Jay Evensen: More cigarettes are being smuggled into Utah, but that's OK

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  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    March 27, 2014 1:34 p.m.

    To "Open Minded Mormon" actually the for profit insurance companies don't make much money either. They average around 3% profits. Those are not huge profits. Your power company has higher profit margins, along with Apple computers, medical device manufacturers, accountants, and about 20 other industries some of which supply healthcare related products.

    The problem isn't profit in insurance companies, it is taxes on medical devices and lab companies. Not to mention the regulations that cost the businesses so much to operate.

    However, if you want to just talk profits, how about the ACA. Did you know that when it was first proposed it was going to raise tax revenues by $900 billion, and reduce the deficit by $300 billion. That means that the government was going to tax you and profit by 30% since they were charging you that much more than what their services cost. Why don't you complain about that?

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    March 27, 2014 1:06 p.m.

    To "Open Minded Mormon" you do realize that in Canada they are not paying the full retail price for the medications. They are getting them at a subsidized rate. The canadian government should be thanked for those cheap meds. You also have all of the taxes and regulations that the US government puts on the US drug companies. You can also thank the Canadian government for their fascist price controls that allows the government to dictate the price of medications. So, the Drug companies end up charging their US customers more to make up the price difference when selling to Canada. Make sure you thank Canada and other nations for helping to make us pay more to subsidize them.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    March 27, 2014 10:24 a.m.

    Happy Valley Heretic
    Orem, UT


    This is what chaps me most about the uber-far-right.

    A complete lack and disregard of integrity.

    When we livved in Seattle,
    Most of my co-workers would slip up to Canada for non-emergent healthcare.

    Their cash prices was usually cheaper than their Insurance deductables.
    I know a guy here in Utah who is Chartering Medical Vacations to Mexico for Surgeries.
    pennies on the Dollar -- and that's WITH Insurance.

    It's not the Doctors who are making the money,
    It's the FOR-profit Insurance Companies.

    As for Jay and his tobacco smuggling he's OK with,
    I wonder why the local Native Aermicans's have not picked up on this in Utah.

    The Reservatives in other States have Casinos, sell FireWorks, and Tobacco with NO taxes!
    And Washington State had a $3 a pack tax -- twice that of Utah,
    and had less "gentiles" smoking -- smoking tobacco, that is ;-)

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    March 27, 2014 9:38 a.m.

    @Open Minded. My dad's ward in Fountain Hills AZ, organized senior drug and dental visits to mexico every month. At some point gouging or taxing creates the black market.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    March 27, 2014 6:39 a.m.

    What cracks me is guys who cry "Free Market, Free Market",
    and then cheer "Regulation, Regulation".


    BTW - Jay,
    The same goes true for America and Canada.

    Americans go to Canada by to buy Perscription Drugs,
    and smuggle them back "daily" by the bus load.
    Because of the artifically inflated gouging by American taxes.

    I suppose Jay is "OK" with that then too?

  • gmlewis Houston, TX
    March 26, 2014 3:09 p.m.

    If the tax truly resulted in a huge drop in under-age smoking, then that trumps every other consideration. Those who say this affects lower-income folks will rejoice that the poor kids are coming out far better than their richer addicted peers.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    March 26, 2014 12:37 p.m.

    I told you so!!

    I was one of the many who argued continually on this forum and others that people would simply "blackmarket" them. Just so you know, most of them come in via truckers from other states. They use it to supplement their wages.

    I also believe that: its' a totally unfair tax; and that the tax affects lower-income people worse than others. I KNOW that lower-income folks will get the money for smokes one way or another, even if it means going without food for their families.

    AND, I find it hilarious that the state of Utah will soon have a lower revenue stream due to the blackmarket factor but also electronic cigarettes; that the state doesn't seem to be able to figure out how to tax.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    March 26, 2014 11:14 a.m.

    I'm glad you're OK with it, because it works for liquor, too. And lottery tickets. Trust me.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    March 26, 2014 7:57 a.m.

    Who doesn't want free agency? An old Indian Chief said; he doesn't trust any one who doesn't smoke. Lets smoke the peace pipe.