Should the Jazz intentionally lose to the Lakers for better lottery odds?

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    April 14, 2014 11:20 p.m.

    Losing is lame - the question is what do you want to lose? The game against the Lakers or lose the lottery pick.

    Either way you lose and that is lame.

  • ImaUteFan West Jordan, UT
    April 14, 2014 10:13 p.m.

    This team is awful. I don't know if even the number 1 draft pick would help them.

  • Russell Howes Los Angeles, CA
    April 14, 2014 8:22 p.m.

    Wrong again said:

    "there is nothing "respectful" about being 15 and 16 in the west."

    I beg to differ, seeing as how the West only has 15 teams you've got to be pretty talented to make number 16. Get on it Mr. Peavler!

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    April 14, 2014 7:57 p.m.

    As I write this, the Jazz are beating the Lakers easily by a comfortable margin. The Celtics tanked tonight earlier and lost to the 76ers and with a Jazz win, there will be a three way tie for the fourth position in the draft. If the season ends that way, I can absolutely guarantee that in a coin flip, the Jazz will end up in the sixth position with the fourth and fifth position between the Lakers and Celtics. So much reward for their pride. When the lottery happens, there may be some movement, but I would bet that the Jazz will fall even farther in the draft. Thus, for pride, the Jazz franchise will commit suicide as far as their future is concerned.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    April 14, 2014 7:16 p.m.

    In these last 2 games it doesn't what the players want, or how they feel about winning games. It's all about playing the odds right now. There are really a very small percentage of gamblers that make money in Vegas. But they win because they have the consistency to play the odds and stick to their plan. Most gamblers don't have the moxie to do that and they just lose money. If the Jazz lose there is still no guarantee that they will get a higher pick in the lottery, and there is no guarantee that the best player that comes out of the draft will be one of the top 3 picks. But, just like successful gamblers the Jazz need to play the odds here. Management took some big chances letting all the veterans go last year and it doesn't make sense to deviate from the rebuilding program by trying to win some meaningless games at the end of the season. Stick with the program Jazz. Lose these last 2 games, get the best pick you can, and we will gradually rise again. But fans need to be patient!

  • TanMan_101 West Jordan, UT
    April 14, 2014 5:40 p.m.

    What if we start winning and we just sit down on the court, fold our arms, and get 5 second after 5 second calls all night? Or we just intentionally foul all game, while the Lakers purposely air ball free throws in the most creative ways they can. This is going to be one exciting game!

  • southmtnman Provo, UT
    April 14, 2014 5:23 p.m.

    Each basketball game is based on the premise that the teams are trying to win. If they are not trying to win, the whole thing is a charade - we might as well be watching the Harlem Globetrotters!

    The integrity of professional sports is on the line here, if, in fact, it has any integrity left.

  • Cowboy Dude SAINT GEORGE, UT
    April 14, 2014 5:01 p.m.

    Sloan would never do this. He said he would always play starters for the paying fans, even if on the road.
    But, I don't know any of the starters on this team. This is not Sloan's team.

  • Black & White SLC, UT
    April 14, 2014 4:57 p.m.

    It's what I have been saying for months, and what they have been doing all of 2014. (BTW, the DUMBEST moves they made all year was WINNING against the Heat and OKC! Dough!!)

    So, of course they should lose!

    Whether on purpose, or not; whether they make it look like they tried to win or not; all that matters is the final score for the last 4 games..., and they need to have the LOWER NUMBER in order to get the HIGHER PICK.

    At this point it's all about ODDS, and how to increase them, and then pick up Jabari Parker.

  • AL The Younger Gilbert, AZ
    April 14, 2014 4:54 p.m.

    They should absolutely do this

  • Darren Rowe Heber City, UT
    April 14, 2014 4:22 p.m.

    I know this would never happen, but what if the Jazz and Lakers both started intentionally scoring on the wrong hoop, and they started playing to give the other team points?

    Then both teams would actually try, and whoever "wins" would get another loss on the schedule.

