BYU football: Cougars to face Boise State in a Friday night matchup in 2014

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  • Uncle Rico Provo, UT
    April 14, 2014 10:07 p.m.

    In 2013: BYU was 2-5 vs power conference teams.

    In 2014: only 3 games vs power conferences (Cal worst in Pac-12, Virginia worst in ACC)

    When you win 9 or 10 games, remember that Bingham High was 14-0 in 2013 with a similar schedule.

    Will over Skill
    (we stink but we try hard)

  • Go Utes! Go Yale! Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2014 6:07 p.m.

    Cougar fans claiming that Utah is "scared" to play their beloved band of bros and hokey monikers....

    You should be thanking your lucky stars that you don't have to get up for the big game and act foolishly during "Holy War Week," only to be disappointed for the 5th straight game (and immediately pretend it never mattered to you). 2016 will come soon enough. In the meantime, focus getting up for nationally televised sleepers such as Savanah St, UNLV, Midd Tenn, Virginia, etc.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 14, 2014 2:01 p.m.


    The reason Utah hasn't made bowl games playing a MUCH tougher PAC-12 schedule is lack of P12 depth and key injuries. The same key QB issues also occurred in the MWC, see 2009 and 2010, Utah finished 10-3 both years.

    @Truth Machine: "The Houston team that BYU beat on the road last season was MUCH better than many of the PAC 12 teams Utah played. That's not hyperbole, that's a fact."

    The only teams Houston was better than was Cal and Colorado according to Sagarin:

    #24 Arizona
    #29 Oregon State
    #32 Utah
    #34 BYU
    #41 Utah State
    #50 BYU

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    April 14, 2014 9:24 a.m.


    It's funny how when BYU beats a team like Texas or Oklahoma, Utah fans flock to the rankings and records to carefully examine just how "good" the Texas or Oklahoma team BYU beat really was and whether BYU's opponent was operating with any sort of handicap, such as an injured QB.

    Yet, Utah fans have absolutely no problem throwing out records against "BCS" teams and just expecting us to believe that every Utah win versus a "BCS" team is an amazingly astounding quality win.

    The inconsistency on the hill when it comes to comparing BYU and Utah opponents is laughable.

    Here's a clue:

    The Houston team that BYU beat on the road last season was MUCH better than many of the PAC 12 teams Utah played. That's not hyperbole, that's a fact. And the same could be said of many of BYU's non-power conference opponents.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2014 8:26 a.m.


    "Utah and TCU when in the MWC had the highest winning percentage against BCS teams, playing 1-3 BCS teams each year."

    What was Utah's home and road record versus "BCS" teams with winning records?

    The truth is, the vast majority of Utah's wins versus "BCS" teams came against "BCS" teams with losing records.

    Sure, you went on the road and beat a lousy Michigan team, but when U faced a decent Notre Dame team in South Bend, U got slaughtered.

    When you pull back the covers and examine just how good your "BCS" opponents, you discover that most of Utah's "BCS" wins came against mediocre to bad "BCS" teams, including Pittsburgh in the Fiesta Bowl, a team that finished in a 4-way tie for first in the weak Big Least.

    The second truth is, not much has changed since the Utes joined the PAC 12. Almost all of your wins have come against mediocre to bad PAC 12 opponents, with only ONE win in three full seasons coming against a PAC 12 team with a winning record.

    When are U going to stop blaming your schedule for your mediocrity?

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    April 14, 2014 8:08 a.m.


    Utah fans need to get over their "power conference/BCS team" snobbery.

    Any fan who claims that a power conference bottom dweller like Colorado or Washington State is better than the teams at the top of the non-power conferences, is simply fooling themselves and making a mockery of Utah's 2004 and 2008 seasons.

    Houston would have wiped the floor with Utah, Colorado, Washington State and California last season. Utah couldn't handle lowly Utah State in Logan in 2012 and the Utes barely got past the Aggies at home in 2013. The Washington State team that ended Utah's bowl hopes couldn't handle Colorado State in the 2013 New Mexico Bowl and finished with a losing record.

    Despite a couple of narrow wins in two of the three BYU-Utah meetings during the Independent/Pac 12 era, the reason the Utes haven't gone bowling the last two years, isn't because of your rigorous PAC 12 schedule, it's because U simply haven't been good enough to beat mediocre teams like Washington State.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 12, 2014 8:48 p.m.

