Brad Rock: Luckless Jazz have too many options

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  • Captain L Provo, UT
    May 23, 2014 8:54 p.m.

    I don't know what the Jazz want to do with Favors and Kanter, if they want to keep both and think they can coexist and perform at a high rate then I wouldn't take Vonleh or Randle , I would go with Gordon or Saric, that being said the Jazz may be able to move down and get more assets and still get those two I mentioned. Gordon is soo interesting, he is a great athlete, does so many things well but shooting and that could be a deal breaker. He is a hard worker with a great motor , so maybe, Karl Malone wasn't a good shooter out of college but nobody outworked Karl. If Gordon will work as hard as Malone he can fix his shot. Saric is not the athlete but he is very talented, smart, and a leader with great skills, especially for a 6'10 player, he's a good passer, which is a trait I love, he makes others better.

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    May 21, 2014 11:47 p.m.


    Thanks for the history lesson. I'm sure we've all forgotten about those draft picks that happened 30 yrs ago. On the other hand, our more recent draft picks have been #3 Kanter, #3 Favors, and #9 Hayward which have all turned out to be superstars right ? Come back to reality with the rest of us. The draft lottery was definitely a big loss for the Jazz. Hopefully, Dennis Lindsey will be able to package our picks with other assets to move up in the draft.

  • DEW Sandy, UT
    May 21, 2014 6:50 p.m.

    Just wondering, if the Jazz would have the first pick, which player will they get? Lottery need to go away.

  • 32843 PROVO, UT
    May 21, 2014 4:24 p.m.

    Brad Rock, are you kidding me? You'd complain if you lost out on a date with Miss America and had to "settle" for a date with the 5th runner up!

    So, the Jazz are luckless because they didn't get the first pick or remain at the #4 pick? Oh, woe is us! We must suffer through another draft with only the number 5 and 23 picks in a draft purportedly to be as deep with talent as it ever has been. I suppose it's too much to ask if Rock can remember who the Jazz drafted at the #16 spot in the 1984 or the the number 13 spot in 1985 NBA draft? Stockton and Malone. Two NBA Hall of Fame players who were not drafted in the top 10 of their respective drafts. Yeah, those two were sure a bust, weren't they?

    So, I can understand why there is such weeping and wailing because with only the 5th, 23 and 35 pick the Jazz won't find anything more than a journeyman player because there are only four real prospects with superstar potential.

    Luckless Jazz indeed.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    May 21, 2014 3:42 p.m.

    Getting Randle at 4 or 5 is still a win-win....and if he joins the Church, Jazz just won the lottery!

  • mstar Kaysville, UT
    May 21, 2014 2:37 p.m.

    This is a huge loss for the Jazz. They could get lucky and pick someone that no one thought would be great. That is unlikely. This is a good draft, but only 4 great prospects. Jazz picking at 5th guarantees they will be stuck in mediocrity for a long time. It's still near impossible to get quality free agents to come to Salt Lake. The draft was their best chance and now it is over. Oh well, we have the Utes. Oh, they don't have a chance either.

  • truth in all its forms henderson, NV
    May 21, 2014 1:51 p.m.

    @ guam_bomb Actually one of those number one picks did a lot for them. Lebron James took them to the finals.

  • Cougar11 Highland, UT
    May 21, 2014 1:05 p.m.

    I'm sad.

  • rsrino Orem, UT
    May 21, 2014 1:02 p.m.

    The implication is that any pick below the top three cannot be a superstar. I remember when Karl Malone was drafted with the 13th pick. I also remember when John Stockton was drafted with the 16th pick. The draft is a crap shoot and there are more than three players that will be strong players in the league.

  • Promethean Richfield, UT
    May 21, 2014 12:58 p.m.

    It appears I'll finally have to break down and offer my services as a luck-filled team representative when our next lottery pick opportunity happens via the ping-pong balls.

    It's obvious a change is needed from always sending one of the Millers. Money doesn't always equate to luck. We've been fortunate just to hold a previous slot, let alone move up. Sad, but true. We literally had a 10 times better chance at getting the #1 pick than Cleveland had, and look what happened!

