Utah Jazz: Plan's playing out, but plenty of questions heading into offseason

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  • Bigpics West Haven, UT
    April 21, 2014 1:36 p.m.

    Re Scalman's "Jazz will sign Hayward if the price is not too high. Hopefully, his shot will improve. Everything else about his game is outstanding."

    He certainly has a multi-tool skill set and yes, shooting can be improved some by motivated players, however, "everything else" is NOT outstanding. E.g., he led the team in turnovers, many unforced and many at critical times. And I wouldn't be surprised if he led the NBA in "four point plays against" his team as a result of those, and after clanging badly missed long shots late in games.

    These plays made me tear out my hair on numerous occasions. Still, believe he can improve on this and near the end of the season he showed a few signs, so happy enough if he's back with a new coach and/or role definition at a fair price.

    However if the Celtics or someone offer him a ridic amount, and the Jazz can make a sign and trade happen, I won't shed any tears...

  • indycrimson Franklin, IN
    April 21, 2014 5:20 a.m.

    Provo Boiii,
    Re-read my post and you will see that I never said a word about tickets. Or my purchasing of such. In Tonga's case, he may hail from Tonga but reside near the home court.

    I'm just a basketball fan who has watched a once proud and consistent small market team, start to look like a bad and inconsistent small market team.

    I was commenting on the article...I sure hope that is allowed?

  • TerryHaimes Sturgis, MS
    April 20, 2014 7:30 p.m.

    The future played together 127 minutes and Rudy sat on the bench. Is this what Lindsey calls building for the future. Pleas..........

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    April 20, 2014 5:39 p.m.


    Dante Exum draws comparison to a guy named Penny Hardaway...but...i think he relies too much on his right...for plays...the times that i have watched him play...he always starts and ends a play with the ball on his right side...but given the chance...i'd probably trade burke...and...there's a chance that Dante Exum might pull off a kobe...and simply wont sign unless the team is the Lakers


    i think the reason for Hayward's efficiency dropping is being forced to do something he isnt very good at...he is good...but not great at it...he is better off getting his shots off screens...the guys is from indiana...he probably watched Miller played his whole life...and during his first years with Utah...that was his thing...he could still be a first option while coming off screens...you just have to have creative plays to set him up...which Corbin doesnt have...i think...


    you are right that this coming draft...there really isnt a sure thing...there is no Michael Jordan here...no Hakeem Olajuwon....but the potential is there...just need better scouting

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    April 20, 2014 3:24 p.m.

    I'm loving all these comments and the interest the Jazz will generate this off season. I know we don't all agree with each other, but it is fun to read everyone's input. I think we've seen Corbin enough to form opinions and comment about his status with the Jazz. Like many fans, I like him as a person but feel strongly we need to see a change. I don't think we have given Lindsey nearly enough time to evaluate him and those critical of him with just 1 season directing this team are way off base. I like the man for making bold moves to take a team mired in mediocrity and taking a step back to build from a foundation of young talent. But, it's going to take some years, not months, to get things back on track. Once there I think we will see a team of real talent that will still be young enough to compete for years to get us back to the fight for a crown. Hang on and enjoy this ride.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    April 20, 2014 2:08 p.m.

    Hiring Lindsey was a horrible decision. Being ok with this destruction of a quality small town franchise isn't selling. I know fans all over idaho who are looking for other teams of just dumping the nba all together. This season was a disaster that will take years to recover from. I will not be a jazz fan again until Lindsey is sacked!

  • Osgrath Provo, UT
    April 20, 2014 12:05 p.m.

    I have to laugh that the "fans" who threaten not to buy tickets live in places like Indiana and Tonga.

    There is no such thing as a sure thing. Otherwise Portland would have already won a title with Greg Oden. There will always be an element of luck (Stockton, Malone: non-lottery picks, excellent scouting by the organization) and elements of heart that just cannot be measured (Boozer).

    Anyone who is certain the Hayward is either staying OR going lives in a dream world. Even he doesn't know yet. If they get any one of the first four picks, the Jazz have a solid future. It may take a few years, and excellent coaching, but the talent is there, all ready to develop and jell.

    But go ahead and worry that they won't want to stay in Utah and this talent development is going to only benefit other teams. "The only place that fear can exist is in our thoughts of the future. It is a product of our imagination, causing us to fear things that do not at present and may not ever exist." Being a fan means hope springs eternal.

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    April 20, 2014 11:17 a.m.

    Jazz will sign Hayward if the price is not too high. Hopefully, his shot will improve. Everything else about his game is outstanding. I am interested in what the Jazz decide to do with Kanter. With Gobert's emergence, they might move Kanter and pick up an explosive SF (especially if they miss out on Parker or Wiggins in draft). Posters worried about Jazz next year will be pleasantly surprised by improvement of Burke, Burks, Favors and Gobert, in my opinion.

  • Alpiner Alpine, UT
    April 20, 2014 9:43 a.m.

    "They have a chance to be pretty good if they continue to play together.". Says the man who played them together 123 minutes during the WHOLE season!

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    April 20, 2014 8:31 a.m.

    Corbin forgot to instill defense in the team this season. Does anyone think that will change?

    Hayward developed into a good player but totally un-dependable to take the team on his shoulders and make the last minute shots...or really any shots that are meaningful.

