It's about time! I hope their next step is to change the name of the
Huntsman Center to the Hunts Person Center. Go Utes!
"@WSUfan,"Sorry to disappoint your "desires" but the
name UTES is not going to be changed. It has already been approved for use by
the Ute Nation AND the NCAA. If the NCAA has approved, the the Pac12 will not
have it changed."Awwww. And I really miss the "Runnin'
Redskins" under Jack Gardner.
Mister J"Do they still display the lyrics to R & S on the
big scoreboard @ LES?"Absolutely!
to Cougar Nation #1I've never run across a member of Cougar
nation having a problem w/ anything related to Disney. to PAC manWondering I am. Do they still display the lyrics to R & S on the big
scoreboard @ LES?
re: talkinsports & Wally WestWW had it right about a certain
primary song. Hold on. Its spring. I guess the apricot trees outside LES are
full of.. well you know... popcorn
Duckhunter,"Utah Man" is a lot better than "Rise and
Shout". BTW, why do you always put the word fan in quotes when you are
talking about Utah fans? I've assumed it is another one of your ways of
trying to be disrespectful toward Utah fans, but I thought I'd give you a
shot at confirming that yourself for all of us.
Don't know how to fix the co-eds phrase. I didn't even realize t was
there. But when I was a law student at the U of U, I simply sang "I am a
Utah FAN. It works just fine.
PCman:My bad. I thought your point was sarcasm, not uber-PC
JohnInSLCYou're missing the point - the BYU Fight Song
isn't so laughably hysterical that BYU students and alums have been
clamoring since the '80's to change it.This isn't
even the first time in the last 10 years that Utah students tried to change
their fight song - excepts from the 2006 Chrony:Students, faculty,
alumni and media have labeled the fight song "Utah Man" as sexist, old
fashioned, difficult, offensive and dated.The song has been a
sensitive issue - particularly with women - for some time, said John Ashton,
executive director of alumni relations, because of lyrics such as "Utah man,
sir", "Our coeds are the fairest", "No other gang of college
men" and "a Utah man am I."
PACman:Evidently their sense of humor has limits--no rising and
shouting for them!
JohnInSLCIn addition to "Utah Man", the world-famous Mormon
Tabernacle Choir also recorded the "Whiffenpoof Song", proving that they
have a sense of humor.
Well, if we're comparing fight songs of Utah and BYU, let's go to the
tie-breaker:Which fight song has the world-famous Mormon Tabernacle
Choir recorded?(hint:, they didn't have a problem with the
HolladayUteYou're seriously comparing sacred scripture to the
lyrics of a school fight song???Sorry, but your argument lost all
credibility as soon as you tried comparing the two.Frankly, most
opposing fans couldn't care less whether you change your silly, antiquated
fight song, or not. If U enjoy being part of a jolly gang that lives
across the green, go for it.
This is ridiculous! Are you going to change the wording of the Old Testament
because it's also gender bias and the wording is "old fashion".
Please student body officers, unless you have been a member of the Ute committee
for at least 50 years and you actually call Utah your home, don't mess with
our traditions and go fix something that is actually broken.
The main problem with the song isn't the lyrics, it's the tune. The
tune reminds us of the Mickey Mouse theme song.
BYU guy here. I have always enjoyed the song ! It has a character from a
different time that is kind of charming for it's simpler times, period
collegiality. Hate to see it change.
@MyPerspective: I would say it's more than just byu fans in the
State Legislature who know the Utah song by heart. That's a common friendly
bet among many on both sides of the rivalry to sing the fight song of the
winning side after the annual football game. Luckily for me, I don't know
any of the words to byu's song outside of, 'Rise and Pout!' This has to explain why byu fans have flocked to the comment section of
a Utah article; they're just as, if not more concerned than Utah fans about
the changing fight song. That’s because they've had to sing it
annually for the past 4 years, and will for years to come starting again in
@duckycantkeepapromiseYour obsession with all things Utah is
@johntheliarinslcI'm not "bagging" on it, I hope they
keep it for multiple reasons. One it is a ridiculous and embarrassing song, two
is that it obviously offends the dominant pc culture at the university of utah
and I enjoy seeing what a pc joke that school has become. And there are other
reasons but they all just come down to the fact that it all makes me laugh and
laughing at utah "fans" is one of my favorite pastimes.
