To those who argue for increasing the minimum wage, aside from the excellent
points already given as to why that is never a good idea, I just want to ask the
proponents: Where do you think the money is going to come from? Every time
more-government liberals propose such things, it is as if the money to pay for
their bright ideas is supposed to magically appear. So, minimum wage increase
proponents, where is the money going to come from? How is this to be paid?
Right! The employer. The employer is not going to just absorb the new costs, so
where's that money going to come from? Right! Two sources: increase prices
for goods and services and/or decrease the number of employees. Either way, it
is not good.
Um, so the Deseret News is coming down on the side of schedule I cocaine use is
okay for gestating mothers...sorry, make that rich, white, religious gestating
mothers who can "get the good stuff" and not have to suffer from the
street drug being cut with dangerous additives.Not buying it.
Really, truly...not buying it.
People should not take from this that there are no ill effects from cocaine use
or addiction. When there is drug use or addiction it becomes the driving force
in a parent's day, not their children. The real problems are lack of jobs,
job development, jobs that pay a living wage, affordable education and job
training for young people, too many fathers and mothers who walk away from their
parenting responsibilities or are too young when they have children to support
and raise them. You can't just raise wages for everyone without also
expecting things on their end in the way of training, education, and job skills.
BYUand jazz, Some good thinking, but how do communities and society take the
slums out of people without taking them out of the slums, and won't it take
an awful lot of money, and won't that money have to come from tax payers,
and won't extreme right wing politics kill any program to assist the poor
and abate poverty. What are your thoughts. If you have some way to make it
work then I would like to contribute. Thx.
Grandma 20: You are correct in stating that drug addiction knows no class and it
is a sad reality that your grandson lives with. I do wonder which drug it was
that caused his issues. This study has limited their scope to Cocaine and
didn't mention anything about any other drug other than alcohol, such as
meth which can cause severe defects like you described. It is helpful to
understand which drugs hurt the baby and which ones don't.DN
Subscriber: you are correct in saying that poverty is not a disease. I
don't think this is as much of an issue of money (with respect to the
minimum wage debate going on here) as it is an issue of the "culture of
poverty." It has to deal more with their beliefs, attitudes, and behavior
than it does money. It just happens that individuals who are in poverty are more
likely to be less successful because of the culture they've been raised in.
The solution isn't to throw money and take people out of the
slums. The solution is to "take the slums out of the people and they take
themselves out of the slums."
What is also needed is a maximum wage
Question: How does following 124 "cocaine babies" over the past 25
years prove that cocaine doesn't cause brain damage? I respectfully
disagree with the study. Tell that to my nine-year old grandson (adopted) who
suffers from seizures because his birth mother was a drug addict. Drug
addiction knows no class -- rich or poor. Thank you.
Raising the minimum wage will do nothing.What will do something is
education and work. If people want to get out of poverty, they can learn the
skills necessary to get them better jobs thereby pulling themselves out of
poverty. Whe should have learned from almost 50 years of LBJ's
Great Society that the government never solved anything, and frankly, usually
makes things worse. The gap between rich and poor exists why? Because the
government allows it.
I stand corrected, the study took 25 years.
Households aren't expected to function or maintain on minimum wage.
It's a workforce entry pay. Get training or skilled BEFORE attempting the
start of a family. A little planning, forethought and direction is
required...just like everything else in life. BTW, poverty isn't
addictive... cocaine is!
Cocaine and poverty are both negatives. I fear both.
@U-tar: This was a 25 year study, not an 8 year study. Nothing about the
article said that drug use had no up-side. It just said that a 25 year study
concluded pregnant mother who uses cocaine is not going to cause brain damage in
the child. This is a good information. It means we should punish mothers for
damaging their children's brains because, in reality, they were not
damaging their brains by using cocaine during pregnancy.It seems
like you are saying the study is worthless because it doesn't conform to
what you thought you knew.
@U-tarYou keep telling yourself that. Sounds like you listened to all the
drug propaganda spouted by people with the full intention of spreading
dis-information. Drugs are not going away. It was a worth while study.