    True, Utah and TCU have both struggled to play with mostly MWC talent in tougher leagues. What's your point BYU would do better in both leagues just? Laughable!

    @Rose Bowl call yet?

    Your quest wasn't for AP #15 ranking or MWC title. Again, I think BYU has a great chance to finally achieve their Quest since they don't have to play Utah (0-4) or TCU (0-4) and only have to deal with Boise (1-3). By losing to Texas at 11-1 BYU will be BCS bound.


    Utah and TCU when in the MWC had the highest winning percentage against BCS teams, playing 1-3 BCS teams each year. Playing 8-10 teams is a big difference, you'll find out when you get your Big 12 invite.

  • wyoming cougar Green River, WY
    April 12, 2014 4:15 p.m.

    BYU would be foolish to ever schedule a 2-for-1 with the utes. There are so many other, high profile teams in the country that would meet BYU's goals of exposure than utah. (Like Texas, Notre Dame, and other pac-10 schools and eastern schools).

    Why go 2-for-1 with a local "big conference" bottom-feeder when you can travel the country and play teams in real stadiums. Win or lose, I'd much rather see BYU go 2-for-1 with teams that consistently go to bowl games and give players and fans the chance to travel the country than go to salt lake.

    In fact, better to go 2-for-1 with those other programs than even 1-for-1 with utah in my opinion- the current state of this rivalry is just out of control.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    April 12, 2014 1:01 p.m.


    Utah does have a slightly better record against BCS Schools for the past 10 years than BYU... Utah is 23-23 (a 50% win ratio... BYU is 16-18 with a 47.1% win ratio).
    If we look at just pac12 opponents from the time Edwards coached at BYU to the present Utah is a miserable 28-53 (a 34.6% win ratio) while BYU is 29-32 (A 47.5% win ratio)... So despite the fact that Utah has been in the big bad pac12 for 3 full years and despite the fact that the utes have 20 more games against pac12 opponents than BYU, The Cougs actually have more pac12 victories and a 13% better winning percentage than the utes do against their own league opponents... ouch.

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    April 12, 2014 11:02 a.m.

    Ahhh. The Great Chris has spoken:

    "1. You aren't our rival (no power conference team is rivals with non-power conference teams other than Notre Dame)."

    Please inform your fellow travelers in the crimson crew. All of the Ute fan posts (except for a few reasonable gentlemen) certainly contradict your declaration from on High.

    "2. Its not seen as a good win every time we beat you. Its better we play Michigan or Fresno like we are this year. They are better opponents and present a greater challenge than beating you once again."

    Again the facts contradict your assertion. ALL of the BCS giants ALWAYS load up one or two Appalachian States (ooops, MI such messed up that one) to "pad" their victories. If BYU is sooo weak, they would surely help you get to the 6-7 wins you'd need to get to a lower tier bowl. Given the recent history on the Hill any win is a "good win."

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    April 12, 2014 10:38 a.m.

    "Since when is Boise State in a "power conference"?"

    Amen. Mark May had it right. They would struggle in the MWC, and the best teams aren't even there anymore. MWC is the equivalent of the Sun Belt and MAC now. A few okay teams and a lot of bad teams.

  • Rose Bowl call yet? Salt Lake City, UT
    April 12, 2014 8:41 a.m.


    There's a difference between playing a conference schedule where you get to know the locations and personalities of the teams and know pretty much what you will be facing every week, and playing a national schedule against teams from Virginia to Texas to California every week, traveling across several time zones and playing in different stadiums against teams with unfamiliar personalities week after week.

    Since when is Boise State in a "power conference"? The MWC is simply the WAC of the 80's and 90's minus BYU and Utah.

    It's laughable that Utah fans continue to minimize the 2004 and 2008 circumstances under which the Utes had their only true success in the entire history of their football program.

    According to your own spin, the Utes didn't even deserve to play in a BCS because they padded their record against a weak schedule of cupcakes.

    2004 SOS #67 - only three regular season opponents with winning records
    2008 SOS #56 - half of their regular season wins versus cupcakes with 3-9, 5-7, 3-9, 4-8, 4-8, and 2-10 records, only one road win against a team with a winning record

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    April 12, 2014 3:00 a.m.