Hey maybe when you utah "fans" get finished resolving this important
issue you can all get back to solving that whole cold fusion thing.
It's funny to see all the Cougar 'fans' bagging on "Utah
Man" for being behind the times.Wasn't it just last year
that a Utah high school rejected the "Cougar" mascot because of that
term's present slang usage? Maybe y 'fans' will soon
be shaking their blue and white pompons to urge on their new mascot "Cosmo
the Coot." Duckhunter would like it.
Go ahead, change it. No one sings any part of the current one anyway except for
the 'Go Utes!' bit at the end, so you all can't be all that
attached to it anyway. Just find some other meaningless lyrics that fit the
same tune, everyone will still clap along, and no one will ever notice the
@Pendergast,You'd have to ask Cactus Jack.
We all know that if the song gets changed, the fans of the old song will still
sing it the old way.
You may want to change the song because it's silly, certainly not because
of the PC police.
Line everyone up who is pro change. Each has to sing the entire song
successfully before they can vote. Should only take a few minutes to count them.
All student government who fail should be canned.Perhaps the time would be
better spent on a new song. The native american student association should write
I like the song, and hope it remains. I think it's a little hypersensitive
if somebody choses to take offense to the song.
Because you can't spell PAC-12 without "PC"
U-tahUnlike wine and cheese, fight songs don't get better with
age.It was a silly song when it was written, and it's still a
silly, embarrassing song to sing.
Get a life. This fight song has been there for years. There are many other
things that would add value to our society if you would put your brains together
for something worth while. Unbelievable!
Pendergast"Because Rise & Shout... isn't silly?"Compared to"Our gang it is the jolliest that you have
ever seen?"You've got to be kidding.
Please remember tradition and respect it. Leave the lyrics alone...you're
not serious, right? Discriminatory? My female friends and I have been singing
this fight song for years...we feel quite included. I AM A UTAH MAN!! GO
Utah has been talking about changing the lyrics since the '80's, yet
nothing ever comes of it.This time, hopefully, they're serious
about it.Why not have a contest for students and alums to write some
new lyrics that would more accurately reflect the personality of the school?Then form a committee of students and alums to select the best of the
best of the lyrics submitted, and create a fight song that all Utah fans would
be proud to sing.Some "traditions" are just not worth
It's about time. The University of Utah has been given a free pass for
it's mascot, colors and fight song for way too long. Welcome to the 21st
Lyrics to Old Solomon Levi... the anti-Semetic song Utah Man is written to:Lyrics Oh, my name is Solomon LeviI am a velly good manI'll sell you a suit of klo-zes,So sheep as ever I can.My wife's name is Rachel,She's nothing but a sham,And
every time she gets a chanceShe slugs me if she can.So help me
jimminey mosesTo sell you a suit of klo-zes;I live way up on Market
StreetNumber One hundred Twenty-nine.And it's kal-uh-ma,
kal-uh-ma cinda,I will meet you at the kavinda,Kal-uh-ma cinda cinda
cinda,A-hosta, ka-zista, ka-zay!. . .If you really
want to be PC, Utes, change the tune.
to Buford BuckleyBecause singing a primary song makes perfect for a
to jdub1942Mankind? What would Mick Foley say?
to HawkBecause Rise & Shout yada yada yada isn't silly?
