individuals--until they lose their jobs, their healthcare, and their homes. Then they're all in favor of social programs. Why not be charitable before that happens to you?

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    May 24, 2014 11:39 a.m.

    I've got some good news and some bad news. Cutting off unemployment benefits for the chronically employed lowers the unemployment rate. To be eligible for benefits you have to be actively looking and apply for jobs. If you cut off those benefits, they drop out of the labor force and go onto some other kind of welfare.

  • Oh Really? HERRIMAN, UT
    May 24, 2014 9:38 a.m.

    Cutting off unemployment benefits has several positive effects:

    - Since the unemployment benefits are paid by the previous employer, it frees up funds for that employer to hire someone else.
    - While many receiving benefits legitimately need them and qualify for them, others do not. Many unemployed people apply for jobs they aren't qualified for in order to meet the "application" requirement so they can continue to receive benefits. When those people stop receiving benefits, they get serious about finding a job.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 24, 2014 9:23 a.m.

    "Unemployment insurance" is welfare with a less judgmental sounding name.

    Intended as a life net, it has become a hammock for a large portion of our population who find it preferable to simply collect welfare (in all of its varied forms) than to find a job and actually earn a living.

    One of the biggest problems is that people refuse to work at any job they do not like, and continue to get paid for doing nothing.

    Hunger is a powerful motivator, and perhaps if welfare were cut, some of the unemployed would decide that "menial" jobs, or ones requiring physical effort were acceptable after all. Such jobs exist and are largely filled by foreign workers today, who are glad to be earning a wage doing any job because it supports their families. There is cause for pride in doing a job, any job, well. And, dong one job well opens opportunities for better paying jobs- if people actually want to work.