Utah Jazz: Jazz suffer weird loss (win?) in home finale against the Lakers

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  • fortydam OREM, UT
    April 16, 2014 8:20 a.m.

    driggsdude. I like Jeff too, but he had a lot more to work with. A lot more talent and experience. Let this play out before you rant on and fire everyone. I agree it's been tough to watch, but I remember when the Spurs were terrible.

  • buryme Mesa, AZ
    April 15, 2014 10:15 p.m.

    I'm OK with the path the JAZZ took this year, but this is the last year I will be rooting for the JAZZ to lose. Somehow it is damaging to my psych to root again the JAZZ. They need to start finding lots of ways to win because that will be the only thing acceptable to me in the future.

  • driggsdude Farmington, UT
    April 15, 2014 7:33 p.m.

    One of the greatest players to ever "don" a Jazz uniform is a strong candidate for Coach of the year, and led a team with far less talent than the Jazz to nearly 50 wins and what should have been a playoff berth in his 1st season as a head coach. How the Jazz "so called" Brain trust"
    led by "Mr.Clueless" Randy Rigby could let Horny get away is "criminal", and he MUST be shown the door along with Corbin. Under 25 wins and fans disguised as "Green Empty Seats" is disgraceful, and LHM would NEVER have allowed this mediocrity and erosion to happen. If Greg Miller doesn't pull the trigger he not only faces MANY more losing season, but also the loss of his father's beloved franchise!

  • jzzlvr Salt Lake City, UT
    April 15, 2014 2:22 p.m.

    All those clamoring that we don't have a coach that stresses defense...you're mistaken. Look at the statistics for this year and you'll see that the Jazz's defensive statistics are actually their best statistics. The Jazz are about middle of the NBA is points allowed (17th in the league)
    The Jazz's worse statistic...points scored! The Jazz are just about last in the league in points scored (29th place)
    The exact opposite point is probably more accurate, that we have a coach that stresses defense maybe too much and can't get good, consistent scoring out of his team.

  • Cougar11 Highland, UT
    April 15, 2014 12:05 p.m.

    I for one am all in on the game plan. If I had to watch one more season of our two bigs leading us to the 7th or 8th seed just to get swept in the first round of the playoffs I was going to throw up! We could have overpaid those guys and gotten the same seeding that we always got with them. Guess where both Milsap and Jefferson are right now? 7th seed for Milsap and 8th seed for Jefferson, in the East!. No thank you. Blow it up, get under the cap, keep the best of the young guys, draft smart for a couple of years and give us a chance to be a real contender again. I keep the Burk brothers, our two young bigs and if we can get Gordon under 10M a year we keep him too; anything else is too high. If you get the 4th spot keep it, if not trade your two #1's and a player for a top 3 pick. Jabari, Wiggins or Embiid will suit me just fine.

  • dhsalum Saint George, UT
    April 15, 2014 11:58 a.m.

    Few more things..
    If you'd rather just keep the same 45 win team together every year and never take a risk, know that the Jazz would never seriously contend with that strategy.

    And there's a reason they didn't add good players to help the youngsters this season. They want the young guys to get experience, show what they can do and win games, but they don't want veterans to come in and win games. That doesnt help the young core when they play poorly but the team still wins and those veterans leave after the season. If you intend to lose games, you don't keep Mo Willaims, Randy Foye or Damarre Carroll. Williams and Foye are guys that can score 25 points one night. You want them on your team for that reason, but not if you want to get a good draft pick. You don't keep Damarre because he'll shut down a team's best scorer then you win 80-77 even though the young core didn't play well.

    Lindsay is using the only strategy that will work for Utah. Waiting for a superstar to come as a free agent will not work here.

  • John Locke Ivins, , UT
    April 15, 2014 11:43 a.m.

    This was a game of losers...whomever lost wold win. They would have better odds in the so-called lottery for the top draft choice. Neither team could not have much worse this year. The Lakers will wind up with a change in coaches; the Jazz are considered "young," so will just take a top draft choice which will add to them being "young." Not much will change.

  • dhsalum Saint George, UT
    April 15, 2014 11:41 a.m.

