@DN Subscriber"We care about their policies on the issues. Mia Love is
right on just about every issue"Her opponents care about her
policies too... we just consider her wrong on just about every issue. @Riverton Cougar"I'm telling you that low-information voters
exist in large numbers (especially in very large cities)and they overwhelmingly
vote Democrat."If Democrats cleaned up among low-information
voters we'd have totally dominated the Mississippi vote. While we're
on the subject of identity politics, do you want to explain how Romney got
around 90% of the primary vote in a 4 person field in Utah in 2008 when he
didn't even end up becoming the nominee?
I was disappointed in the vote by the Republican delegates to support partisan
school board elections. Good grief....do we really need MORE politics in our
schools? I get that people who are Republican or Democrat have a
"philosophy" that is helpful in making decisions but come on
people...there is enough philosophy that comes out of the state legislature that
surely we don't need to hammer that in our school board contests.
Generally, people who are elected to school boards are trying to provide the
best education possible at a usually very low cost. The money comes from the
state and federal governments with incredible strings attached and hoops to jump
through..adding politics to mix is a recipe for disaster...I my opinion.
@ Riverton CougarNo doubt there are low information voters but there not
all voting Democrat. How did that straight Republican ticket vote done by most
Utahns work out? Think John Swallow.
@DN Subscriber 10:06 p.m. April 26, 2014I also do not care what
race, ethnicity, sexual preference or beverage preferences a candidate might
have. I care about the candidate's policies on the issues. Mia Love is
wrong on just about every issue. She might possibly be a good represetative for
those on the extreme far right, but would be a terrible Representative for all
the people of Utah. Anyone who was not of the extreme far right persuasion
(i.e., those of us who are true conservatives -- not far right extremists--
together with the people who are moderate or liberal) would have nobody to speak
for their interests if she were elected. She would be a disaster who,
unfortunately, would have found a place to happen. The people of Utah deserve
better. No, thanks, Mia -- just go away.
Mia Love for Congress and Ben Carson for President! It is time to seriously trim
our bloated federal government and return our future to "we the people"!
Just looked at both Doug Owens' and Mia Love's official websites and
found it very interesting. Mia goes into detail on her philosphy about many
subjects, Doug is extremely vague and unless I missed it, does not reveal
anything he supports except not shutting down the government. Is he afraid to
state what he really believes? And for you Republicans that think Mia Love is
so far right, and Doug Owens is so moderate and believes the same things that
Utah voters believe...remember that he HAS to vote for Nancy Pelosi when she
runs for Speaker again.
Mia Love is an example of what is wrong with politics in the US: An extremist
politician who doesn't follow her own principles (how low are your taxes,
Eagle Mountain?), one who does not care to even know someone on the other side
of the aisle (let alone understand them), and one whose personal political
ambitions outweigh service to their constituency.Ronald Reagan and
Tip O'Neill were friends. Sure, they disagreed, but they eventually found
a way to compromise and move the country forward. They were Americans first.
The current congress is nothing like these two men were. Politics is all about
re-election, perks, and ego.Term limits on Congress would fix all of
this, but getting that passed would be impossible....
Obamacare means that people who were previously uninsurable can now get
insurance so that maybe they don't have to go bankrupt from medical bills.
It means that we don't have to all pitch in to pay for uninsured people who
go to emergency rooms. Funny thing is, Obamacare is Mitt Romney's plan.
Who said that if you didn't vote for Obama you were racist? When. I think
we should have some specific examples.
to bill in af, have you been in the classroom teaching Common Core? Have you
read the literature? Have you seen the Social Studies books? Have you seen and
taught the Common Core Math? I have and am dismayed at not only what is in the
curriculum, but what is left out of the curriculum (purposefully). It is
without a doubt an attempt to put all students nationwide in lock-step with a
certain left leaning philosophy at its base. Statement from the back of a
condensed version of a classic book (condensed by Common Core): The Common Core
foundation is a non-profit organization (I doubt it) dedicated to the fairness
in education for all...what does that mean? Fairness in education? Does that
not sound like the words we hear constantly from the POTUS?
All these people will win, of course. It's very rare for a Democrat to win
office in Utah if they're not in SLC, Park City or Moab.
Fitness FreakSalt Lake City, UTYou said that Obama supporters
are posting under several different names. I doubt that is the case. Most people
are supporting a President that gets things done and the GOP with NO solutions
is finally being seen for their ways. Times are changing and people are not
buying into the same Obama bad mouthing that the GOP keeps spewing out.
