I thought a conservative was for smaller government. Based on Sen. Hatch's
comments and actions over the last several months he supports candidates who
want to continue to grow government. Not a conservative!
I may be branded to have a certain proclivity of party support. However, based
upon my own research of Sen. Hatch's record, I would have to say that Mr.
Hatch has become more of a RINO than the true conservative that I had previously
admired during his early days as a Senator from Utah. Many of our
representatives in Washington, on both sides of the isle, have more personal
interests at heart than actually working for their constituents. Ambrose Pierce said it best: "Politics: A strife of interests masquerading
as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private
advantage." I believe that when parties from either side of the
isle get together to bring about bi-partisan bills, both have devised how it
will best suit them. The responsibility of an elected official is to defend and
support the needs of the State he/she represents and to defend and support the
Constitution. Our founding fathers wanted a small federal government. My
question is twofold and simple: What have these bills done for the people of
Utah and the general population of the United States in reducing government?
Today I see where Orin Hatch is caving in and suggesting that gay marriage is
inevitable. I couldn't care less that Hatch personally opposes gay marriage
- what I DO CARE ABOUT is that Hatch fights to STOP gay marriage in every way
possible...but that isn't what you get with Orin Hatch. What you get with
Orin Hatch is someone who shurgs his shoulders and votes with his buddies on the
left side of the isle just to get along. So again - passing bills means
NOTHING!!! I would rather have a senator pass ZERO bills but be on the right
side of the issue s.
Applause to ECR's insightful comment above. This is a wonderful opinion
article that provides a succintly articulated and much needed refresher course
on civics. Kudos!
re:LDS LiberalMike Lee is doing what we elected him to do. Had we
wanted more good-ole-boy bills passed we would have left Bob Bennett in. We
didn't - we booted Bob out the door because we were done with a guy who
voted with Democrats and stood for nothing conservative. The state of Utah is
mostly conservative and Bob was NOT representing the people of Utah. When you
have a radical leftist in the White House and you have a senate run by another
leftist radical (Harry Reid) it sort of makes sense you aren't going to
pass alot of bills unless you are willing to cave to Harry and Barack. Right?
Mike is NOT going to cave. We elected him to stand for something and if that
means his main job for now is to OPPOSE the run-a-way train of liberal
progressive insanity then that is his job. It is FAR FAR better to STOP a bad
bill than put your name behind a BAD bill just to say you passed something.
There is a reason we have brakes on a car and not just an accelerator.
Sen. Orrin Hatch = 754Sen. Mike Lee = 0enough said.
Hatch is a moderate who is very cozy with his buddies on both sides of the isle
as was Bob Bennett. Hatch is NEVER mentioned in the press because he never makes
waves - he is there to get along and go along and that's it. Hatch
want's the status-quo and will never ever do anything to upset that. So if
you like how things are running in the country right now then you will like all
of Hatch's bills. On the other hand if you see most of congress
right now as THE most incompetent , corrupt, self serving bunch of carpet
baggers ever to serve then you certainly don't want what Orin is doing. You
want men and women who will stand for something - not just to get along and go
along but to actually STOP the momentum of this run-a-way progressive train and
turn it before it launches over the fiscal cliff and past the point of no
Hatch co-sponsored many bills with Ted Kennedy. Enough said.
Just because you pass a law does not make it a good law...
Does quantity equate to quality?
Senator Hatch understands how our government process should work. Our founding
fathers established our Constitution on the principle of fair compromise. That
does not mean they expected to get their way on every issue, but were willing to
listen to both sides of an argument and make the best decision for the common
good. That is something that is lost today in Congress with the influence of
the tea party and especially our junior senator Mike Lee.
I can't understand why the D-news is running articles about Hatch, he
isn't up for re-election for 4 more years?
I cannot fault Senator Hatch for his ability to reach across the aisle; it is a
trait sadly lacking in today's Congress. But the sheer volume of sponsored
bills speaks to a point I have been trying to make for years: Senator Hatch is
remarkably un-selective about what he attaches his name and reputation to. Yes, over the years there have been some good pieces of legislation
passed. But there is a shockingly large set of bad bills with Senator
Hatch's name attached to them, and we the willing Republican voters of Utah
kept giving him a pass on all those bad choices every six years.Orrin has said that he is retiring. Let us all hope that he keeps his word.
Wow...Great commendation from a leading regional newspaper...The information contained in this piece should help Orrin continue to
get re-elected...Again and again and again...Of course
as long as he has the R next to his name...His chances of getting
re-elected are almost 100%.So...Orrin...don't make this term
your last rodeo...Even if you've indicated it is...Vote for Hatch...A true non-partisan.
Great he passed 754 bills most of which we probably didn't need.
Don't judge a rep on how many bills he has passed but on his voting record.
90% of the bills they pass are worthless or damaging.
Everything is relative,and if the alternative is Mike Lee he looks fantastic.
Utahns have seen what the alternative is if we let a small handful of radicals
take control. %80 of us prefer another Senator Hatch to the disaster that has
been the Lee experiment.