    Should the Jazz replace Hayward they better do it with a meaningful star otherwise it is groundhog day for the team next year. The problem is Teams like the Heat arenot looking to trade their LeBrons.

    Expecting a new draftee to come in and make an impact is like looking for Santa. Kevin Durrant was not even good his rookie season, Deron Williams sat half the season and in this years draft therre are no players of higher caliber than those two.

  • indycrimson Franklin, IN
    April 20, 2014 8:31 a.m.

    Thanks for making that delicious pitcher of kool aid!! But I'm not drinking...but the $5.00 tickets (that you have to spend advertising money to sell) are an interesting addition to your brew!!!

    Burke may not be Williams-the-younger.
    Lindsey might be a good asst GM on a really good team and that's all
    Ty may not be Pop
    G Miller might not be L Miller

    The Jazz had one of the worst 3 records in the league, in a small market. The worst team in the leaguejust sold...
    Watch out

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    April 20, 2014 8:22 a.m.

    There are certainly a number of fans that post comments that are not patient at all. With the direction the Jazz chose I don't know how anyone could expect them to be a playoff caliber team at this point. I have felt all along that it will take a few years to move up the ranks again but I like the plan and look forward to see what the team does next. I think Lindsey is in the right place at the right time and I feel the time will come that the Jazz will be a contender. The pieces are falling into place and we've got the rest of the league right where we want them:).

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    April 20, 2014 7:46 a.m.

    Hayward has reached a plateau with the Jazz. I believe that they should let him go to the Celtics and possibly get value for him. I would even trade him for the Celtics draft pick. Julius Randle should be a secret priority. He is big time and down in the drafting order. I heard him speak and he is articulate. Grant from Syracuse has been mentioned as a late round possibility for the Jazz. He also is very good. Both are lefties, I believe. I believe that the Jazz are too "right handed". David Lee is a lefty and it makes a difference on balancing the rebounding. I believe that Tyrone Corbin should be given an office job and a coach like Doc Rivers should be targeted. Being from St. Louis, I would like to push for free agent status for two recruits brought in by Rick Majerus to St. Louis University in Rob Loe (7 ft) New Zealand and the guard Jordair Jett, the highly motivated "freight train". Both of these players led SLU to 19 wins in a row and an upset of NC St. in the NCAA. They deserve a look.

  • Cleetorn Fuaamotu, Tonga
    April 20, 2014 7:45 a.m.

    You mean we lost on purpose? We actually threw games so we could look better next year - or later? Isn't that cheating? With season tickets running between $451 and $6,622, I think I'll stay home and watch "Dancing with the Stars." At least I can pick a winner with that one.

  • Mark from Montana Davis County, UT
    April 20, 2014 7:18 a.m.

    The only problem is many of the 'young guys' will be three or four and gone. Hayward will not be back. NBA teams are just waiting in the wings to over pay for Jazz trained players.

  • cmsense Kaysville, UT
    April 20, 2014 6:54 a.m.

    Lets definitely keep these draft picks, at least the lottery pick for ourselves. The Jazz have been quite good at player development and we have a chance for some special talent. Only keep Heyword if the price is right (don't spend like a kirilenko, but I think the Jazz have learned that lesson)
    Use all that cap space money for the best we can on the free agent market or to bring in a veteran via trade.
    Hey, and please don't rule out Jimmer. OK, likely not a superstar except here in Utah, but he can shoot and he can be brought off the bench and I bet he comes fairly cheap at this point. It beats who the Jazz have at players 8-12 (What are their names again?) and brings some excitement. Some drama can be interesting and he would be great for community relations and just grateful for any minutes he can get at this point.

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    April 20, 2014 2:33 a.m.

    My Answers:

    Corbin's gone.
    Hayward is probably gone. (price too high)
    Foundation stays together for at least another year, minus Hayward.
    No foundation players traded unless it brings the Jazz someone better.
    Give extensions to Kanter and Burks.
    Yes, to acquiring a veteran scorer that can help spread the load.
    Jeremy Evans and Rudy Gobert need to play more often.
    Don't re-sign Lucas, Jefferson, or Rush.
    Keep Diante Garrett.
    Bring in a game changing Vet? Yes, but only if it doesn't hamstring the team's future.

    Who the Jazz should pick, in order of preference.

    #1 Jabari Parker (6'8" SF, renders a potential Hayward loss moot)
    #2 Andrew Wiggins (6'8" SF/PF, same as above)
    #3 Joel Embiid (7' C, high upside)
    #4 Dante Exum (6'6" PG, that can also play shooting guard)
    #5 Julius Randle (6'9" PF)
    #6 Marcus Smart (6'4" PG, a tough, hard nosed defender)

    Whom do I find the most intriguing player? Dante Exum. Quick first step, lateral movements, and crossovers. A pass first PG with a high upside and IQ. Quite a few NBA pundits are drooling over him. Lakers supposedly have a man crush on Exum and want him badly, but will take Smart as a consolation prize.

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    April 20, 2014 1:20 a.m.

    I am confident in the fact that Lindsay is confident in this group of "young players", but no mention of his confidence in the current coaching staff.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    April 19, 2014 10:39 p.m.

    I just wonder how patient fans will be with all this positioning.....and losing. Time will tell.