@suzyk#1. How am I not informed? Just because I have a different opinion
doesn't make me any less informed than you. There were
qualities of Mitt Romney I liked and policy issues I agree with him on. Is he a
better or more honest person than Obama? I think they are both decent people."Our USA would not be in such deep debt and despair if Mitt Romney
had been elected in lieu of Obama - and that is a fact."How can
you state a fact when it can't be determined. Do spending bills originate
in the House of Representatives or the White House? Last time I checked it is
congress that holds the purse strings.In addition our monetary
system is debt based. A debt based money system can only expand and it has
expanded ever since 1913. Even under the "great" Ronald Reagan debt and
While Mia Love is receiving all the attention, there are many of us who are
going to work as hard as we can to support Donna McAleer as she defeats Rob
Bishop in the First District.
To: Shaun - I voted and supported Romney and would do it again if need be. He is
a good, honest man with a great love and respect for our United States of
America. He supports our troops, our Veterans and knows what it takes to run
this country. You are not informed...we take very seriously our votes and who
they go for. Our USA would not be in such deep debt and despair if Mitt Romney
had been elected in lieu of Obama - and that is a fact.
Liberals need to get over the fact that they are going to LOSE pretty much all
elections in 2014.They pretty much lose what little credibility they
have when they start complaining about politics in Utah. Even commonly
democratic states are going to have a difficult time just keeping the
Senate/House seats that they've had for years.Also, I wish the
2 or 3 cheerleaders for Obama would STOP posting under their (each) 6 or 8
different screen names.We GET it. You LIKE Obama, and Obamacare.
As a state delegate, I feel the best available candidates were selected. With
that said, I was also very disappointed in the far right attitude of the
convention for the following reasons:1. Continued misinformation about
what common core is. It is not a national government take over. It is a solid
set of standards to improve education which will not take away local control. 2.
Count My Vote would not have been neccessary had the party been responsive to
needed changes in the system which takes away more voter participation through
primary elections. 3. A resolution to support partisan school board elections.
Politics should have little to do with who is best qualified to make decisions
for our children. The state legislature already does this more than they should.
Most Republicans in Utah are moderate in their views. It is hard to see where
they were fairly represented in this convention.
Those radicals who want to restrain the growth of the government - We should
throw Washinton, Jefferson and Madison out of office.
"I don't know him," she said. "I'm a Republican, and
he's a Democrat."How about being an American?Looks like Utah Republicans are planning on sending a divider back to DC.
Utah residents have their own Sarah Palin, although Palin is almost liberal
compared to Mia Love. But besides their conservatism, there is one other trait
these two politicians share: lots of zeal and ambition matched with very little
knowledge and expertise. It's sorta' like having a 300 horsepower
outboard motor (the zeal and ambition) attached to a little rowboat (the
knowledge and expertise). Dangerous.
Shaun,I did not vote for Romney because he is Mormon. I voted for
him because he would have made a great president, or at the very least a better
president than Obama. I don't support Harry Reid at all even though he is a
Mormon. As a matter of fact I think Reid is worse than Obama.I vote
on principle. I don't care what religion a candidate is. I don't care
what race a candidate is. Technically I don't even care what political
party a candidate is (although I have yet to find a Democrat whom I agree with
more than the Republican he or she is running against, even when the Republican
is one I don't particularly like either).
@Riverton Cougar. "Several times while talking with people on the streets
they would tell me they were voting for Obama because he was black, with no
shame at all!"How is that any different than Mormons voting for
Mitt Romney because he is Mormon? Do not pretend these Romney voters were not
low information voters either.Or how about straight party ticket
voting. Did every voter actually research the candidate or did they simply vote
by association either democrat or republican?
Fun for MIa and her family to have this victory,However, the big one she
is hoping for his is not in the cards. The majority of, even Utah, does not want
this type of ultra right wing politician again.Enjoy, my dear.
Mia Love is another right wing Republican from a conservative state. I would
rather have seen a more moderate for once, but that will never happen again.
Certainly not with the caucus system we have, and now the far right is trying to
get things changed back so they control the entire process again.Utah is just a mirror image of Chicago politics of the 1950s. All controlled
by a small percentage and lots of backroom deals. I used to laugh at the
comments in the Trib about backroom politics in Utah, but I have come to realize
that is what happens. The result are great leaders like Shurtleff and Swallow.
