Jazz might be saying goodbye to their four older veterans

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  • Northstar Logan, UT
    April 20, 2014 4:13 p.m.

    Just for perspective, let us remember that Karl Malone was the 6TH power forward taken in the 1985 draft. There is still a lot of random luck in the draft. You never really know how a draft pick is going to turn out. The Jazz's second pick could turn out to have a more successful career than the first pick. A sky high draft pick is not the guarantee.

    Oh, in earlier commend, I left out Jeremy Evans at power forward. But in reality, he is not a "starting" power forward. He is not a good match up against Blake Griffin, etc.

  • Northstar Logan, UT
    April 20, 2014 4:09 p.m.

    IMHO, if Marvin Williams does not come back, the Jazz have ZERO power forwards on the roster. That is, Favors plays better at center, and Kanter plays better at center, and Gobert is definitely a center. The Jazz will be looking to draft a power forward, so they won't necessarily be looking for Jabari Parker or Wiggins, both of whom look more like a 3 than a 4.

    If the Jazz draft a 2 or 3 with the lottery pick, there will not be enough rotation minutes to take advantage of Hayward, Alec Burks, and the new pick all on the same roster. If Raul Neto comes over to the NBA from Europe, the Jazz in no way need another point guard. (If the Jazz draft a small forward with a high lottery pick, it would indicate they are preparing for the end of the Hayward era in Utah).

    Everything points to the Jazz going after a power forward in the upcoming draft: Julius Randle or Noah Vonleh.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    April 19, 2014 9:12 p.m.

    To expand on my previous comment, I really like Trey and think (hope) he will become a great point guard. This year was a time for him to learn and adjust to the NBA game but that makes his job harder when he's not playing with some all star type players. Right now the Jazz have some very good players but they're young and they're not all star caliber at this time. I think a team with some great players can get by without a great point guard but a team with young good players like the Jazz need a great floor leader to make the team play to its potential. Trey needs to improve his shooting but more importantly he needs to learn to break down the other teams defense and create scoring opportunities for his team mates. Trey is not there yet. I think if the Jazz are going to open their wallets on a serious free agent it should be a point guard. That will give Trey time to learn from a floor general by coming off the bench for awhile.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    April 19, 2014 8:32 p.m.

    All of us, including me have been referring to out core 4 as the young guys for a few years now. Well the time has come to let them be the veterans that they are now. They need to take the veteran minutes that have been given to RJ and Williams this year. A lot will depend on who the Jazz draft too. Wiggins and Parker will need a lot of minutes at the 2, 3, or 4 spot and Williams and RJ would just be taking time from them ( if the Jazz are lucky enough to get one of these young bucks ). We will certainly bring in some veterans but as been said before they need to be top of the line talent to be taking minutes from our guys. I think the Jazz will get a player like that so we will likely see some different lineups on the floor next year but I for one hope that Alec Burks will be our starting 2 guard. The point guard needs to be addressed. Trey is getting better and might be ready next year but this team is a solid point guard away from improving dramatically.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    April 19, 2014 11:52 a.m.

    @dirty hippie

    RJ will get a multi year deal somewhere...because he is still shooting over 40% from three point range.

    I did not profess to be able to "produce allstar veteran from thin air" but rather simply made the point RJ is not worth a multiyear deal he WILL get elsewhere considering the status of our team.

    He and the Jazz are a different stages...even he himself said so mid season when he was spouting off before the trade deadline. I'm simply agreeing with his point. He is decent at what he does but that is not where the Jazz are at.

    Hypothetically, given our current salary cap situation we do have the money to go buy an allstar veteran and the free agent market is pretty full this year.

    That being said the organization has committed to the youth movement and as such they need to get on with it not muddle around playing average vets while draft picks sit on the bench.

    RJ is not a 10th or 12th option shooting over 40% from 3 point range. Duh.

  • ed Los Olivos, CA
    April 19, 2014 9:42 a.m.

    Willaims and Jefferson will continue to play in the NBA because they have skills, don't cost too much, they are smart, and they are good guys. I hope they stay with the Jazz.

  • John Wicks Salt Lake City, UT
    April 19, 2014 3:34 a.m.

    John Lucas should be selling popcorn in the stands. He is not an NBA player.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    April 19, 2014 12:16 a.m.

    It's all like shuffling chairs on the Titanic, the ship is still doomed...

  • Dirty Hippie Bangladesh, 00
    April 18, 2014 8:10 p.m.

    @ Jazz Source

    If you know of a way to get all star caliber veterans to appear out of thin air than maybe you should consider sending your resume to the Jazz front office? There's just no way in this plane of reality that RJ might demand a big multi-year deal, let alone receive such an offer. If he doesn't get gobbled up by a championship challenger as the 10th or 12th option from the bench, the Jazz should do everything in their power to get him to come back, hopefully with Marvin in tow.

  • Richie Saint George, UT
    April 18, 2014 7:38 p.m.

    I think the Jazz should let them all go along with their coach Corbin and his assistants. If the new coach wishes to retain of the assistants he can do it on his terms.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    April 18, 2014 7:21 p.m.

    @ Vera Louise

    So we have all these young draft picks sitting on the bench for what then? Jefferson and Williams sucked 48 minutes a night from our young picks/players who desperately need game experience.

    If we need veterans we need allstar veterans that can carry a team to victory and teach young players how to win. We don't need mediocre veterans sucking up minutes from young guys who are more athletic and need minutes to get better.

    Marvin Williams is a young enough rotation player in his prime to consider bringing back. No chance would I be investing in Jefferson for a in a big multi year deal at his age. Jefferson still thinks he is a top tier starter/difference maker.

    Corbin is a veteran lover and played them too many minutes given the objective of developing our young talent. That problem will be solved "in short order though". Watch the news for the announcement.

  • VeraLouise Sandy, UT
    April 18, 2014 6:26 p.m.

    I would be happy to see either Williams or Jefferson come back. What is wrong with having a veteran to mentor the youngsters? They did a good job this past year. However, wherever they end up, I wish them good luck and thank them for what they did this year under difficult circumstances.