Timothy R. Clark: The 'tell-yell' model of coaching

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  • eagle Provo, UT
    April 11, 2014 4:35 p.m.

    I think Knight is somewhat misunderstood. First, he didn't throw chairs at his players. Second, most of his players loved him, similar to what is said about Jerry Sloan above--he demanded effort. Thirdly, the graduation rates of his players were among the highest of any coach past or present. He demanded his athletes work hard in class.

  • Confused Sandy, UT
    April 10, 2014 12:06 p.m.

    I think there is a difference between being "Get on" and "Yell-Tell"

    I was able to talk with a former Jazz player who played under Jerry Sloan. This former player was a friend from my high school days.

    He told me that although Jerry could make a sailor blush with the words he used on the court, he was never demeaning to the players. He wanted "effort", if you made a mistake in your assignment, but was giving effort in doing what you were doing, then Jerry would still get on you, but at the same time would tell you he appreciated the effort.

    That is why so many former players of Jerry Loves the man. He was honest in his dealings with the players, wanted 100 percent effort, and that he never once made his coaching techniques personal with the players.

  • 3-pointer monroe, ut
    April 10, 2014 9:32 a.m.

    It reminds me of some good quotes:
    "At first all of his yelling was tough to take. I mean you look at this little guy, who you could beat up so easily, and wonder what is going on. You have to finally understand not to listen to how he says it, but what he says.
    Once I did that, I could handle it. After all, you don't have to be the smartest guys to figure out he is on you because he cares about you and your development as a player and a person." Tony Rice, NCAA Quarterback
    Referring to Coach Lou Holtz

    I could never understand why some of my teammates got mad when a coach got on them. He was only trying to make them a better player.
    That's what a coach is supposed to do, work to make his players better!
    Michael Jordan

    Most coaches who yell, do it because they love those they serveā€¦and, they want to correct bad habits or behavior, motivate their players to do well, or speak loud enough to be heard in a loud environment.

  • Red San Antonia, TX
    April 10, 2014 8:40 a.m.

    It's time for the real leaders to step up. whenever you observe this abusive behavior you need to speak up. Call the problem parents and coaches out. Let them know their behavior is unacceptable.

    Remind everyone what it is supposed to be about.

    Lame coaches out there....time for you to go! bye bye

  • Confused Sandy, UT
    April 10, 2014 8:24 a.m.

    I like what Relax said.....

    I have officiated sports for 25 years.... The parents and fans are the worst in "Tell-Yell". I have seen some pretty horrible things done in the name of sports.

    Coaches that need to "Control" the players usually yell because the players have tuned him/her out. The greatest coaches are those that "inspire" not "terrorize" players.

  • Dr. Thom Long Beach, CA
    April 10, 2014 5:00 a.m.

    There is a difference between yelling and projecting. During a game a coach might have to yell to be heard over the crown, but imagine how people would react if a business professor slapped students on a business scholarship (in essence their coach) or threw chairs are them like Bobby Knight did just to "get their attention"?

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    April 9, 2014 11:44 p.m.

    If coaches occupy a unique role because so many Americans worship at the altar of sports, perhaps our priorities are in the wrong place.

  • Super Trooper Richfield, UT
    April 9, 2014 3:57 p.m.

    Oh brother. Talk about generalizations. I agree there are some who "tell-yell" in an inappropriate way, however, you are suggesting that anybody who "yells" is a poor coach, motivator, or leader.

    I'm sure that soft, easily produced encouragement in front of 1000's of screaming fans not only motivates, but is received with clear & concise understanding (tongue in cheek). They key, in my non-doctorate opinion, is what goes on when the fans, mommies & daddies are NOT watching. I agree if it's a constant barrage of yelling, that is not healthy or good. But my experience is that many coaches who yell during a game, are quite different in practice.

    There are varying ways to lead and I'm certainly not advocating "tell-yell" but let's just make our kids so soft that no one can even raise there voice at them. Unfortunately, it's another mode of excuse making: "I didn't preform well because I was yelled at."

    Sorry I hurt your feelings.

  • Relax Morgan, UT
    April 9, 2014 3:52 p.m.

    While it is not effective coaching to use the "tell-yell" model, that is what society accepts in all aspects of competition. Coaches yell at kids, parents yell at coaches and officials, and kids disrespect those in authority. Everyone does not act this way, but as a society, we seem to think it is acceptable. So everyone needs to calm down and get back to why we need competition and the good involved with it. Don't think the problem is limited to coaching. Watch the sidelines at your next soccer, basketball, baseball, or football game, and you will see something in my eyes far worse than coaches, fans/parents.