    There is a difference between playing PAC 12 schools each week (Utah) and one or two a year penciled in between cupcakes(BYU). Before the grind of the conference schedule in the PAC 12, Utah had a better record against BCS schools than BYU, TCU, and Boise State for 10 years (2000-2010). Go ahead and take the time to look it up. Now that Utah and Boise State are in power conferences, both are below 500 in their winning percentages despite making BCS bowls and beating BYU back in the MWC days (not long ago).

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    April 12, 2014 2:19 a.m.

    @chrisb... 11' Utah 54- BYU 10... 04' 52-21... ouch, those were two bad losses for the Cougs... But tell me what do you think of these???

    73' 22-46
    74' 20-48
    75' 20-51
    77' 8-38
    79' 0-27
    80' 6-56
    81' 28-56
    83' 7-55
    89' 31-70 (my personal favorite)
    91' 17-48
    96' 17-37

    These are some scores of some BYU blow outs against the big bad utes...

    Head to head, since Edwards took over as head coach at BYU the Cougs hold an advantage of wins to losses against the utes of 26-16... The utes hold a 5-3 edge over the past 8 years but BYU has finished the season ranked higher in the average of "Power Polls) 5 of those 8 years...

    To say that Fresno State is better for power rankings than BYU is ridiculous... BYU is rated nationally as having a top 20 storied program... BYU is rated as having a high market following nationwide and even gets higher television ratings in nearly all pac12 markets than the utes do... Sorry.

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    April 11, 2014 10:27 p.m.

    Any D-1 team that wins out under the new playoff system will be in the playoff conversations. It doesn't matter if they are in a conference or not. That is precisely why every team will be on equal footing to make the playoffs. The Y and u are both trying to do the same out! Don't see it happening with u anytime soon.

  • Rose Bowl call yet? Salt Lake City, UT
    April 11, 2014 9:28 p.m.


    "In the last 4 games against former/current top dogs of the MWC:..."

    blah, blah, blah

    Yet, somehow,

    BYU won TWO MWC championships, to only ONE for Utah.

    BYU had THREE Top 15, 11+ win seasons, to only ONE for Utah.

    BYU had FOUR AP Top 25 finishes, to only TWO for Utah.

    Obviously, beating BYU doesn't mean much if U can't beat the conference bottom dwellers - UNLV, New Mexico, Wyoming, Colorado State, Colorado, and Washington State.

    When you compare overall results, BYU has clearly outperformed Utah.

    btw, it's laughable that you decided to include Boise State, since BYU beat the Broncos last season, while the Utes have NEVER beaten the Broncos.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    April 11, 2014 6:57 p.m.

    "BYU is 0-4 vs Utah
    BYU is 0-4 vs TCU
    BYU is 1-3 vs Boise"

    Those records look similar to all of utah's opponents in the PAC. Only one win or two vs. any of them and lots of 0's. Even BYU has 1-2 wins vs. some of those teams in the last 4 tries namely UCLA, Oregon State, Oregon, Washington, and many others. BYU has beaten at least half of the PAC lately. Try comparing your own conference before looking at an old conference. It only shows you live in the past. I would too if my team couldn't even make a bowl.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    April 11, 2014 6:38 p.m.

    "So you want to pretend the 54-10 didn't happen and just take the average of the others?


    I love how how ute fans love their one dominating win and spin their dominance. You can take away one 40 point win back when BYU won 20 games in a row vs utah and it barely puts a dent in the average MOV. Those were dominating wins and it wasn't even close.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 11, 2014 1:36 p.m.

    In the last 4 games against former/current top dogs of the MWC:

    BYU is 0-4 vs Utah
    BYU is 0-4 vs TCU
    BYU is 1-3 vs Boise

    Good luck, I think you have a chance to accomplish what Utah, TCU, and Boise did multiple times in the BCS era... your Quest.

  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    April 11, 2014 10:38 a.m.

    We are more good than byu everytime even though we never get to go to bowl games anymore and nobody gets to watch our games.

    Go Utes!

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    April 11, 2014 10:29 a.m.

    Even though we rarely win games against ranked opponents and never beat Utah, we are still ranked really high and people watch our games.

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    April 11, 2014 9:23 a.m.