The best part of the Utah fight song is most Utah fans don’t even know
most of the lyrics, which saves them the embarrassment of actually having to
sing anything except "a Utah man am I".Keep the stolen
melody and write some lyrics that any fan would be proud to sing.Seriously, which would you rather sing if you were an unbiased observer:"Rise and shout, the Cougars are out, they're on their way to
fame and glory..."or"I am a Utah man and I live
across the green. Our gang, it is the jolliest that you have ever
seen..."Jolly green giants? Jolly Shreks? Seriouly, change the
I think its very appropriate, especially the gang mentality expressed in the
My name says it all. Eliminate all things gender specific, wo not woman, kind
not mankind, per not person, uh not human...sounds like PC run amuck.
@Adirondack Cougar"Are they Utes, Swoops, or Red Rocks? The helmet
still has the Ute symbol but there is a bird walking the sidelines?"Swoops? That's like asking if BYU is the Cosmos. Anywho, I'd fuse the bird and Red Rocks and being the Red Rocs even
though pulling a Middle Eastern mythological bird into this is not terribly
logical, I just like the pun.
Oh enough already! Just go ahead and change it from "A Utah man.." to
"A Utah fan.." nothing much changes and it will encompass everyone.
I think it's time to rethink the mascot too. What does a hawk
have to do with the Utes? It's a real stretch.
I read with interest this article and the comments. To add a little historical
perspective, my father was a 3 year starter on the U of U Basketball team
(1940-1943) and student body president his senior year. On one occasion I was
speaking with my father and the topic of the Utah Fight Song came up. He said
that he had always disliked the song because the words were "silly". He
said that when he was student body president, he and the other student body
officers made an effort to change the fight song, but were not successful. I
always knew that my father was ahead of his time. He would be pleased to know
that some 70 years later, people are coming to their senses. I only wish he was
here to see it.
With all due respect for the thin-skinned, PC social activists, I suggest the
new Ute Fight song be, "Rise and Pout".
Don't change it! It's too fun making fun of it. You look ridiculous
singing it, but how else should you look? Fits perfect!
Warm up your tea pots. . . here comes a tempest.
Need to wait till the PAC makes the Utes change their name first. Between the PC
sensitive PAC and the NCAA, it's going to happen. Just ask the North Dakota
"Nameless". Then they can rework their fight song to go with their
Our country has no cultural norms, America is disintegrating.
As much as I hate hearing people sing Utah Man, I have to admit that the song is
iconic and it would be a travesty to change it because some student wannabe PC
policeman thinks it's not inclusive enough. What's next,
gender neutral toilet facilities at RES because someone might be offended having
to declare their gender by choosing between the men's or women's room?
I've always sang "A Utah Fan am I"
Change the Fight Song....to something that doesn't suck and/or go along
with the tune of Solomon Levi, which is pretty lame.Go Utes!
I am a Utah (offensive to Ute Tribe) Man (Offensive to women), sir (offensive to
women), and I live (offensive to the dead) across the green (offense to Ralph
Nadar). Our gang (a slight to the crips and bloods), it is the jolliest
(offensive to Santa) that you have ever seen. Our coeds (offense to to bad BYU
jokes) are the fairest (clearly racist) and each one's a shining star (the
solar system is slighted). Our yell (too aggressive), you hear it ringing
through the mountains near and far (a gross exaggeration that offends any
measure of distance eg. metric system.)On the bright side, the
writer of Soloman Levi wants his song back and the Sigma Chi fraternity member
that wrote the lyrics to the original song will be happy to be able to sign his
song with a stein of beer and a big cigar. What a ridiculous
argument all around. Can't the ASUU find a better cause? Tuition? Parking?
Skateboards on campus?
This is a problem "I am a Utah person, sir?" No, the fight song must
remain intact. Another song must be found to run in parallel which gives the
nod to women.Of course I've always wondered what a mansir is.