So Reagan said the "person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a
friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor?"And
that's supposed to be a wise saying?Reagan was wrong at least
80% of the time, especially on important issues. If Orrin Hatch agreed with
Reagan 80% of time, that would make him wrong at least 64% of the time.Hmmm, that seems like a lot. If we extrapolate from that and assume
Hatch has been wrong about everything for at least 64% of the time, then that at
least 474 of the bills he made into law are bad laws.That's not
good, is it?Well, at least he seems to be trying. I don't think
he is knowingly trying to harm America (by proving just how bad government can
be) like his government-hating Tea Party colleagues.
Isn't passing more laws a bad things for someone who believes in less
Lost in DC tells us "The virtues the Founders sought to foster –
minimizing factions & partisan rancor, seeing others’ points of view,
be willing to compromise, not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, etc.
– have been tossed aside in favor of absolute control"What
Disney version of history did you gist this from? Have we forgotten the
Burr–Hamilton duel? The duel was the result of "a long conflict
between Democratic-Republicans and Federalists. The conflict began in 1791 when
Burr captured a United States Senate seat from Philip Schuyler, Hamilton's
father-in-law, who would have supported Federalist policies." The constitutional congress was hardly free of "factions & partisan
rancor". Adams had to flee Philadelphia as president for fear of being
tarred and feathered... he recounts the experience in a letter to Jefferson.I am not sure what the source of this utopian version of history, but
they disagreed, argued, fought, and even dueled.Hatch has been
successful because unlike some he isn't keeping score in some mythical game
between Democrats and Republicans. You can disagree on politics and policy, and
still work toward mutually agreeable solutions. This fictionalized history is
The hard core right wingers take the position that compromise is a bad thing and
is capitulation. That is ridiculous and ludicrous. Without compromise, we
would not have the Constitution, and it goes from there. Hatch has been at his
best when he legislates instead of postures to appease his right wing
supporters. It astounds me that some would rather see nothing come from
Congress rather than incremental or even bold action to address the multitude of
issues we face as a nation. The far right would rather see the nation fall as
long as they get their way. And then they wave the flag and get all weepy about
the Constitution and the Founding Fathers. This is incredulous! Don't
they bother to think things through, or are they only driven by emotion
He needs to be a tea party one hundred percent naysayer all the time and try to
get on FOX news to get any credit in Utah.
Today's GOP is largely ignorant of how our government was designed to
function. The virtues the Founders sought to foster – minimizing factions
& partisan rancor, seeing others points of view, willing to compromise, not
letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, etc. – have been tossed
aside in favor of other “virtues.” Things like…Believing that unless a law is 100% what you want, it is bad.Believing the other side is evil and secretly wants to destroy the republic.Believing there is no other legitimate point of view.Compromise = capitulationCombine all this with lots of angry
“all or nothing” rhetoric along with a generous dose of religious
fervor about how we are “losing our way” and the country is
“in deep trouble” and you get what we have today… a movement
wholly incapable of governing a modern diverse society. However
these traits all work wonderfully in a small tribe where you are king and
especially if you can get the religious leaders to tell everyone that your views
are “divinely inspired.”
Excellent essay. And Congratulations to Senator Hatch for this distinction. A
former neighbor of mine has worked for Senator Hatch for most of the past 25
years and I asked him once - when the Democrats had control of the House and the
Senate - how it was that Senator Hatch and Senator Ted Kennedy got along so well
and co-sponsored some significant bills together. He said that Senator Hatch,
and I suppose Senator Kennedy as well, saw the wisdom in working together,
rather than fighting each other, and that way most of what each of them wanted
would be included in the bill. A partial victory is better that no victory at
all.Certainly both sides of the aisle and the White House should
take heed to this approach because it reflects a time when things got done in
Congress. The extreme voices that exist there today have brought progress in
the Congress to a grinding halt. In the past, presidents from both parties have
benefited from the spirit of compromise. But the last 6 years have provided an
illustration of the opposite approach. Heaven help us.
For many years I supported Orrin Hatch and thought he was a great conservative
representative of the people of Utah. It was for that reason I voted for him in
the most recent election. I am saddened to learn I made a big mistake in voting
for him this time. Nearly every vote he has cast this term has been contrary to
my conservative values. I guess when you reach your last term you feel
comfortable uncovering your true nature you have been hiding all these years.Sorry to see a great man fizzle in the end.
Perhaps the article could highlight some of the many laws that Senator Hatch has
had a hand in being enacted.Just being part of the federal law
making cabal may not be such a feather in one's cap if we review tho law(s)
and impact upon our lives. IMO the senior senator has stayed way
beyond his time and is part of what some would consider the problem with
Washington. Ego, entitlement and establishment seem to come to mind when I
picture him. Has the senator ever supported or voted to rescind any
legislation that clutters the books? Just curious.
It would be interesting to see a year by year breakdown. I would bet his yearly
"average" has declined sharply during the last 6 years.