    "Ha ha, an article about a Friday night game on ESPN vs BSU and all that the BYU "fans" can talk about is Utah and the PAC 12."

    Why are Utah "fans" even trolling this article, it has nothing to do with U?

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    April 11, 2014 9:21 a.m.

    RE: ekute

    "Ha ha, an article about a Friday night game on ESPN vs BSU and all that the byu "fans" can talk about is Utah and the PAC 12."

    Sorry, but that's simply not true. The desert news covers both BYU and Utah football. On the last five Utah articles there are a total of 21 comments. On the last five BYU articles there are 94 total comments. So the truth is that the only football team in Utah worth talking about is BYU, and fans from both schools go there to discuss and talk smack. It may be that the articles about Utah are simply poorly written and not worth discussing, but I wouldn't know because I only read and discuss BYU articles.

    It is true that Utah is forging a new rivalry with Colorado and BYU is forging new rivalries with both Boise State and Notre Dame. I like the BSU matchup--they are a solid program, have national respect, and they bring their A game. Plus, they're not afraid to play us... like another school north of Provo. Go Cougs!

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    April 11, 2014 8:57 a.m.

    @ Naval Vet:

    Nice to see you back after a lengthy absence, unless you've been using a different online names like Chris B keeps doing. Why do Ute fans keep hiding like that?

    Speaking of "for what it's worth"... I'm totally certain that almost no one cares how many BYU games you watched last year. But since it was so few, that only shows you are not a true football pundit. A true pundit enjoys good football wherever and whenever it's played. And BYU's 5 game win streak last season truly was good football. In fact, that single win streak matched Utah's total wins for their entire season.

    Based on which Utah games you claim you were able to watch (still doubtful about that), you watched more losers than winners. That must've been hard to do. And unfortunately, the odds are that you have to endure a similar fate again this season. You should open up and watch some BYU games next season to help balance things out. That way, you'd also have a team to watch during the bowl season.

    How many fans watched Utah's game against Weber State? No coverage whatsoever!

  • Ed Grady Idaho Falls, ID
    April 11, 2014 8:48 a.m.

    I agree, Utah and BYU are no longer rivals. Colorado is Utah's rival now. By the way, is the Great Rocky Mountain Pillow Fight in Salt Lake or Boulder this year?

  • ekute Layton, UT
    April 11, 2014 1:16 a.m.

    Ha ha, an article about a Friday night game on ESPN vs BSU and all that the byu "fans" can talk about is Utah and the PAC 12.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    April 11, 2014 1:06 a.m.

    BYU fans, this is your best chance to have a breakout year. Even with Van Noy gone, I see BYU's defense as being potentially dominant in every game they play (when I match up their defense with their schedule).

    Then the offense should be much more polished in Anae's second season. The roster? Despite losing Cody Hoffman, BYU should be able to dose up Jamal's run total in a heavy run attack that will turn Taysom Hill lose as well. If Hill continues to become a better passer and complete player, then the offense could set fire (again on that weak schedule).

    Schedule aside, if you blow opponents out, build confidence, and show up on a few bigger games, then a BCS bowl is possible with BYU's brand name which overcomes the weaker schedule. But the Cougars have to win win out. BYU's opportunity has never been so constructed. Tom Holmoe's scheduling should be applauded unless you get bored playing Idaho Tech.

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    April 11, 2014 12:09 a.m.

    I'm so completely sick of every single BYU sports article being taken over with a juvenile spitting contest between a few obsessed fans. Personally, I'd like us all to ignore that garbage and just maybe keep an intelligent conversation about the actual topic at hand. Now, people may think this game should favor BYU but I'm not sure I buy that. BSU may have a new head coach but he's very familiar to the program having been an assistant just a few years ago. He is really a quality coach heading to an ideal situation for him. There's also a history of teams over-performing with a new coach just to show they "still have it". BSU is that type of team that always plays with a chip on their shoulder so I would not write off this game at all. I would hope BYU could win this one regardless of when it's played but expect a good game. I just wish BSU had a bigger stadium so I could actually get tickets and drive up for it. Maybe I can still see about getting some. Go Coug's!!

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    April 10, 2014 10:50 p.m.

    4-5, 3-6, 2-7

    I'm really liking these Boise / BYU matchups. Keep them coming!

    And now a message to the detractors....