    I'll be waiting to hear from you, Greg.

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    May 21, 2014 12:14 p.m.

    If this draft is really as deep as it's supposed to be, picking at five could still yield you a very good player, and there will be good options left at 23. Which, if any of these guys ends up as a franchise player for a contending team is anyone's guess. I'm not close to 100% sure on Parker, Wiggins, Gordon, Randle, etc as future superstars. Certainly they seem like they'll be at least very good pros, but perennial all-stars? You don't know. I don't know. The "experts" don't know. Certainly Cleveland doesnt' know (see last year's #1 pick).

    Hiring the right coach will likely have just as much effect, if not more, than the draft. Just do your homework, pick the best guy available, don't make any panic trades, and see what happens.

  • SaltyDog Rexburg, ID
    May 21, 2014 7:53 a.m.

    I was super bummed out by last night, and i hope they can trade up for Parker, but doubt that happens. If the stay at #5, i'd say Aaron Gordon or Julius Randle, and then maybe a Cleanthony Early or Kyle Anderson at #23.

  • RR_Xing San Diego, CA
    May 21, 2014 7:51 a.m.

    Lots of talk in the article about moving up in the draft; why not move down? Seems the Jazz have quite the youth movement, and it hasn't worked out well. Trade down for some quality veteran players!

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    May 21, 2014 4:57 a.m.

    I like the Jazz position at number five. It does provide options, although not the ones that was mentioned in the article. We have avoided the circus that will center around the Parker, Wiggins, Embiid sweepstakes and likely won't get Dante Exxom, a relatively unknown Australian. However, some of the most athletic players in combine history will be available such as Noah Vonleh and Zach Lavine. We should avoid Julius Randle who hasn't the athleticism of these others (plus we don't need him anyway) and focus on a position player at 23 which there should be several good options. If the Jazz pick right, they should find players that will very much complement what we already have. Granted they will be young, but the draft is for the future. With acquiring a couple of credible free agents, I think we should be fine this coming year.

  • Guam_Bomb BARRIGADA, GU
    May 21, 2014 12:26 a.m.

    If it's any consolation, the top pick hasn't done much for the Cav's.

  • THE MTN MAN Taylorsville, UT
    May 20, 2014 11:51 p.m.

    I'm not sure the Jazz get any better at all from this draft. The best players available are all post players, and the Jazz are already "developing" Favors and Kanter at those positions. No chance they make the playoffs (or even close) next season, unless they somehow talk their way into the Eastern Conference.

  • LVJazzFan Glendale, AZ
    May 20, 2014 11:42 p.m.

    Maybe whomever the Jazz pick at five in ten years in some draft re-do is the overall number one pick. Or maybe, like last year, the Jazz do whatever they do and some version of Michael Carter Williams makes everyone else look just plain stupid. The fact that Lindsey and all the other Jazz brass are tooting their horn for moving up to pick the third best PG in last years draft (I count Oladipo as a PG since that is what Orlando wants him to play) while leaving ROY Michael Carter Williams on the draft board an indication that the Jazz fail again.
    At least we have a second round pick, the Jazz always mine a gem in the second round.

  • LVJazzFan Glendale, AZ
    May 20, 2014 11:39 p.m.

    Even if the Jazz had received the first pick of the draft I am guessing they would have missed the boat on the best available. However I disagree with Rock that there are three sure fire can't miss players in this draft. Wiggins, Embiid, and Parker may all be yearly all stars, but they may also be complete flops or get injured and never live up to the hype. Consider Greg Oden, Michael Beasly or Hasheem Thabeet. All of these in the last few years were "can't miss" prospects whose career never took off. All three of this years fab frosh have glaring holes in their game (Wiggins doesn't take the big shot, Embiid has a bad back and Parker doesn't play D). What they do now that they are in the league will determine whether or not they become something special or just another millionaire who COULD have been huge.

  • Sneaky Jimmy Bay Area, CA
    May 20, 2014 10:20 p.m.

    Jazz can't even tank right. Look for a barely make or miss the playoffs kind of year.