    I'm gonna vent a little to people who don't understand how the NBA works. For those that don't remember, Dennis Lindsay came from the Spurs--The perfect example of how to put together a contender in a small market. Guess how it started? Drafting David Robinson, then tanking for Tim Duncan after Robinson got injured that year. They have kept it up for the last 15 years by drafting guys like Parker, Manu, Splitter, Leonard, etc. Most of them outside the lottery. Lindsay worked a trade to get the best pg we've had since Williams left. Then traded back into the 1st round (and gave up almost nothing) to get a legit 7 footer with a lot of potential. Then used a 2nd round pick on an unknown foreign point guard who lit up the summer league. NBA teams are lucky to get one good player in a draft and Lindsay picked three. It will take a few years and they HAVE TO draft a real star to go with all the pieces already in place, but they will be competing for titles soon.

  • jdub1942 PROVO, UT
    April 15, 2014 11:38 a.m.

    What are you guys complaining about, what possible positive could have come from a win last night? None, Zip.

    Everyone complaining right now will look back at this season as a huge success. Do you see Spurs fans complaining about tanking for Tim Duncan? Did not think so.

    Now lets hire a competent head coach, get some toughness back on this team and play some Defense.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    April 15, 2014 10:43 a.m.

    This unfortunate turn of events is aided and abetted by the NBA. The Lakers left behind 3 of their "walking wounded" with various "pinkie bruises". Meanwhile, the Warriors lose Bogut first with a kick to the groin by Marc Gosol and then an elbow to the ribs by Fareid. He is out for the playoffs with a broken rib. I would say that these injuries are lots worse than what the Lakers came up with. Somehow the NBA has to come up with an answer. The lottery system was a good start. However, it just isn't working. The answer would be to use a "relegation" system like the English Premier League for soccer football. That would mean bringing Kentucky into the mix and dropping Milwaukee back into college. Actually, you could use the SEC as the relegation league. In the Premier League, relegation costs millions. In the NBA, it only costs a ping pong ball which may or may not have a tiny weight to give it a hidden advantage. Nevertheless pending Minnesota, the Jazz have survived and it's "back to the drawing board maybe "sans" Hayward.

  • myvision7 Golden, CO
    April 15, 2014 10:34 a.m.

    This is crazy. Last year everyone was all over the Jazz office for not playing the guys of the future. And then everyone applauded them when they let the free-agents go so that we could play the young core even knowing that we would be bad. Lindsey could have made some other free-agent moves to get some better players but then the young guys still wouldn't get to play and we would be in the middle like where Denver is; no playoffs and no draft pick.

    As a small market team Utah's only chance to get better is through the draft and then sign a quality bench through free-agency. Just a couple of years ago Golden State sold out there season when it knew it was over and now they are a 50-win team. High draft pick and tons of cap-space in a loaded free-agent market. Only thing needed now is a little luck and a new coach because Corbin has lost this team. My only question is Ante Tomic is now being lauded as a powerhouse in the Euroleague. Why won't we bring him over?

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    April 15, 2014 10:07 a.m.


    Why don't you look at the minutes averages. Youngsters that we thought were the future of the jazz got big minutes. They failed to prove they were worth keeping. Now we are left with a shell of a team. The draft may help, but I doubt it will be significant.

  • fortydam OREM, UT
    April 15, 2014 9:47 a.m.

    So many authorities, so many arm chair managers, it's amazing that some of you are so short sighted. I'm sure there's a plan. Give Lindsey a chance, he came from one of the most winning organizations in the NBA. It's hard to watch your team play so poorly every single night, but remember most of these are just babies in the NBA. Last year we cried for the youth to be developed. I think the Jazz did the best with what they had. I'm sure that Marvin and Jefferson were on the floor to give some kind of veteran presence. The Jazz have plenty of cash, plenty of room, and some intriguing draft picks, and Neto. I don't know what they will do with the coaching spot, but the Layden, Sloan, Corbin playbook needs to be updated. I doubt anyone could have done much with this group, but if Lindsey can build a Spurs like blue collar defensive team out of the options that they have, then I think everyone should be excited about the future.

  • Kaladin Greeley, CO
    April 15, 2014 9:45 a.m.

    I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that the Lakers will somehow, against all odds, in a completely not rigged lottery, get the number one pick.