    Bowl-less, Bowl-less, and 2014? LOL

    Pretty funny when U Ute fans have realized the only real games worth commenting about are BYU.

    Thanks for U're support! And that 'power conference' smack really means something coming from Ute fans.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    April 10, 2014 8:50 p.m.

    When fighting for last place in the PAC 12, every one above you is a rival so Utah has lots of rivals. For those outside of Utah, BYU's playing the U is a non-issue, as in few people care if they are a rival or not or even if they play. The standing room only at RES when BYU is on the schedule really answers the question about importance.

  • Alex T Murray, UT
    April 10, 2014 8:44 p.m.

    Love that Chris B is still talking about the 54-10 game. If we are really going to bring up the about we talk about 1984? Or all the BEATINGS the U took from 1970-2007?

    LOL yourself. Hilarious.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    April 10, 2014 8:44 p.m.

    And how often do you see utah matching up with ANY team by ESPN for national TV exposure - the trotting utes command no respect from the Big Boys of TV. LOL.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    April 10, 2014 8:23 p.m.

    So you want to pretend the 54-10 didn't happen and just take the average of the others?


    Ya, if only "averages" worked that way huh?

    Well, Chris, clearly you don't understand basic statistics. The mean is heavily influenced by extremes. If we're computing average win margin, a 54-10 would swing the mean way up. In this discussion you should probably use the median which finds the midpoint of a distribution. Realtors, for example use the median because a few 10 million dollar house sales would skew the mean way up. Likewise, financial reports typically use the median.

    I suggest you recompute your historical scores using the median of the last, say, 20 years. That will give you a much better forecast than the mean would be. On the other hand, I'd do a stochastic model, predicting from the win margin distribution, giving a probability of winning the next game.

    I've seen every Utah game televised recently and everyone but the 54-10 was won by some last-minute heroic.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    April 10, 2014 8:03 p.m.

    A couple of random responses.

    Rivalry - Until Ute fans post more comments in the Denver Post about the Buffs than U do about BYU in the DNews, BYU is still your rival, whether U admit it or not.

    Playoffs - BYU has almost the same chance of getting into the Playoffs as U. The U will need a perfect record to have a shot at the Top 4, so will BYU. If Utah has a perfect record (unlikely for the foreseeable future), U would likely get an invite. For BYU, it depends on the schedule.

    Scheduling - BYU's schedule last year was comparable to most "power" conference schools. A perfect season with a schedule like that would probably earn BYU a spot in the playoffs.

    BYU's schedule this year is weaker. A perfect season with this schedule would likely earn BYU a much better bowl game, but probably not a playoff spot.

    Exposure - The PAC Network is not a national broadcast. ESPN is. Subscription to the PAC Network is most limited to PAC fans, and not very many of them.

  • Mark321 Las Vegas, NV
    April 10, 2014 7:03 p.m.

    @ Chris B

    "Dear BYU you are not our rival, okay? Stop thinking you are."

    Then stop commenting on BYU comment boards. Your actions are not consistent to what your saying. Your obsession with BYU along with a few of your friends on these boards show that it's still a rivalry to you. BYU centered articles and their comments always outnumber almost anything else on the DN and the funny thing is half of those comments are usually from Ute fans (trolls).

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    April 10, 2014 5:57 p.m.

    I am personally tired of hearing that the PAC is a power conference. Sure they have one or two good teams out of 12. Lots of conferences have several good teams. the only true power conference is the SEC. All other conferences are simply just ordinary conferences.
    Now if you want to talk power-independents then we can include BYU and Notre Dame in the conversation.
    Utah will be a bottom tier team in an ordinary conference and will continue to struggle in getting to a quality bowl game for years to come.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    April 10, 2014 5:55 p.m.

    Chris B

    Average score is meaningless in season-to-season comparisons.

    14 of the last 17 head-to-head games have been decided by a touchdown or less in the final minutes or in overtime, with the Utes winning a slight majority (8 of 14) of those close games; overwhelming proof that the series has been extremely competitive for the last 17 years.

