I'm sad to lose Carlino. Remember the passing of Jeff Congdon? Most of
you can't. But I remember, and there is something magic in that kind of
passing. Carlino had that magic. If only he had consistency in his shooting,
or had a "pass first" mindset. I loved Carlino's unabashed joy
when having fun. Remember "Kresh?" Remember Matt Carlino!
In search of individual stardom in a team sport, Carlino attended two different
high schools, committed to UNLV and Indiana, signed with UCLA and stayed for a
few weeks then quit because he didn't start as a freshman and transferred
to BYU. Now, he's quitting again because he wants to be "THE MAN."
Most of the time, I hated watching Matt Carlino play. A few times, I
was intrigued when he got hot, but it never lasted and nothing but being the
only many in the spotlight was ever good enough for him. Who knows
where Matt Carlino will end up... And who cares? I for one, will not miss Matt
When someone leaves a program, it generally means their heart was never there.
BYU will be better off without him.
Carlino is so great that I predict he will be coaching a high school team within
the next 2 years or selling insurance
objectified,Actually, its not very common at all to ask college
juniors if they are going to transfer, even if they are coming off the bench.You're getting confused with professional athletes who yes are
asked all the time about if they are happy with where they are playing.Its really quite rare for a reporter to ask a guy who plays significant
minutes(even if they are off the bench) if he's leaving for his last year.
I can almost guarantee that Carlino didn't leave because of anything
shocking about "those crazy Mormons" at BYU. He went to a high school
where 1/3 of the student body was LDS. I would think he was pretty comfortable
with being around Latter-day Saints.
Carlino is not too self aware. He would give any coach a heart attack. Flashes
of brilliance more than offset by mind numbing shots at mind blowing times in
the game. WHere is the basketball sense after all these years. Good luck
wherever you go, hopefully you learned fromyour mistakes , but I have a feeling
you still dont get it.
Chris B says: "Good decision by Matt - best of luck".Why is
it a good decision? IF it is due to his losing a starting position, then no it
isn't. Much like the Jake Heaps situation, if the decision is due to
thinking they deserve a starting roll, then it is not a good decision. Both of
those players, Heaps and Carlino, were dealt with according to performance. It
is getting better - consistency in Carlino's case - that they should be
focused on, not running away from their shortcomings.
I wish Rock had of explained the part about BYU basketball being structured.
Was that the humorous side of the article and we couldn't see his tongue
in cheek?I saw no structure ever, from anyone, ever...did i say
never ever? What am i missing??
WiscougarfanRiver Falls, WIRe: Uncle Rico"He
may be playing against Jimmer in Europe in a couple years."You
might be right. I think Carlino has what it takes to play professionally. I
doubt he makes $7 million dollars in his first three years playing.---------------You doubt he'll make $7 million? I think you
can be fairly certain that he won't racking up DNPs on a NBA bench for
Strangely written article. I wish Matt Carlino all the best at Arizona State
next year. I look forward to watching him in person.
As Brave Sir Sparrow points out, Carlino was never real good at defense. He only
holds 2 of the top 20 spots in single season steals for the WCC all time record
books......Carlino was one of the few guys who came out and actually played
defense. BYU desperately needs someone that can play defense. Watching the women
play was night and day in terms of defense. Just let Carlino go. He
came out and played his best. He is a 22 or so old guy. It's easy for the
40 year old blubberboys to sit on this board and blast him, but he came out and
played (albeit at times with a sporadic touch) his best.
I think that Carlino has the potential to be a great player. He was trying to
fill Jimmer's shoes, and that is impossible and unfair to do. He needs a
team that will let him loose. He may be the most amazing player you have ever
seen at times, and sometimes the worst. BYU just didn't want to risk that.
I think that this could be a big blow, but it is a comfort to know that we have
depth at the guard position.Best wishes to Matty Basketball.
Carlino played like an All-American at times and like the annoying guy on your
ward team at times. Nonetheless, I support his decision to leave (make possible
by graduating) and really hope the kids lands in a spot where he can have fun
playing basketball. Sports always ends early...even for the best.
Left UCLA because of a negative culture so I wouldn't hold that against
him. Why not transfer? Has his degree can go somewhere that doesn't play in
a weak league with little exposure and respect outside of Gonzaga. Doesn't
have to make lame promotional videos anymore (joke "lightening up
Francis") and watch Haws be "The Star." Because he graduated he had
options and decided to see if he could improve with another system and coaches.
Don't we all want to improve? I don't think BYU should worry too much
and I don't think people should be so harsh on Carlino. If you had options
with your work would you look at a better opportunity or a fresh start to
improve yourself? Besides 3 years in Provo is long enough...
Count me as a Carlino fan. His shooting was sporadic, but he was a good
defensive player (#7 all time in steals), and I loved it when he drove to the
basket his frosh and soph years. His junior year was a bit rough, and I think
the emergence of KC as the more reliable point guard had to have been tough for
Carlino. I wish him the best wherever he goes.
