Demand for high-tech visas far outstrips supply — again

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  • Z South Jordan, UT
    April 18, 2014 12:53 p.m.

    Don't be fooled by some of the rhetoric here; anyone hired on an H1B visa is NOT going to be hired at 'Third World' wages. Foreign workers are not driving the cost of wages down; if anything, the restricted market keeps wages high.

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    April 18, 2014 12:44 p.m.

    @Sasha Pachev

    "It does not surprise me at all that we have a shortage of workers in the area of technology."

    There isn't a shortage of workers. Numerous studies have confirmed this.

    If, however, the number of STEM college graduates is less than what some have desired, it is mostly due to economic reasons, not intelligence of college students (or lack of). (Why spend tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars on STEM degrees when there are other fields of study that might be less rigorous that yield the same, or better financial results over a lifetime of post-university work?)

    Ironically, it seems that US college students avoiding STEM careers, if that is the case, is due to an intelligent analysis of the facts. It seems to many people want US college students to be intelligent enough to handle the rigors of STEM education, and dumb enough not to realize that the STEM careers are constantly threatened due to overseas competition, cheap-labor worker visas, etc.

  • Sasha Pachev Provo, UT
    April 18, 2014 12:27 p.m.

    My son took vector calculus at BYU this year. On his midterm there was a question that the professor called "bonus" for a joke - what is a/b + c/d? A simple transformation one should have mastered in the introductory algebra course. Then there were multiple incorrect answer choices, all apparently gathered from actual mistakes made by students in that course in their homework. He later learned that 10% of the students answered that question incorrectly. This is in a junior level math course at BYU where you do not get admitted unless your ACT score is significantly above average, and not everyone who gets admitted takes vector calculus. On the other hand I asked a distant high-school age relative in Russia on a whim to integrate 1/x. He had to think for about 10 seconds, then gave the correct answer. It does not surprise me at all that we have a shortage of workers in the area of technology.

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    April 18, 2014 11:03 a.m.

    The title of this article is ironic: "Demand for high-tech visas far outstrips supply — again".

    That is like saying the "Demand for a $5,000 brand new Ferrari outstrips supply". Just because the "demand" is there doesn't mean that there is a huge worker shortage. In fact, studies again and again show that the claim of massive worker shortages are false.

    Don't let the "soundbites" determine the truth of this issue.

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    April 17, 2014 10:03 p.m.

    The H-1B visa has a long history of fraud and abuse, resulting in the loss of millions of jobs for US workers. The facts on this are indisputable.

    Every year we hear the same old tired lines - that there just aren't enough US workers to fill the colossal demand of high tech workers. Well, I work in the tech industry, and I have received salary increases that have not even kept up with inflation over the past decade or so. That is hardly representative of a massive worker shortage. Also in some years when the economy tanked when hundreds of thousands of US tech workers lost their jobs, employers still used tens of thousands of visas - in some years the number of visas used exceeded the number of workers hired - meaning that US workers were replaced by visas.

    If there truly is a shortage of US workers, then more will enter the tech industry and more will obtain tech degrees in college - it works, and the H-1B visa disrupts this.

    Those that claim that more visas are needed usually have something personal to gain from it - like immigration lawyers or CEOs looking for dirt-cheap labor.

  • Nosea Forest Grove, OR
    April 17, 2014 8:15 p.m.

    It has been proven that the engineering job shortish is a myth, a complete farce. Witness myself, with 20 years in IC design, 27 patents, and forced out of work early so we can give these jobs to foreigners on H1B visas; and, this, so that they can dominant the chip design industry by a ratio well into the 80%, in our own nation. Trust me, once they hit critical mass their bias is much stronger than any native-born citizen, as they have effectively pushed so many of us out of the market (and, incidentally, us native-born citizens were trained in the same universities they were, and often outperform any of the H1B visas, especially with innovation).

    Just so you know, it is not about a so touted skills shortish, but rather cheap labor, so that the CEOs can take home a much bigger pile of cash. Plenty of studies and reports have well established this point.