    The fact that BYU holds a 10-6-1 advantage in better record and a 9-8 advantage in ranking is further proof that Utah's so-called "domination" over the last 17 years is nothing but a crimson-colored pipe dream

    Top 25 Rankings
    BYU 6
    Utah 5

    AP Top 25 Rankings
    BYU 5
    Utah 4

    Conference Championships
    BYU 4
    Utah 4

    11+ Win Seasons
    BYU 3
    Utah 2

    BYU 12
    Utah 11

    And lets not forget, the cutoff year is 1997, the year AFTER BYU won the Cotton Bowl and finished #5 in both polls with a 14-1 record.

  • Lifelong Ute Salt Lake City, UT
    April 10, 2014 4:50 p.m.

    Objectified -

    Why did you pick only the last 2 byu/Utah games? You wouldn't want that game 3 years ago to really hurt your argument huh?

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    April 10, 2014 3:57 p.m.

    We have a national following and we will throttle Boise this year.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    April 10, 2014 3:54 p.m.

    Lifelong Ute
    Salt Lake City, UT

    A lot of new Pac 12 byu fans these days.


    All are posting on an article about BYU and BSU...

  • fan in orem Orem, UT
    April 10, 2014 3:45 p.m.

    Veritas Aequitas: Sorry, I have to correct you. St. Mary's was the *fourth place* team in the WCC this year. San Francisco was in third...

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 10, 2014 3:43 p.m.


    "Remind me how many games the U played on National TV last year? I think it was just once. I might be wrong, but that is the one game I was able to see."

    I was able to watch 11 Utah Football games on TV back here in Philadelphia, and a 12th in New York while I was visiting my sister during the Thanksgiving Holiday. So unless New York and Philadelphia are the only U.S. cities outside of Utah's footprint that gets the Pac-12 Network, then I'd say we had 12 games on "National" TV.

    And even if we excluded the games broadcast on the Pac-12 Network, there were still 5 others (USU, OSU, Utah's little brother, UCLA, Oregon) I was able to watch on basic cable.

    And for what it's worth, for all the "national" broadcasts the cougars got last season, the only game I actually watched was the one were we chalked up our 4th consecutive win in the series, and 9th over these past dozen years, and left you and your boys eagerly anticipating your epic matchup the following week vs. Middle Tennessee.

    Of which NOBODY watched.

  • Lifelong Ute Salt Lake City, UT
    April 10, 2014 3:29 p.m.

    A lot of new Pac 12 byu fans these days. Since byu can't beat Utah they have to say "Well you can't beat most Pac 12 team"

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    April 10, 2014 3:19 p.m.

    layton, ut

    You would think that with how respected these teams and fan bases are that they would get a prime time Saturday slot. Hahaha. Enjoy that trip to Murfreesboro Y fans!


    Remind me how many games the U played on National TV last year? I think it was just once. I might be wrong, but that is the one game I was able to see.

    I know, it is my fault, but I have been with DirecTV for 17 years and not gonna change because the PAC signed that lucrative TV deal,

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    April 10, 2014 3:19 p.m.

    Thanks for the laugh, resident DNews troll...

    "You aren't our rival(no power conference team is rivals with non-power conference teams other than Notre Dame)"

    Your assertion that "Power Conference" aren't rivals with nons is just plain wrong (ask Notre Dame if they have had any rivals over the last few decades). Ironic that you'd even make that assertion on an article about BYU-BSU (a burgeoning rivalry), two "non power conference" teams that both have more national respect than the team you support.

    "Its not seen as a good win every time we beat you. Its better we play Michigan or Fresno like we are this year. They are better opponents and present a greater challenge than beating you once again"

    Fresno State is a better opponent? Really? Do you have any evidence to back that claim? Without looking it up I would guess that Fresno State has ended a season ranked higher than BYU less than 10 times in their entire history.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    April 10, 2014 3:20 p.m.

    @ romeisn'tburning:

    To set your mind at ease, please know that BYU will be playing in plenty of traditional Saturday time slots... and on national TV no less. Too bad other teams in our state can't make the same claim. So yes, BYU fans are enjoying that trip all the way, since we can watch our games from anywhere in the entire country... as opposed to a very limited audience PAC12 channel that Direct TV won't even bother to carry.

    If a person didn't know better, it could be construed that you are somewhat jealous of BYU's ESPN contract. Even their Friday night games play before a bigger audience than almost any of Utah's games. Come to think of it, I guess you have a right to be envious.

  • Objectified Tooele, UT
    April 10, 2014 3:05 p.m.