  • Sneaky Jimmy Bay Area, CA
    April 15, 2014 9:21 a.m.

    Putting all your hope on getting a high draft pick is not a winning strategy. The Jazz have a team full of "lottery picks" and 3 players picked in the top 3. What is getting the number 4 pick going to do for them? Make them NBA champions? To me it looks like there is no real plan, just hope. The Jazz are faced with some tough decisions ahead and it may be time for the Millers to sell.

  • gehelmke Bastrop, TX
    April 15, 2014 9:20 a.m.

    As this very forgetable season fades into the swirling purple mist, let's review "the plan" put into effect by Dennis Lindsey....The Comment by hedgelog seems to indicate Mr. Lindsey is a dastardly type who should be ridden out of town on a rail....I beg to differ!

    The plan called for this year to be a year for the powers that be to see who, among the youngsters, could play at the level required to win in the NBA....Corbin ignored that plan, giving thousands of minutes to players like Jefferson and Williams, who probably won't be returning next year, due to their expiring contracts.

    The plan called for the infrequent wins this year to give the Jazz some excellent draft choices...The money freed from expiring contracts to give the Jazz some money to play in the free agent market.....Corbin ignored this plan as well, realizing his status as a coach will be judged almost exclusively by his won/lost record.

    Lindsey's plan is solid. If he made a mistake, it was retaining Corbin to develop these youngsters....Hope here is that he will correct that mistake in the near future.

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    April 15, 2014 8:26 a.m.

    Being a loyal Jazz fan and in the spirit of good sportsmanship, I would encourage all Jazz fans to send a note of congratulations to the Los Angelos Lakers for their inspired performance at Energy Solutions arena last night (tongue-in-cheek). The fans need to especially thank Nick Young and Jodie Meeks for their contribution in their win. Like one Laker said, they did not need more ping-pong balls because they have Kobe Bryant coming back next season. Of course, the Jazz did suffer a humiliating loss that landed them at the bottom of the Western Conference, the fourth worst record in the NBA (depending upon whether they lose at Minnesota with the Celtics tanking hard at the end of the season) and a chance to have one of the highest picks ever in a rich and loaded draft this year. So to all of you Lakers fans, congratulations on your team's effort. We hope you enjoy Kobe next year while we have to settle for a future super-star. We thank you sincerely from the bottom of our hearts.

  • mdp Bountiful, utah
    April 15, 2014 8:15 a.m.

    we need a coach who has a clue about defense

  • Common-Tator Saint Paul, MN
    April 15, 2014 6:30 a.m.

    Considering how the Jazz built their success a couple decades ago, it would seem "the draft" is the only way they'll accomplish it. Now if they will have superstar draftees who are willing to remain over the long term, as was the core of their winning years (thinking in particular, Stockton and Malone) rather than chasing the money elsewhere when they are eligible to become free agents, they may once again attain that level they so long enjoyed.

    Nonetheless, sitting in ESA with my daughter last night, courtesy of AAA (thank you very much!), it was a difficult loss to swallow.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    April 15, 2014 6:13 a.m.

    It depends on how you define "turning the Jazz around". With a lottery pick we draft this summer we will not be ready to contend for a title and frankly I doubt we can make the playoffs next year. But, it will add a quality player (or 2) and combined with dipping into the free agent pool and bringing in Raul Neto we get better. I'm convinced we will see a coaching change too and I'm hoping for a coach that will demand the team plays defence and continues to develop our young guys. We'll get back to the playoffs in a year or 2 and the fans just need to trust and have patience.

  • John Wicks Salt Lake City, UT
    April 15, 2014 5:26 a.m.

    This team should donate their last checks of the season to charity. They certainly did not earn them.

  • hedgelog Idaho Falls, ID
    April 14, 2014 11:15 p.m.

    It's sad to see the once proud Jazz franchise dismantled in a single season by Dennis Lindsey. I personally will furnish the rail if the millers have the courage to run him out of town.

  • Dukester VANCOUVER, WA
    April 14, 2014 10:20 p.m.

    What a team! What an organization! Will getting a more attractive draft pick really turn the Jazz around? How will it effect ownership? How about our coaching?

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    April 14, 2014 10:16 p.m.

    Well done Jazz. Now hope for a kind ping pong ball.