The article title is misleading. It's actually just exposure to cocaine (in
utero) that doesn't cause long-term brain damage. However, the actual use
of cocaine does indeed cause both short and long term neurological brain damage
to the user, as well as substantial detrimental physical effects. The temporary
"highs" are simply not worth the long-term negatives.@
Ranch:I'm a bit surprised by your statement today. You usually
do a bit more verifiable research of facts before committing a subject
statement. There are dozens of studies (and extensive analysis of those studies)
which all indicate a direct correlation to rising unemployment rates wherever
and whenever the minimum wage is raised. Thomas Sowell, a noted
African American economics professor has conducted extensive research on this
subject and has also come up with the same undeniable results. The DN comment
format doesn't allow the listing of online links or I would give you
several. However, you can google the appropriate key words to find and read the
results for yourself.
@ Ranch"That a higher minimum wage create higher unemployment is
a myth. It would create more spending power for those in need, higher spending =
more production required = more jobs created."You're
assuming ceteris peribus "all other things being equal or held constant"
Ranch, but that's a bigger myth than the myth of permanent unemployment. If
all else were held constant: if the current inflation was constant, if costs on
goods were constant, if taxes were constant, etc. etc. then yes, raising wages
would create more spending power = more production required = more jobs
created.That's a fantasy because all things are not held
constant.Raising wages = less cash flow/net profit = hours cut, jobs
cut & higher shelf costs on goods = inflation/devaluation of dollar =
poverty line raised on the dollar.In other words, the people whom
the minimum wage hike was supposed to bring out of poverty stay in poverty.Not that $12/hr @ 30/hrs week (the new full time) is enough to bring
someone out of poverty, especially families. That's still poverty level
Job loss from a minimum wage hike is real, but it's also a short-term
economic reaction. The real damage is felt in the long term: Higher
costs because of higher expenses on businesses, which means higher inflation.
This devalues the dollar and the "minimum wage" that was meant to keep
people out of poverty simply deceives them. They still remain in poverty.
What's worse, higher costs and inflation drags those currently living just
above the poverty level into poverty.That's the reality of the
minimum wage hike. It kills jobs. cut hours, causes inflation and devalues the
dollar. It puts more people into poverty than it brings out.Couple
that with Obamacare regulations and higher taxes and you have a recipe for GDP
It is not poverty, but bad choices on the parts of the parent(s) which cause the
poor performance by the children.They may not choose to be poor, but
they chose to bear children they could not properly support, most likely
unmarried, and with no real job skills, and often not much interest in a job by
the parent(s), and a similar lack of interest or skills in child-rearing, or
education for themselves or the children.Poverty is not a disease,
it is too often a chosen life style, albeit a very bad one.
Once again, a secular study vindicates the prophets. The breakdown of the
family is the cause of nearly all of society's ills. We are in the
unenviable position of the Nephites, and we are suffering similar fates.
new research funded by the drug cartels...ranch,higher minimum
wages will cost 500,000 jobs. source Congressional Budget Officeof
the 10 jurisdictions (9 states and DC) with the highest unemployment rates, all
but 2 have higher minimum wages laws. Of the 10 states with the highest
employment rates, only 1 has a higher minimum wage law. The state with the
lowest unemployment, North Dakota, has HIGHER average weekly salary than Ohio,
which has a higher minimum wage law. - sources Department of Labor and Bureau of
Labor Statistics.Creating more spending power for those in need,
higher spending = more production required = more jobs created. Source, ranch,
to align with his personal beliefs.
@ RG and Living Above the Lighthouse. You are completely correct.
Raising the minimum wage has never shown longterm benefits. It is troubling
that so many don't seem to understand the research and real-life results of
raising minimum wage. However, to those who do not want to cut government
spending/programs, it appears to be an easy fix.
An 8 year study, now that is the definition of brain damage. There is no upside
to drug abuse for anyone. It's a no brainer. Another wasteful study, the
money used for the study should have been used to help the children.
Also, higher minimum wage = higher prices - don't forget that, either.
@humbug;Raising the minimum wage takes money out of the pockets of
the wealthy.@RG;That a higher minimum wage create higher
unemployment is a myth. It would create more spending power for those in need,
higher spending = more production required = more jobs created.
to humbug: "So why are we so opposed to raising minimum wage? The effects on
the lives of people are real." One of these effects of raising
the minimum wage is more unemployment. The trouble with liberal solutions is
that they don't consider all the known and unknown, desired and undesired
effects. They only consider the known, desired effect.
So why are we so opposed to raising minimum wage? The effects on the lives of
people are real.