Kathleen Parker: Putin knows in geopolitical chess it helps to be feared

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  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 24, 2014 11:28 a.m.

    So you didn't get it from MSNBC... you got it from PBS... so it's a "fact"?


    When TV is our source of knowledge... common sense isn't needed.

    Why would he wait even one day if all he wanted was to attack Iraq for 9/11?

    And if it was about 9/11... why did we never use 9/11 in making our case to use military force in Iraq (either at the UN... OR in the debate in Congress)?

    We made the case that he sponsored terrorism... but we never said he was responsible for 9/11...


    It's just selectively picking out what you WANT to hear on TV.... and your partisan wishing... that makes you so convinced it was just about 9/11 and WMDs.

    If you can't remember the actual history.. look it up!

    Google "Iraq War". Read something neutral (like Wikipedia). You will see that 9/11 isn't even mentioned in the "background" or "history" sections.

    Iran's use of WMDs is mentioned... but so are 11 other reasons...

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    April 24, 2014 10:32 a.m.

    September 2001 to March 2003 is not three years. It's not even two. The PBS documentary "Bush's War" reveals that planning (and selling) the war began before the smoke had cleared from the Pentagon attack. An excuse to attack was needed, however, and "WMD" became the favorite term of the administration.

    patriot claims to know what Putin is thinking. He may, but if Putin thinks the US is a "weak paper tiger", then he must have felt that way when Russian troops were sent to Georgia during the Bush administration.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    April 23, 2014 9:17 p.m.

    ...Putin also knows America is a weak paper tiger not to be feared anymore under Obama and thus you see Russia and it's land grab frenzy. Expect more of the same going forward. Elections have consequences.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 23, 2014 3:49 p.m.

    @Mark B,
    WMD wasn't the only reason for military action in Iraq. Check the 17 UN resolutions... We never said it was in retaliation for 9/11.

    So your frequently quoted line about attacking Iraq for 9/11... just shows how out of touch some people are with what ACTUALLY happened, and how caught up they are in anti-bush sound-bites.


    Check out the dates...

    -Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan) began 7 October 2001...
    (and WAS in response to 9/11)

    -Iraq War starting 20 March 2003...
    (and was NOT in response to 9/11)

    That's 3 YEARS after 9/11/01!

    Why would we attack someone for 9/11.... 3 years later???

    Iraq was not about 9/11. Both were terrorism related, but not 9/11 related.


    As for your conspiracy theory that Bush ORDERED the CIA to come up with the "WMD Garbage"...

    What PROOF do you have?

    Just heard it on MSNBC or something?


    We had plenty of reasons for Iraq. Don't have room to list them... but you wouldn't listen anyway...

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    April 23, 2014 3:17 p.m.

    Even Hillary Clinton, John Cary and many other liberals voted for the Iraq war. If the intelligence was garbage they sure fell for it didn't they, which doesn't speak well for their intelligence does it? Also you must deal with the fact that somehow Saddam H. had used WMD on his own people (Kurds). How did he use WMD but didn't have them? HE MOVED THEM! Probably to Syria.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    April 23, 2014 2:50 p.m.

    Attacking Iraq to get even for 9/11 made no more sense than if we had attacked Peru after Pearl Harbor. Even Bush knew that, so they ordered the CIA to come up with the "WMD" garbage.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 23, 2014 2:33 p.m.

    When your enemy is mired in disarray by mortal hate for each other, and being destroyed from within by greed and lack of hope, a world leader such as Mr. Putin has every right to feel powerful and feared.

    The resurgence of the prejudice against black people magnifies the problems of division and fear for our nation. Internal business seems intent on squeezing the last drop of wealth from the ordinary people and American business in the foreign world has made American a subject of hate by the ordinary people of the world.

  • Mountanman Victor, ID
    April 23, 2014 1:32 p.m.

    Mark B. Your "corrections" offered were worth what I paid for them; absolutely nothing. "We attacked Iraq for oil". False! Iraq STILL owns 100% of their oil! The US never confiscated one gallon. Except now there isn't a dictator there getting all the revenue.

    "The practice of taking on "murderous dictators" seems to only happen when they have attacked us first. At least that's the way it was in the last century". Did you ever hear of al Qaida? You know those guys who flew those airplanes into those buildings on 9/11? Our ideological enemies from many nations (including Iraq) who are still attacking us? Wise up!

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    April 23, 2014 12:33 p.m.

    First, let me state that Putin in a tyrant and is not doing anybody any favors here. His actions in Ukraine are wrong, and he should not be there.

    You have to admit that Putin is a man that shows leadership. He is decisive and has a strong follwing within Russia. Just look at the picture of him riding a Great White Shark and compare that to the picture of Obama wearing mom-jeans and a girl's bike helmet.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    April 23, 2014 12:26 p.m.

    to TB

    Our TWO attacks on Iraq had to do mostly with oil, which is something Syria doesn't have. The practice of taking on "murderous dictators" seems to only happen when they have attacked us first. At least that's the way it was in the last century. As for leaving, we don't occupy our former enemies, but we didn't exactly leave either. Corrections offered freely.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 23, 2014 10:16 a.m.

    It helps to be feared. But it's even better to be respected.

    The problem is.. respect is easily tarnished in an open society with free speech (even undeservedly at times). But fear remains and works no matter what the people say or do.

    ALL governments know that...

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    April 23, 2014 7:49 a.m.

    @ One vote. We almost attacked Syria for the same reason we attacked Iraq, to take down an murdering dictator just like we did in Germany, Japan and most of Europe twice in one century. The difference is Putin will not leave the nations he invades, the US always does and allows them to govern themselves. No charge for this lesson in geopolitics.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    April 23, 2014 12:20 a.m.

    Is he going to attack Iraq?