Thanks to Kate Kelly!
@abtrumpet: Yes, this church does more to empower women than any other church to
date and to my knowledge (which is vast even though not complete). The church is
most definitely the true church of God! The doctrines are perfect! I
couldn't agree with you more. I fully support everything you said.@suzyk#1: I think you are right to point out that abtrumpet's comments
are of a sound, guiding mind. I do feel the church needs to continue
growing with the times via continual revelation, as it is a living church, and
appropriately responding to concerns of the members. While I do fear that some
things will go unanswered by the General Authorities, I have growing and
sustained faith and hope that the issues of dire necessity for
salvation/exaltation will most definitely continue to be answered and guided
through emphatic, urgent revelation from the Savior. And, I can most definitely
live with that compromise because this life is but a small moment compared to
To: abtrumpet...I like your comment...you expressed just what I've believed
all of my life. If more people would completely read your comment they would
hopefully be humbled and have a desire to search the truth. So many have been
misled but hopefully as they read your comments it will cause them to stop and
think about what you said. Well done!!
There is not "growing unrest" in the Church. There have always been
splinter groups. There always will be. Those who criticize the Church do not
understand that it is led by God. The doctrines of the Church are perfect. There
is nowhere in the world where men and women are more equal and more useful than
in this Church. Anyone is welcome to their cynical views, but I know that this
is the truth and that it is led by God. And yes, humility is the objective. For
everyone. Humility brings peace and happiness and leads to the paths of
Folks, think about this for a few minutes. Put aside all the obvious church
politics and growing movements emerging within the church (schisms, anyone?) and
look at the true disguised ideology in these efforts: humility to the sisters!
"What does humility mean?" What it means is that sisters have the
humility to maintain the status quo in the church! What it means is that sisters
have the humility to continue serving in callings the same way they have been
for 5 decades! What it means is that sisters have the humility to to accept not
getting the priesthood! And, it's absolutely brilliant that this ploy is
being conducted with leadership positions occupied by women! hahahahahaha!!!!This is not a PR stunt, this is a silencing tactic for the growing
sub-movements. This is precisely an effort to keep all LDS women where they have
Interesting comments throughout this thread. The church, the same as in
business or anywhere else in the world, doesn't need to change
'who' does 'what.' We only need to change our hearts.
I'll always stick with the Family Proclamation which says "ALL HUMAN
BEINGS—male and female—are created in the image of God. Each is a
beloved spirit son or daughter of heavenly parents, and, as such, each has a
divine nature and destiny."We ALL need to accept our roles.
Quit letting the world define who, what, where, or how you should act at work,
at home or at church. If you draw close to God and your Savior, they will let
you feel confident and secure in whatever role you are called to do whether or
not you are on the front page of the newspaper or delivering it and whether or
not you are standing at the pulpit or working your butt off to keep little
children quite. Don't take my word for it. Check our Paul's words in
1 Corinthians chapter 12. We've lost that simple perspective.
I was quizzing the Elders in our ward about Sister missionaries in general in
their mission. The Sisters still report to the Elders for ecclesiastical things.
I would like to see that done away with. I would like to see the Mission
President's wife completely responsible for the Sister missionaries working
in tandem with the Mission President.
One thing that needs changing in the Church related to this is--local YW leaders
need to stop babysitting the girls so much, even the Laurels. The
whole "I can do hard things" mantra is not really for the girls
themselves, who know this instinctively but don't always know where to
start only because the adults have babied them their whole lives. It's for
the leaders who need to be told "take the training wheels off the girls
already" and let them actually do things !
Opportunities for women in the Church have always existed and have been filled,
depending on the leadership of the ward, branch, mission, stake and district,
and in employment. The Church has been a strong believer in the family and as
such has tried to emphasize the need to keep the family together, with the
mother as the leader in so many ways, while the man is earning money and
providing employment. With flex-time and hours, etc, and technology women and
men of the Church and world can do a variety of tasks and still guard or protect
the family. The blessings of the talented people and inventions have made it
better for all to be multi-tasking. Mobility has made this world closer to
everyone that is able to reach out and help others.As President
Kimball said, the only thing that is constant is change. One step at a time
happens more than a giant leap, even though some can accomplish that.Prophets and Apostles are God''s leaders on earth. They are chosen
and sustained for their obedience to the laws.
It is not just protection for Sisters on bikes. Helmets are vital but so are
reflective vests at night, especially when on very dark highways in all
countries with all kinds of traffic on all kinds of roads. Even in Salt Lake
people get hit by vehicles and missionaries are a vital part of the work for the
living and need to be alive, also.Mothers and Fathers should make
sure their missionaries use reflective vests at night and in some cases, even in
the day when traveling on busy streets. The better to see you is valid for
I know that many young women in the Church have as one of their marriage
objectives is to marry a returned missionary.The age change for
sister missionaries raises the possibility for young men to marry a sister RM.