    @ Chris:

    It doesn't matter what power conference any team belongs to if they aren't competitive. And since Utah still hasn't had a single winning conference record since joining the PAC12, they aren't relative to whatever their conference does nationally. It's one thing to belong to a power conference. It's an entirely different thing to be competitive in it. That is something Utah has become painfully aware of.

    Also, there isn't hardly a team in the nation that doesn't play multiple non-conference games each and every season. So to use that as an excuse to drop the BYU game is extremely weak... just like Utah is within their conference. Utah has actually been dropping BYU's strength of schedule.

    Utah would be better off playing more non-conference games, just so they can occasionally remember what a winning record feels like and let each group of players experience a single bowl game during their collegiate careers. The current group of Ute non-seniors may never get to experience those things at the rate things are going.

    BYU's schedule isn't as tough, but at least they have reason for optimism.

  • romeisn'tburning layton, ut
    April 10, 2014 2:57 p.m.

    You would think that with how respected these teams and fan bases are that they would get a prime time Saturday slot. Hahaha. Enjoy that trip to Murfreesboro Y fans!

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    April 10, 2014 2:47 p.m.

    "All of a sudden everybody's on equal footing to make the playoffs."

    That's hilarious.

  • Objectified Tooele, UT
    April 10, 2014 2:44 p.m.

    @ Chris B:

    Since the BYU generates more interest from both Ute and BYU fans than any other game they play, it's obvious that the BYU game is still a rivalry regardless of what you say. As they say... just saying otherwise doesn't change the facts.

    And since Utah is still not competitive in the PAC12 (still without a winning conference record), it would be difficult if not impossible to assert they now have any rivalry there... unless it's with the other cellar dweller, Colorado, to see who wins bottom honors each season.

    Secondly, I talked about only the last 2 games, not the last 4. I know there was a weird game 4 years ago that got out of hand and would skew any average scores that included it... just like you are now trying to do. But the truth is, 3 of the last 4 games were decided by only a single score. Utah actually lowers BYU's RPI.

    If you want to go back beyond 4 games, BYU won 3 of the previous 4 prior to that. So yes, the pendulum does swing both ways and soon would've again if Utah hadn't chickened out.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    April 10, 2014 2:14 p.m.

    At one point this match-up would have had some appeal...

    2014...BYU is loaded...BSU starting

    Taysom stays healthy...BYU should defeat and in some cases crush teams on the 2014 schedule.

  • theDailyObserver Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 10, 2014 2:11 p.m.

    Unfortunately, for the parity of college football, Chris B is right. There are currently five 'power' conferences, and only 4 playoff spots. The likelihood of a non-power conference team making into one of those four slots is extremely unlikely (sans Notre Dame). Nearly all of the college football experts have predicted that the playoff system will bring even more exclusivity to the 'haves', while leaving the 'have-nots' more out in the cold than the old BCS system ever did, or ever could have.

    April 10, 2014 2:10 p.m.

    Utah State? That's the only local team with whom BYU had a contract to be broken?

  • Objectified Tooele, UT
    April 10, 2014 1:47 p.m.

    My congratulations to the Boise State Broncos for honoring it's contract to play the Cougars inspite of the beating it took from them last year
    That is totally unlike another local team who now appears somewhat afraid of the Cougars, even though they've pulled out a few fortunate wins against them lately. The game stats (which favored the Cougars) prove those wins were somewhat lucky. Breaking a signed contract to play games is never classy... especially when those games are traditionally considered to be big rivalry games.

    Anyway, I whole-heartedly agree with "Scores" about being fortunate to be able to watch the Cougars wherever they play because of their great ESPN contract. There isn't another team in the state with as much viewing accessibility... especially regarding those that don't have access to the PAC12 channel, which includes everyone who has Direct TV, the largest satellite company in the country. Very limited indeed. To those of us in that boat, we can still get occasional score updates of PAC12 games on our computers or phones.

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    April 10, 2014 12:36 p.m.

    You gotta love that BYU-ESPN partnership. Fans can watch the Cougars on TV wherever they play. And now that the BCS has gone away, there's only one way to make it to the final four...and that is to win. All of a sudden everybody's on equal footing to make the playoffs. You have to win. And BYU will probably have to win them all to get there. And that's okay, because there won't be anybody there with more than one loss.
    Go Cougars....and WIN!