Good luck Matt you gave us great help for three years and got a degree for your
great work. Good luck in your pursuit of better position and Thanks for the
Carlino originally committed to Indiana, then bailed and went to UCLA, then
bailed and went to BYU, then bailed and went to....I don't
think he'll land at a major program or in a major conference because
he's just too wishy-washy. Apparently he has issues with commitment. A
decent program's not going to touch him because there's too much
potential he'd leave the school before the season starts.And
the comparisons to Jimmer have to stop. As a Utah fan, I will be honest with
you and say that Carlino isn't fit to hand Jimmer his Gatorade...Jimmer was
10 times the college player Carlino is, although neither of them were
particularly good on defense.
"...has caused BYU fans more aggravation than liberalism and 'Big
Love' combined" will vault its way into my top ten list of Rock
quotes. Still laughing. Almost makes up for the D News censors rejecting my
comment yesterday on the General Conference quiz for reasons I still don't
Strange decision, but probably good for everyone involved. This sounds like
someone who doesn't have people in his inner circle willing to tell him the
hard truth. He's just a mediocre player, albeit one that delivers higher
highs and lower lows than most. He had plenty of opportunities to be The Man at
the Y; it's just hard to maintain that status when you're struggling
to shoot 40/30/70 with too many turnovers. You is what you is, Matt. Moving to
another school won't suddenly make you acceptably efficient.The
comments on his pro prospects are just goofy. If he gets more than a sniff at
playing in some far corner of the world, I'll be shocked. Does Senegal have
a league? After his freshman year, I thought he would have a shot at a career .
. assuming a reasonable level of improvement. As we know, that hasn't
happened.Goodbye, Matty Bricks. I wish you well, but as a hoops
player you just aren't that good, bro.
Carlino's reasons for leaving UCLA most likely had nothing to do with his
playing time. It more than likely had a lot to do with a certain player on the
UCLA squad who liked to bully other players; and for some reason had a special
dislike for Carlino. There were a lot of guys who transferred away from that
program because of the horrible atmosphere.Thus, this transfer is
not the same situation at all. I don't know his real reasons for
transferring, but I wish him luck and hope he can find some consistency in his
final year of eligibility. If he can find that consistency? Well, we all know
how dangerous he can be.Finally: comparisons to Jimmer? What? This
is the first time I have ever read or heard anything about Carlino being
expected to be like Jimmer. This conjecture was really the only problem I had
with the article.
I for one am of the opinion that Matt will continue to look for greener grass
his whole life, instead of making the grass greener. He left UCLA to BYU
because he was not getting what he wanted. At BYU his shooting was as up and
down as a rollercoaster, much like the article showed so well. I wish him well,
and it is my opinion, as it was shown in the end with him on the bench BYU will
be just fine. when he had to be on the court because of injury, he returned to
his style of shooting and not passing, despite a 27% avg. Thank you Matt for
all you have done.
RE: Korenek"It would appear that BYU's offense is built
around having one player take the majority of the shots and the other players
assume a supporting role. One has to wonder if Matt wanted to be more of the one
taking the majority of the shots and less of the one playing the supporting
role."I think that is unlikely as Matt took more shots than
anyone on BYU's team other than Haws, played the second most minutes of
anyone on the team, and shot TWICE as many three pointers as anyone else on the
team. FYI: Tyler Haws shot 24.9% of all BYU's field goal
attempts last season. Matt shot 19.5%, Collingsworth shot 16.1%, Mika shot
12.1%, Halford 8.9%, and Austin shot 4%. Troll conjecture = epic fail. Go Cougs!
It would appear that BYU's offense is built around having one player take
the majority of the shots and the other players assume a supporting role. One
has to wonder if Matt wanted to be more of the one taking the majority of the
shots and less of the one playing the supporting role.
Chris B:Actually, it's very common for reporters to ask any
player who was previously a team starter, but then relegated to coming off the
bench if they have thoughts of leaving before their next season. It's a
natural question since most players don't like feeling demoted, and egos
will then often come into play. Some players are more team oriented than
others.As such, it's doubtful if any reporters (or coaches) actually
saw this coming beyond just pure speculation (much like your comment)...
especially since it was asked just a single time and multiple weeks ago. Taken in full context, it's obvious Carlino's leaving wasn't
previously "obvious to many" as you once again make another assertion
without foundation. BTW: I'm glad your other controversial
comment was removed. Its intent was obviously negative in nature and didn't
add anything positive to the dialog. Rules are rules.
Carlino reminded me of Tavernarri. When he gets hot look out but overall he
tended to hurt us and frustrate everyone with terrible shot selection and
turnovers. Anson Winder is a much better option at point and Bartley will
continue to get better and better. this is a good move for both because I think
Rose felt obligated to play Carlino.
Carlino will never be "than man" on any team. He would show flashes of
what we all hoped and expected of him 3-4 games each season. But, he never
strung a good, consistent season together for any of the 3 years he was here. He
will forever be a "legand in his own mind."