    I think the Jazz should intentionally lose, but I also think the NBA needs to restructure things so that there is no incentive whatsoever to tank. I can't think of a solution that doesn't make something else unfair (like giving the best team the #1 pick and go in descending order). That would just make the best teams even better.

    While I can't think of a solution that solves it perfectly, there needs to be a better way to go about doing this. However, until the NBA does this, the Jazz need to take advantage of the opportunity for a great pick and tank.

  • WillK South Jordan/Salt Lake, UT
    April 14, 2014 3:40 p.m.

    This is going to be a hilarious game. Reminiscent of the boxing match in Sergeant Bilko. Both teams trying to take a dive. I hope the NBA sanctions them both!

  • Y-Ask-Y? Provo, UT
    April 14, 2014 2:53 p.m.

    Are you saying the Jazz have NOT been intentionally losing this entire season?

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    April 14, 2014 2:35 p.m.

    The jazz are content to have bad season after bad season. One top 5 pick is not going to make a huge difference in this team next year. They will still have average players all around the board, and some below average players.

  • Wrong again American Fork, UT
    April 14, 2014 2:27 p.m.

    Tank it.

    BTW, I think Peavler meant something different. He said:

    "They currently sit at No. 15 and No. 16 in the West, respectfully."

    Maybe "respectively", as there is nothing "respectful" about being 15 and 16 in the west.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    April 14, 2014 1:50 p.m.

    They won't need to do it intentionally. They are perfectly capable of losing unintionally.

  • jdub1942 PROVO, UT
    April 14, 2014 1:39 p.m.

    YES. YES. YES.

    Lose, lose, lose.

    What is the point of having a bad season, after bad season, if the Lakers can be winning championships, then tank for a year and still get to draft better players than you?

    I am considering completely giving up on the NBA if the Lakers get a better pick than the Jazz this year.

  • Long Lost America Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2014 1:40 p.m.

    Sloan would always say he had to play the starters because it's "what the fans paid their money to see."
    But I never met one who looks back and says "Wow I sure am glad Sloan played the starters so I could see them during the regular season even though it meant being dead for the playoffs."
    The memory of how Golden State tanked 3 years ago, getting their pick back from the Jazz is still offensive. It's a fine line to walk and keep the organization's integrity. We have a coach whose job is to win here. Take one of the league's deepest teams last year and win just enough games to miss the playoffs and this year play to win just enough games to take us out of drafting a top 5 pick. I suppose there is a moral victory in there somewhere in being the 6th worst rather than the 4th worst.
    Here's what I say. We have guys like Ian Clark and Rudy Gobert who haven't played most of the year. Fans need to know: Why not play them starters minutes to see what they are capable of?

  • Don't Feed the Trolls Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2014 1:04 p.m.

    Why is this even a debate? BE STRATEGIC.

    Why do the San Antonio Spurs have championships, and the Jazz don't?

    1- The Spurs tanked for Timmy.

    2- Gregg Popovich pulls his starters, even leaves them home on occasion, so they will be rested for the playoffs, while Sloan and the Jazz ran their guys into the ground just in time for the playoffs. That's why the Jazz lost in 1999. Sloan pushed the old legs of the old Jazz and Pop rested his team to prep for the playoffs. The Spurs think strategically. The Jazz think -- occasionally.

    Tank it, Jazz. Is your pride worth so much?

  • Legalize_the_Constitution SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    April 14, 2014 12:45 p.m.

    Loss to the Lakers = a win in the lottery. Please lose Jazz. I've been saying this all year, the Jazz have to rebuild through the draft, they can't get a superstar in a trade or through free agency. This is absolutely critical!

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 14, 2014 12:41 p.m.

    Just Lose

  • UtahBruin Saratoga Springs, UT
    April 14, 2014 12:35 p.m.

    I say lose on purpose, I assure you the Lakers are with their 7 straight losses.

  • ER in AF Harare, Zimbabwe, 00
    April 14, 2014 12:26 p.m.

    If it were anyone but the Lakers, I would say no. But I hate the Lakers!! I hate them. Lose. Get a better pick and beat them next year. Did I say I hate the Lakers? Well, I do!