White House equal pay push faces awkward pushback

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  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    April 20, 2014 7:51 a.m.

    During the great George W. Bush years wages were pushed back to the 70's thanks to his flood of illegal aliens. Today those wages have never recovered. Employers charge more for their products and service, profits have never been higher and yet they demand more and payless.
    It is very ignorant to make fun of Obama for trying to make things better when the previous President has nearly destroyed the American worker and the American way of life.

  • Million Bluffdale, UT
    April 15, 2014 6:32 a.m.

    When men start staying home for years to have babies and rear them then we will finally have pay equity.

  • vangroovin West Jordan, UT
    April 14, 2014 12:30 p.m.

    This is a skewed argument in my opinion. The best and most effective way to measure equity in pay is to look at specific positions and compare the pay. For example, if there are 10 men and 10 women in the same job doing the exact same thing, it would be a much greater concern if the pay for women was really 77 cents to the dollar. I do this analysis frequently in my line of work, and the numbers and equity gaps are much different than the President is seeing. people are free to choose whatever career path they want. Let's not confuse that with pay inequities because one person chooses one career over another. Look at the real statistical information and then evaluate where you stand in terms of pay equity.

  • Dr. Thom Long Beach, CA
    April 13, 2014 6:33 p.m.

    Darn, don't you just hate it when numbers mean things and thinking people ask important questions?

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    April 13, 2014 1:40 p.m.

    Certainly it is wrong for men and woman in the same job to earn different amounts but is it wrong that men and women in different jobs to earn different amounts?


    Men and woman choose different jobs, for reasons that they decide. The ability to get time off, and interest. Men and women are interested in different subjects.

  • Max Charlotte, NC
    April 11, 2014 4:13 p.m.


    Here is the situation (I have cut and pasted a comment I made from another article on the same topic):

    It is true that there is a gap between the AVERAGE wage for men and women. But adjusting for education, field, and experience that gap disappears. Sorry this is a non issue that is being brought forth as a desperate attempt to distract from the ACA disaster. The only solution would be to force women to major in higher income fields and force them to stay in the work force rather than taking time off to raise families. I would think that most women would object to this. Currently, it is their choice as to what field to enter and it is their choice to work part-time, full-time, or take time off.

  • David Centerville, UT
    April 11, 2014 3:43 p.m.


    The real pay discrepancy is about $0.04. I think as a nation we have about arrived. For Obama to try and make this an issue simply reveals his ineptitude and detachment.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    April 11, 2014 2:23 p.m.

    "Essentially, all of the posters are supporting the continued practice of unequal pay for the same work?"

    My impression reading through this was not that everybody here was opposed to equal pay for equal work, but rather that the pay is not really unequal. The .77 to the $1 cited in the study is as flawed as my example of being paid less than my female co-workers. There is much more than just simply what your job is, what degree you have, and what your gender is. There is much more to consider as the posters here have pointed out.

    Obama is simply trying to divide the nation with his comment and is perpetuating the myth that the right wing has a war on women. Obama is also a known liar.

  • rhappahannock Washington, DC
    April 11, 2014 1:51 p.m.

    Something like 94% of all workplace fatalities are male. I wonder if the numbers are adjusted for the risk of death? Probably not. Given the 96% number of unmarried women, it seems that family is the big variable, and the rest is noise.

  • mcdugall Murray, UT
    April 11, 2014 1:50 p.m.

    Essentially, all of the posters are supporting the continued practice of unequal pay for the same work? Honestly, this is a noble effort to make an in imperfect world. Rather than publicly display your hatred for your president and deviate from the topic, why not do something more constructive? There were only one post that even made an attempt at trying to explain the situation.

  • Hamath Omaha, NE
    April 11, 2014 4:51 a.m.

    This article brings up a good point. When you account for things like degrees, taking off time for children (important but leaves to loss of experience and expertise so they aren't worth as much as the more experience worker who hasn't taken off that time), etc.

    However, those reading it might fail to realize another reason why some women do not get paid as much as men. Some research has shown that women have a tendency to be more loyal to their jobs than men. Men who are generally more risk takers, more often than women look for and find new jobs at higher pay. This might account for the more realistic average gap reported here of $.04 (from $.96).

  • David Centerville, UT
    April 10, 2014 9:16 p.m.

    This is simply another example of the president using divisions, using lies, using ignorant arguments to advance his political ambitions and those of his party.

    This is another example of his ineptitude, his short-sightedness, and his disregard for real Americans.

    Now who will admit to voting for this man? Really? Twice?

    Each week brings new evidence of Obama's poor leadership. The political pendulum will swing dramatically in November 2014.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    April 10, 2014 8:40 p.m.

    I am a full-time male teacher at a public school, and all the female teachers in my department are payed much more than I am for the same contract hours of work. I have the same degree as most of them, if not all of them, and I even have a higher endorsement than some of them.

    Now that's not fair! (Note: this is sarcastic)

  • kaysvillecougar KAYSVILLE, UT
    April 10, 2014 5:42 p.m.

    Does Pinnochio make a poor motivational speaker? "Mr. President, you have been a boon to our country and have given us. . . uh . . . uh. . . a fair shake. Oops."

  • Obama10 SYRACUSE, UT
    April 10, 2014 4:01 p.m.

    Facts and the truth don't matter to a President who is more worried about campaign slogans that help push his agenda. He grew up as a political organizer and is still the Organizer in Chief. He does not know how to manage or administer, just agitate.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    April 10, 2014 3:56 p.m.

    Too funny!

    Barack got caught in his own lies and misleading numbers.

    "White House spokesman Jay Carney acknowledged this, but he argued that when you control for key differences the gap disappears"

    No kidding - that's what we've been telling you guys for years.

  • rlstinso Phoenix, AZ
    April 10, 2014 3:15 p.m.

    If women want to earn as much money as men, they need to stop opting for careers such as school teachers, social workers, and nurses, and set out to become biochemical engineers and doctors. The gap is in the career choice, not the pay.

  • Max Charlotte, NC
    April 10, 2014 3:09 p.m.

    At the rate Mr. Obama is earning his Pinocchio's we will have to start calling him the Pinocchio president.

  • azreader1 tucson, AZ
    April 10, 2014 2:56 p.m.

    Yep, the great divider, Barack Obama, caught in yet another blatant attempt to deceive. And please spare me the "but George Bush did it too" meme. Who really cares what George Bush did? Barack Obama is creating havoc and lying about it now.