For those wondering about Carlino's impressions of BYU.“I’m grateful for the opportunity Coach Rose and his staff have
given me. I’m also grateful for my teammates, professors and advisors for
making my time at BYU such a great experience and for helping me grow so much as
a person. Thank you to the fans that have given me so much support. I feel very
blessed that I was able to represent BYU.”
@ Chris:Just curious as to why you wrote 2 of the first 3 comments
to another all-BYU article... especially in light of the fact you make it no
secret that you totally despise all things BYU?On top of that, you
totally speculate in trying to purposely create controversy concerning the
reason for Matt's departure. It's never a good thing when someone
(usually you) has to include "don't blame me..." in their comment
(twice in this past week alone).Since you've never said one
positive thing about Carlino in the 3 years he was at BYU, why are you now
wishing him "the best of luck"? Both your comments seem obviously laden
with sarcasm and hypocrisy. Just being honest.And since Utah has
players transfer from both their basketball and football teams each and every
season, why don't you spent a little more time speculating on those and a
little less time feigning concern about BYU's transfers. And
since transferring seldom works out by any athlete from any sizable program
(i.e., Jake Heaps, etc.), why do say this was "a good decision" by
Carlino? You didn't list a reason.
Carlino and Loyd have nothing to do with each other. Their reasons for leaving
could not be more different. Why do U make this stuff up?Loyd was
suffering academically, missing practices, etc. He may not have liked the
influence of Mormons, but it had nothing to do with his reason for leaving.Carlino's departure has everything to do with playing time and
starting role. It has nothing to do with academics, or the influence of the
church. "I wonder what Carlino's impressions are of byu?" Do you
really? Just watch one of the many times he was interviewed. He's been
extremely complimentary of the BYU, Rose, his teammates, his classmates.
Instead of trying to make up what he is thinking, give me one quote where he is
critical of the church, the honor code or the school. I can give you 100 quotes
of what his impressions are of BYU, and they are all positive.
One of Rock's better written articles, and I agree with one exception. BYU
was a good fit for Matt Carlino precisely because Coach Rose would permit him to
freelance on the court. There aren't many places where a Fredette or
Carlino would have the green light in the same fashion Coach Rose has
permitted.However, while BYU's half-court offense is centered
on hand-off, "motion" passes among the guards well away from the hoop,
and especially as the clock wound down, it seemed the only offense available was
the type Matt (and others) displayed. Their offense did not appear
"structured" in the sense of the old Princeton back-door cut, a
definable triangle offense, or old Indiana's off-the-ball pick offense. As
such, BYU's offense was guard centric, but seemed to make poor use of the
"bigs."I wish Matt great luck wherever he may land. He may
find his shot still won't drop more than it has without a bit more
"structure", and he may not enjoy the same freedom on the court that he
was given at BYU.
Re: Uncle Rico"He may be playing against Jimmer in Europe in a
couple years."You might be right. I think Carlino has what it
takes to play professionally. I doubt he makes $7 million dollars in his first
three years playing, but it is becoming more and more common for former BYU
players to make big bucks playing ball so I wouldn't put it past him. Good
luck Matty basketball.
I have eligibility left.
He may be playing against Jimmer in Europe in a couple of years.
I'll miss Matt. BYU wouild be a better team if he stayed, but I guess he
has itchy feet. I can't see how transferring helps his cause. He is very
talented but streaky. We don't know everything, but the impression is when
things don't go exactly how Matt likes he bolts.
I never really trust announcements like this on April 1st, but if this is true,
and we'll see tomorrow, then it will take away our most unreliable, but
also one of our most potent, weapons. Carlino's explosiveness is great,
though not consistent. I'm curious as to why it says he is necessarily
transferring without providing a destination.
Fair assessment, Brad. Good job. I'll miss Carlino, but with a sigh of
The article is well written. The ability of Carlino to bring the game home or
to blow it open for the opponents gave many of us too much uncertainty. Carlino
is a class act. He never bad-mouthed others. He took criticism with courage
and determination to not let it stop his wide open, little controlled game.
Only the bench could stop him from wild shots. I liked Carlino for his lack of
fear to attempt the big shots. I didn't like the lack of team play on the
part of the entire team. Haws and Carlino are not going to look for the man
open for the best shot. That isn't their style. I wish Carlino well
wherever he lands. I suspect he may be like Heaps, a star that ultimately
doesn't deliver for a poor team either. But I will always see Carlino as a
classy guy and a good young man who will go far; likely not in basketball.
Remember all that excitement of Carlino transferring From UCLA. Well just
direct that excitement to the transfer of UNLV's 10th best player. Woo
Hoo! Transfers seldom work out.
Weeks ago when asked if he was going to return he was non-committal. Apparently
it was obvious to many he was going to leave. I don't remember which
reporter asked if he was going to leave, but since its not a typical question
asked to juniors it must have been well known, even if byu coaches wont admit to
it. Either that or reporters knew but somehow the coaches had no clue.Good decision by Matt - best of luck