The church doesn't have to make significant policy changes for our sisters
to be meaningfully engaged in this work. The priesthood leaders just need to
expand their own opportunities to listen to their sissters, and to do so more
attentively. As a Bishop, I surprised some sisters by inviting them to
participate more than was customary. I valued their thoughts and their service.
It really made a difference for the ward.
Articles like these always make me feel like the church is doing too much to
defend itself by messaging how woman-leadership-friendly they are becoming. It
comes across as weak. I served a mission 20 years ago and the sisters had these
same opportunities to lead missionaries and lead trainings. It's nothing
new, so why spin it as if it is, unless the church thinks it needs to buy some
goodwill among the liberal Mormon public. I'm sure in conference today
we'll see a woman pray to open a meeting for "the first time ever!"
This has the look and feel of throwing out a few scraps in hopes of quieting a
small but growing unrest.
It's not a stretch to see that this change in sister missionaries'
assignments will foster a new manner of ward and branch leadership in the
decades that follow. No, the priesthood won't be given to women, but women
will be more active and vocal in ward councils and the LDS Church will be better
for it. The traditions--not the doctrine--will change and the sought after
"equality" of voice and input will be received. Priesthood leaders will
be more accustomed to participating equally--and humbly--with the women in their
wards seeing as how they had that experience in the mission field. Marriages
will improve as couples will more equally lead their families. Personally I feel
that this is a very inspired method to affect change in LDS culture and
tradition, by starting with the young missionaries, although it will take more
than a few years for the saints to fully accept these new roles.
This is exciting news for a former sister missionary. The sisters in our
mission worked so hard, working circles around most of the elders, and I got
called in by the district leader and he very seriously asked me to consider
taking a two hour lunch each day! Gone are those days.Many years ago a
rather progressive Mission President asked my niece and her companion to be his
Assistants, as they were the best missionaries in that mission. It will be
interesting to see if that might be a possibility for more sisters in the
I think the Church has done a wonderful thing in setting up a framework that
gives sisters greater opportunity to serve missions and in having them act in
leadership capacities. It is a positive investment in their development as human
beings. Heavenly Father doesn't view us first and foremost as part of
families or as male or female. He view us each, individually, as his child. We
will be dealt with individually, just as the Savior dealt with people, "one
by one." 3rd Nep. 17:21. The love that He has for us individually, and His
desire that we each grow, learn and become more like Him and our Heavenly Mother
in our own individual way, is paramount. It transcends other categories.
Wow! Great article and great news about the increased role of women in the
mission field! I worked as an engineer for 40 years and found that women were
great engineers and great managers. I forgot they were "women", and my
association with men and women colleagues and managers was based upon their role
as engineers. I'm glad to see that church leaders are following that path.
Please caution these young women against riding bicycles while wearing long
skirts and dresses. This is a serious accident waiting to happen. Even the bike
(pictured) equipped with fenders and a chain guard, poses a risk. Long flowing
clothing is easily drawn into the spokes and wrapped around the hubs of these
bikes possibly causing a fall and injury - and when it happens in traffic, it
could be deadly.Sorry to be such a busy-body. I hope these young
women have rewarding (and safe) experiences while on their missions.
State government leaders should do the same. There are department, division and
executive along with many legislators that don't believe women should be in
leadership positions. Some of the splinter groups of a party have manipulated
the men in the legislature to do their bidding. Many do not consider women to
be equals when they are half of the state, at least, and are very educated in
our state and have very high abilities and capabilities. An oxen team cannot
pull a load when unequal. They work together to do all they can, together, not
divided. Sister missionaries have always been a very vital part of the mission.
They can reach out in a way that Elders cannot. Humility is one of those areas
. Elders and Ward and Branch leaders can learn a lot from these young women
Siisters on a mission to help Heavenly Father and his Son, Jesus Christ as they
have the Holy Ghost in their lives, also. What blessings for
missions throughout the world forever. It is not just a blessing for the
younger Sister missionaries but those in their later years serving. The effect
in ward and branch, district and stake will be forever.
I am thrilled the Church is more fully utilizing the strength of women in
missionary work. I'd love to see more callings where wives are called to
serve with their husbands and provide support and a communication channel for
Young women of this excellence will need challenging church positions when they
return home as well. We continue to struggle to find enough priesthood men to
staff wards and stakes, and need fewer sisters in the traditional church calling
line-up. The next big challenge is to use that talent of young women to enrich
the Church, and not let all of that experience and education go to waste, or
worse, lose the young women totally as they search for a place that they are
needed. Priesthood leaders, it is time to step up your game!