Both great picks by those running the party.
"Why would I be racist if I didn't vote for her?"Because back in 2008 and 2012 if you didn't vote for Obama, you were
racist. You can deny it all you want, but that was a real sentiment during the
elections.I lived in Chicago in 2008 (I actually lived close to
Obama's neighborhood; just a couple of miles away). Several times while
talking with people on the streets they would tell me they were voting for Obama
because he was black, with no shame at all! I know liberals are going to claim
that I made this up, but I'm telling you that low-information voters exist
in large numbers (especially in very large cities)and they overwhelmingly vote
Democrat. For more proof see the youtube video "How Obama got elected. . .
Interviews with Obama voters"
I wonder if the Deseret News knows there were actually two party conventions
yesterday? One was full of optimistic people and quality candidates who want to
do what's right for Utah and the United States of America, and are ready to
put that interest above the interests of their party. The other was the
Bishop, Stewart and Chaffetz speak only for the far right. Matheson was the
ONLY elected representative who spoke for the majority of Utahns (those of us
who are true conservatives -- not far right -- and the moderates and the
liberals). If Love wins, there will be nobody left to speak for OUR interests
and we will be de facto unrepresented. Regardless the party label, Doug Owens
is a true conservative in the mold of Matheson. Hopefully the Fourth District
will send Love packing again. Utah, and the United States, will be well served
if they do.
Our political partisan divide is weakening our nation's stand across the
globe. If we had this nasty partisan politics back during the founding of this
great nation, this nation would never have been born. We should reframe our
health care debate, not as Obamacare, but that of UnitedStatesCare. This way,
good ideas from both parties can build on our health care system...Research has shown 80 percent of all illnesses are caused by lifestyle. If we
had an obesity rate like that of 1980, millions of new jobs would be created.
Outdoor exercise is the best way to lose weight and reduce depression. New debates, by both parties should find ways to lay new biking/walking
trails. They would place several bikes to rent at these trails to help get
people into shape and improve mental health. Special bikes (those 3-wheelers)
could also be made available to injured vets and seniors to reduce suicides.A General once said, even if you want to install clean water system in a third
world country, you must first ask the locals for input. Then you may make
changes...Politicians, please try listening and stop this partisan divide! It is
not helping us worldwide!
DN Subscriber. Why would I be racist if I didn't vote for her? I just wish
the republicans didn't gerrymander salt county into four pieces. I do not
care about Kane county and their issues just like I doubt they care about salt
lake city.It was a real disservice to the citizens of Salt lake
Mia Love is beautiful and her performing arts degree has been paying off with
well given speeches but she is extreme in her tea party views (she cheered on
the government shut-down). She has also been funded by large out-of-state
donors. Doug Owens is a Yale educated lawyer, a moderate and currently raising
money from locals. Doug Owens' primary concern is lifting the middle class
& job creation. Doug Owens has my vote for congress!
Having listened to the Democrats for the last decade or so, all I can say is
that anyone who votes against Mia Love must be a racist!I, like most
of her supporters, do not care what race, ethnicity, sexual preference or
beverage preferences a candidate might have. We care about their policies on
the issues. Mia Love is right on just about every issue, and she will be a
superb Congressman (or whatever gender neutral term the politically correct
folks might like) for Utah.I think she has a great advantage over
her opponent. We have too many political "dynasties" in office already,
and we do not need more members of the Bush, Kennedy, Bennett, Matheson, or
Owens families running for office. Of course, the liberal attack
machine will start denigrating Mia Love all over again, just like last time.
Not just because they oppose her policies, but because liberals hate to see
strong, successful conservative candidates who refuse to adhere to the liberal
policies and be subservient to their failed programs.
I am not a supporter of the Republican Party by a long ways, but the Democrats
ought to just sign this one over to the Republicans, particularly if they have
any integrity in embracing their signature achievement, Obamacare! Mike Lee got
a standing ovation at this convention, not because he is an establishment
Republican but because he has been his own man standing on principle, something
the delegates recognized. On the other hand, Senator Hatch barely got a wave of
approval. A sea change is coming, with or without the Republican Party! The
Democrats, however, are in for a slaughter! Utah might be waking up to
Constitutional principles, even if ever so slight!
I get another chance to vote against Mia Love. Fantastic.
If the state of Utah sends this woman to Congress it will be a disaster.