I have a hard time that people really believe Hollywood is out to destroy
America. As if there is a cabal of men and women who meet in shady, smoke-filled
board rooms rubbing their hands together in glee at the success of their evil
plot. Each studio representative going over a list of values they will try to
destroy in the coming year and the rest cackling in pleasure as they picture all
the kids that will become degenerates because all the hidden, subtle, and overt
messages they put into their films. For generations these meetings have been
held, starting with tiny steps in the post war years, moving little by little,
all with the goal in mind of destroying American values. Or at least destroying
the values that some people feel are the "real" values because we all
know who those "other" values belong to in the end. It's a
conspiracy that involves tens of thousands - all with one single minded
obsession.At least that's how I imagine people picture it
There were some movies I enjoyed watching, in the old days, as almost community
events. There were large audiences compared to today and many movies that the
whole family could enjoy. Even crime movies, unsuitable for unaccompainied
children, were themselves void of the eff word and other offensive content and
yet the spirit of the events portrayed were not thereby wholly deficient. Maybe today's film industry is as bad, if not worse, than is
depicted on this thread; maybe the genre and their venues oudmoded and
unnecessary. One approach is to watch the best of old and new video (not all
being made for cinema audiences to begin with). We have good dvd players. blue
ray, three-D, and big screens produced for use in the home; the quality of which
was for a long time superior to what could be viewed at the cinema.Until we can watch, at cinemas (if we must view t hem there), cinematic-like
productions more to our taste and standards, why not use our money to purchase
such equipment and watch at home, avoiding often almost deserted, deafening and
sordid, theaters altogether.
"Irreplaceable," the recent film produced by Focus on the Family, is
rated PG. That an uber-Family Values, ultra-Christian organization
couldn't make their point without venturing of of G-rated territory says
I either watch the oldies, most of the time, or G and PG. I have not seen an R
in about 40 years, and have to admit, I did see a couple of X's in my early
adult. It was after that, I vowed to never see and R or worse again. I would
have to say that 1 out of every 200 movies I have seen is PG13.
The MPAA ratings are utterly worthless . . actually, I take it back.
They're counterproductive.Instead of acting as a parents'
guide (their ostensible purpose), the nonsensical and backwards methods of the
ratings board give incentives to studios to trim off bits and pieces of movies
to cram them into the right box. Thus you have material that is really meant for
mature audiences being edited juuuuuuuuust enough to fit into the PG-13 bucket,
which is the sweet spot as far as box-office goes. It's become a game of
"count the nipples and cuss-words, and measure the aterial spray."The G rating is pretty much irrelevant. Studios know if their movies
appear too self-consciously squeaky-clean, large chunks of potential ticket
buyers lose interest. Even PG movies these days have to be pretty innocuous. The
PG-13 parameters are, frankly, a puzzle.Want to know what
potentially offensive content is in a movie? Go to Kids In Mind (just Google
it). If you can't be bothered to do that and prefer to rely on the MPAA,
you're getting the murky, useless information you deserve.
To "Brave Sir Robin" you are wrong. Hollywood is not out there doing
what it takes to make money. They have devolved into self destructive
habbits.There are many studies out there showing that the biggest
money makers are the G and PG movies, and sometimes the PG13 movies. Knowing
that those more family friendly ratings are the biggest money makers, Hollywood
makes more R rated movies than any other type of movie. Since 1968 when the
MPAA began 55% of movies have been rated R. If Hollywood was really concerned
about making money I would expect there to be few R rated movies.
@ Brave Sir Robin,The only problem with the assumption that
Hollywood is just serving our desires is that the lower rated movies make more
money and yet Hollywood still doesn't make them as much as they do the
movies with more adult themes and violence. Something else is going on too.
Movies that entire families can enjoy together make vast sums of money but they
aren't made as often. I don't exactly know why they don't pursue
the $ more. I think it's because deep down the people who produce the
movies must make the movies for reasons that are mixed with monetary reasons.
Perhaps want to teach some point of view or perhaps see their "art" as
needing violence or sex or whatever for it to be "realistic". Or
perhaps they need the film to be a serious film to be considered for the coveted
Oscar and "G" movies aren't serious enough. I think the reasons
vary. But if it was just $, we'd see many more lower rated films than we
do right now. I suspect we'll see more in the future as the market
@Brave Sir Robin - I agree that Hollywood is just trying to make money by
catering to what the public wants to see. However, I think their own
predelictions color their perception of what the public wants. A moral,
non-violent, clean language representation of the world may seem very foreign to
I stay away where there is a chance the movie will be attended by children.
Let's hear it for non G rated movies, as well as peace and quiet.
@John Charity Spring"Modern Hollywood is a morally bankrupt,
morally bankrupt organization which is determined to destroy traditional
American values."Incorrect. Like all industries, Hollywood is
simply determined to make money. Whether they destroy American values or not is
not something Hollywood execs sit around pondering. I would argue that movies
are not capable of destroying traditional American values - only we the people
can do that. Movies are just pictures and words on a screen, not living
beings.Hollywood is just doing what will make money. There would be
more g-rated movies if there were more demand for them. If people would stand
up against screen violence, drug use, sex, etc., there would be more movies
without those things. But right now, that's what Americans want to see in
their movies - don't blame Hollywood for obliging.
I may be only one person, but I do not support the movie industry because I
don't agree with the standards (including violence)they portray. This
includes TV, video games, and books... saves me a lot of money on movie tickets,
big screen televisions and video games.
Modern Hollywood is a morally bankrupt, morally bankrupt organization which is
determined to destroy traditional American values. It should be no surprise that
it refuses to produce wholesome movies. Modern Hollywood would have
the public believe that drug use and deviant sexuality are not only acceptable,
they are desirable. Indeed, Hollywood has an open and stated agenda of
promoting substance abuse and immorality.Shame on the liberal
producers and directors who seek to destroy the souls of the American public.
They deserve swift and severe condemnation.
BYU TV has them all the time. Then there's "Granite Flats" the new
series from BYU TV (no, you don't have to be mormon to watch them)You can always check out old movies from your local library for free.
For anyone wanting to see "Adult G-rated" movies, they should go to
TCM.com. It is possible to view Turner Classic Movies over the Internet. If
your cable provider has TCM, you might want to subscribe to their monthly
listing of classic movies.
" . . . would the audience really stay away because of the rating?"I don't think audiences stay away because of the rating. I
don't. A good film is a good film.And if very few G-rated
movies are out there, that could be a huge untapped market now with huge
money-making potential.A person or organization with financial
wherewithal, who can gather together excellent writers to produce an excellent
script delivered by excellent actors, who give excellent performances under an
excellent director, who does an excellent editing job should be able to produce
a pretty good G-rated movie that people will want to watch.
Maybe it also shows that the movie rating system has grown up. While movies are
pushing boundaries in what they include the fact that the rating system has
matured must play a part here. As the article states, Planet of the Apes would
never earn a G rating today. I suppose it's ironic that the MPAA rating
system seems to be only hurting the movie industry by self-proclaiming that
there is very little fare appropriate for General Audiences. And for my
opinions, these ratings and the lack of G rated movies only serves to keep me
and my family away from it all; even if there is something more value-driven in
its presentation it's still probably not worth my time. Ah, progress.
I don't mind that G movies are rare, but I'd love to see more really
good PG movies being made.