Wow. Should have seen this coming in today's world. Glad the student body
officers are takling the important issues of the day. Gone-awry-PC strikes
again. It's amazing any of us are allowed to talk any more. To those saying that "Utah Man" is a dumb song. Of course it is. All
school fight songs are dumb. The point isn't to have some beautiful
masterpiece. The point is to carry on a tradition. It connects you to students
past, present, and future. I love singing the song, dumb though it is, and have
a blast at games and in the car with my kids singing. (Come to think of it, I
sang a four-part mens arrangement of it while in choir at the U and it actually
sounded pretty cool.) Please leave the song alone. Stop the
madness. Adults are capable of handling a song that is not comprehensively
"inclusive." It will be ok. Everyone knows it is just a dumb song that
we sing for tradition's sake anyway. It is not a declaration of who is
welcome at the school. Please, please world, bring some sanity back
Good to hear it is being changed. This is long overdue I hope there is a
contest to select the new words. Lest hope the music changes too. Use the
music of YMCA ... it would probably work out great
Maybe they should finish the mascot issue before they dive in on the fight song.
Are they Utes, Swoops, or Red Rocks? The helmet still has the Ute symbol but
there is a bird walking the sidelines?
dww722North Salt Lake, UT"Muss" is disorder and
confusion. Hence, the now nationally known Mighty Utah Student Section (MUSS)
bringing disorder and confusion to Utah opponents.
The lyrics and the tune both sound like a drunken frat boy wrote the thing. By
the What the heck is a "muss"?
C'mon, Utes, just embrace it. "Sure, it's a ridiculous fight
song, but it's OUR ridiculous fight song!" Ki!Yi!, you
warm, jolly gangsters.
Absurd. But U of U tends to get swayed by PC all the time. Swoop??? Where's
the Chief? Whoops, the fearful killed him.The theme song is taken
from a 110 and older song "Poor Solomon Levi" but works. It's a
good rousing cheer song. Leave it alone. Once again the problem with
have students as class officers... they think they have to do something. So they
whine "it's not inclusive..." Oh good grief. Go anyone
but Utes but on this one, go Utah Man!!!
Dumb song anyway. If you want to sing about fighting, hum the theme from
ASUU president Sam Ortiz said, “The premise is, the song isn’t
inclusive — how can we make it inclusive?”Please make
sure the song is "inclusive" of every single student and former student
(me!) of the U! Heaven forbid any single person or group ever has to deal with
any hint of bad feelings over a "fight song"!Glad the U
student body has leaders who can bring focus to this important issue!
Too bad. I thought they would make changes so I could actually sing along.
Changing the only part of the song that I even know makes no sense and only
further alienates alum. Bad idea.
"Who am I, Sir or Miz or Any Other of Facebook's 51 Gender Categories,
a Utah person (with no disrespect intended to other life forms, 'cause that
would be "speciesist") am I. A Utah person, Sir/Miz/Etc., and will be
'til I expire. Up twinkles." (Can't say
"ki-yi" -- that's Cultural Appropriation.)
I think the verse about proming the avenue is a little dated.....or is it?
Utah_State_FanLogan, Utah"Most Ute fans don't know
the fight song anyways....."Ute fans know the fight song and so
do byu fans in the State Legislature. They have to sing it every time the Utes
win the football game. At 4 straight years and counting, I think it's fair
to say they have the song memorized.
I'm sure there are many eager BYU fans who'll be happy to assist in
re-writing the lyrics.
"Who am I ma'am a Utah lady am I"sounds like a better
Ordain Women strikes again!But seriously, the song is 110 years old,
no need to change it. If it offends you, just remember when it was written and
feel free it "include" "Woman" when it says "Man"in your
own mind. Just remember words such as Mankind, meaning Humans.
What a joke. PC gone too far. Utah_State_Fan, you've obviously never been
to a game in RES.
Most Ute fans don't know the fight song anyways.....
So how does one go about fixing this song so it doesn't offend anybody? You
could change "Utah Man" to "Utah Carbon-Based Life Form" but
that would be hard to rhyme.
HA! Pleeease. Drop the "non-inclusive" charade. The lyrics are
finally being changed because the current lyrics have been flat-out laughable
and emarrassing for decades.
PC gone awry again. I'll still be singing the one and only
true version of the songGO Utes!