C-Down...B-DownBYU Joe: Come on down from Mission Viejo to the real
world say in Compton or Salinas, California. Then when you see a 3 year old hit
while playing in his BACK yard by a drive by or twin girls shot in their
stroller 'just because' you can take the non-judgemental high road. A
bullet shot through one office and into my office missing my secretaries head by
one foot. May I add my secretary who was 8 months pregnant at the time. I
don't cry for bangers or their families. I deal with them and know they
look the other way and even cover up and lie for them. They cry for their
children having to go to jail after killing innocents just to be jumped into a
gang. They have no compassion for the VICTIMS so we need not have any for them.
I liked the comment that at one time he was somebody's baby. Perhaps the
family was hoping their son would be rehabilitated. Now that won't happen.
There is more joy in heaven for a wicked man who repents than 99 men good men
who remained righteous. Like Pres. Faust said, "At night I pray for mercy,
not for justice."
For all who question the justice system or the prison sentences for offenders,
know this: there are some in our society who are incarcerated to protect us
from them. They do not want to be rehabilitated, they are violent predators who
have no desire to do anything but prey on the weak. This guy was doing violent
armed robberies while in high school, he was one of those who could not live
among civilized society. They are warehoused.That said, I am all
for rehabilitation for those who will. I am for restorative justice before it
gets to the prison system. I want to see rehabilitated former prisoners get a
2nd chance if they earn it through rehab and good behavior. Lets not confuse
those who can, with those who won't.
I am not without compassion. I am sorry that the defendant got killed. I wish
nobody was ever killed. But, I am even sorrier that this man didn't learn
that one important lesson in life: "You can choose your actions, but you
can't choose the consequences." This was an avoidable death. Not by the
judge. Not by the Marshal. It could have been avoided by the defendant himself.
Being in the courtroom at all was because of his own actions. Being shot at
while there was because of his own actions. My condolences to those who loved
Has any news team made an attempt to get the courtroom video? There seems to be
some discrepancy of whether or not the defendant actually had anything in his
hands. The eye witness said it looked like he was going after the witness with
his fists. The video may indeed be something the public deserves to see for
Man, the poor jurors sure earned their $22.30
A novel way to get out of jury duty.
The pen is mightier than the sword, but it is not mightier than the Glock.
Can you imagine if the marshal would've missed one of his shots and hit the
little girl sitting in the courtroom?! There has to be a better way
to restrain a defendant than shooting them in the chest 3+ times.
Gang members are sworn to secrecy about their life style. In many cases, they
were brought into the gang through a violent initiation. They are sworn to
uphold the "code". The lack of shackling for violent offenders is not
the most common sense approach to security. Just think if that marshall had not
been standing there. The idea was to intimidate the jury and it evidently
worked. Who will want to be on a similar RICO jury?
@ rawlshea1Judge Campbell made the decision to have the defendant
(convicted gang member of multiple violent crimes) unshackled in her courtroom
so as to "not prejudice the jury." What a load of crap! The
defendant's record spoke for itself. If the defendant is shackled with
handcuffs and ankle cuffs, this senseless situation never happens. I can only
imagine the trauma the defendant caused the jurors, his own family, the federal
marshall and all who witnessed the shooting. Thank goodness the marshall was
well trained to handle the situation and no innocent people were injured.
I've been in over a 100 trials I cannot understand how the Marshalls were
not on the man before he got 2 steps out of his chair. Someone was asleep in
the courtroom or playing video games on their phones. Why wasn't the bad
guy wearing a stun belt or vest? These are routinely required in cases of
violent offenders. You hit a button and the guy goes down like a rock from the
shock. And shooting in court room? This is totally unacceptable even if the
guy was a total bum.
The Marshall who shot the defendant appears to be a hero! I wasn't there
& I don't know the facts for certain, but if the reporting is accurate,
then that Marshall deserves a medal for his quick response! Good training &
superb response with accuracy & safety, exactly the way it should be. The
judge is also to be commended for declaring a quick mistrial. All defendants
deserve a fair trial. Period! Balancing justice & mercy requires the
wisdom of Solomon.
Even when the death of another human being could not be avoided as appears to be
the case here it certainly is not cause for flippant and childish comments.
Maybe someone can disabuse me of this notion, but it seems like some of the
detail shared about the witness's testimony (which sparked the attack)
might put that witness's life in danger from other TCG members. Maybe that
eventuality has already been dealt with via a witness protection program, but
the comments by the jury member, while incredibly newsworthy, seem inappropriate
and perhaps inflammatory. Am I just being paranoid?
Awwww that's too bad
Thank you to the U.S. Marshall for his quick and correct action Part of our justice system is having fair trials, and violent attacks on
witnesses, or jury members, or the judges MUST NOT be tolerated. The truth must
come out so that justice can be rendered in a fair verdict, and actions by
defendants or their accomplices to intimidate others must be prevented.Well done, sir.
Seeing people die in front of you is never good even if they "deserve"
it. Taking a life of someone is a trying experience even if the shooting is a
"righteous" kill. I find some of the flippant comments concerning.
"When I kneel down at night I pray for mercy not justice." James Faust.
Perhaps all of you who are glad a man is shot are guilt free, as
for me I am neither ready to cast the first shoe or bullet. That relates to the
comments made here.As for the U.S. Marshal - he did his duty and did
it correctly and well. We should applaud his skill and professionalism and
speak nothing of the man who was shot.
Thanks to Judge Tina Campbell. That she had the presence of mind to visit the
traumatized jury reflects on her incredible courage and commitment. I hope the
Jury is thanked for one of the most important civic duties one can have, serving
on a jury. We must do something about the violence in our society. Simply
putting people in prison doesn't work. Why not have our institutions of
higher education receive a few grants to study the problem. But, most important
let us recognize Judge Campbell for the courageous jurist she is.
Tongan cripts---does it mean he is really from Tonga?
We should applaud the Marshal. Thanks for your service to keep us all safer.
My condolences to Angilau's family. It seems like he was in a bad space
and not coming out of it any time soon so I cannot regret that he will not be on
the street to do more harm. On the other hand, he was somebody's little
boy at some point and his family must be heartbroken over his life and death.
I don't understand how the actions of the (then) defendant could
"taint" a jury. His actions testified louder about his character and
his probable guilt to the charges than if he got sworn in. He had the
right-to-remain-silent, but didn't have the capacity to do so.Seriously, I feel for the Marshal and the occupants of the court. I wish that
they are able to recover from this tragic event.
I don't understand why the judge declared a mistrial. She said what
happened would prejudice the jury. But what happened was the doing of the
defendant, if anything this act sheds light on his character, and if not let the
defense attorney explain why not.I've often heard that our
system of justice is the best in the world. Things like this and sending a
person to prison to prison for decades because he had a gun strapped to his
ankle when selling marijuana make me have my doubts. [I am referring to the case
where Senator Orin Hatch tried to get a drug dealers sentence lessened].If the United States has the best justice system in the world, it
doesn't mean we don't have a lot of improving to do, and it does imply
that all the rest of the countries in the world have pretty poor justice
This ended well for everybody. No innocents hurt, and a dangerous man that can
no longer commit crimes against society. I call it a win - win.
As far as addressing our gang problem goes, it's a start.
Looks like no trial will be required.