What Republicans and Democrats increasingly have in common

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  • Stalwart Sentinel San Jose, CA
    March 26, 2014 1:25 a.m.

    Jazzsmack - I hate to break it to you but I am simultaneously a Mormon and part of the "extreme left." Granted, my experience is anecdotal but the common theoretic difference in social policy is conservatives seek to create a nation that only reflects their subjective values and esteems their beliefs above all others whereas we liberals are governed by secular laws that are applied equally to all irrespective of our own personal beliefs. I know it may seem strange to you but even though I have my own personal religious convictions, I do not seek to impose those on other people.

    What "research" do liberals ignore? Be specific.

    I cannot divine with certainty your disdain for education but I can guess it likely pertains to established truths such as evolution and climate change. I'm sorry but if your twisted version of religious zealotry does not allow you to accept foundational science then how can you expect to grasp any information-based concept? This goes to my earlier point: if your basis for approaching solutions to social problems is faulty then your conclusion will inherently be faulty as well - stop scapegoating your political party's inadequacies onto us.

  • Jazzsmack Holladay, UT
    March 25, 2014 6:48 p.m.

    @Stalwart Sentinel

    Unfortunately the left rejects any research that comes from any person or organization that opposes their view.

    I would not expect any negativity or push back from those that share your views.

    Clearly the left is intolerant and even hateful of any that do oppose their views,

    just read the comment from them about sarah plain, Mike lee, Glenn beck, Rush, Fox news, the heritage foundation, the eagle forum, the Mormons, utah republicans, the tea party, the conservative, the republicans, and really any person, group or organization on the right.

    The left does not care about actual research just so-called research that supports their views a and comes from the groups they like, and constantly reject anything else.

    And they quickly and constantly demonize and diminish any group, organization, or person with opposing views.

    Even your first, second and last paragraph is an example.

    tolerance? who's kidding who?

    Perhaps you should pay more attention, do research and look who the extreme left, the liberals and the and the progressives are and what they stand for and what children are being taught in school, and actually listening to the other side.

  • Stalwart Sentinel San Jose, CA
    March 25, 2014 11:43 a.m.

    Jazzmack - My commentary was based off actual demographic projections and your response was off topic; rather you lashed out by claiming liberals are equivalent to communists who seek to indoctrinate the masses. Your assertions are based off what specific statistical/scientific research?

    I'm sorry but you cannot simply make inflammatory, unfounded statements and expect to be taken seriously. I myself am Mormon and have yet to experience a single shred of religious intolerance in my life from the Left; rather the religious intolerance in America stems from the Right. Those of us on the Left don't want "one party rule" as you suggest; rather we are fighting for (and will win) a society wherein policies are forged using actual research and not succumbing to personal biases.

    If your political persuasions for the masses are informed by your own personal moral convictions then you will be wrong 100% of the time, which is why conservatism is currently undergoing a slow death.

  • Jazzsmack Holladay, UT
    March 24, 2014 7:02 p.m.


    Once again, we have a Left Wing extremist lashing out against pragmatists and moderates with charges of extremism.

    You are doing the exact same thing.

    Judge not...yada yada yada.

  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    March 24, 2014 5:20 a.m.

    "Patriot" - You're projecting again. That particular Freudian defense mechanism, along with denial, is especially favored by Right Wingers I see.

    Once again, we have a Right Wing extremist lashing out against pragmatists and moderates with charges of extremism.

    No surprise there.

    Hitler and the Nazis did the same thing, Godwin notwithstanding.

  • Jazzsmack Holladay, UT
    March 23, 2014 5:36 p.m.

    @Stalwart Sentinel

    And then we will all be living under communist-like regime, no religious freedom, no individual freedom, no economic freedom, no state rights, institutionalized indoctrination,

    no freedom, but what big government dictates you can have,

    won't that be fun,

    all because the left only wanted one party rule, and no compromise, no opposition governed by a new class of "elites"

    What will a "big tent" mean then?

    Lets seriously pray your prediction never sees the light of day.

  • Stalwart Sentinel San Jose, CA
    March 23, 2014 10:34 a.m.

    Patriot - Spoken out of true desperation and coming from someone who's party is literally dying off day by day. You should check our Nation's demographics, my friend. In the long term, the GOP doesn't even feature. The future's actual political battles will be exclusively between moderates and liberals on the left.

    My advice to folks like you: cherish the off-year, mid-term election victories while you can still even manage those because that will soon fade too. It's becoming increasingly clear that GOP policies fail on the national stage which is why most conservatives are hunkering down in state legislatures and all GOP-backed policies are happening on an ever-decreasing scale. You've lost the nation, soon you'll lose states like Texas, then you'll lose states like Mississippi, and all you'll have left to hide under are counties/cities/municipalities - and time will ensure you lose those too.

  • GK Willington Salt Lake City, UT
    March 23, 2014 9:32 a.m.

    I could go about how the gop is only big enough for tea party wing nuts or the religious right and the Global corporations but won't.

    What both parties have in common is way to many ivy leaguers calling the shots!

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    March 22, 2014 11:37 p.m.

    A big tent for the Democrat party? How about a card board box? This party is ruled by extremist nuts. The divide between the left and the right is as deep and wide as the Grand Canyon and the ONLY way forward is to defeat this radical bunch of Socialist Hippies once and for all. There is NO common ground and there is NO compromise. Those days are long gone. Ronald Reagan was once asked his thoughts on the Cold War with the USSR. He said "it's simple, we win and they lose". Well said Ronnie. My thoughts exactly ...just replace the USSR with the Democrat party. What is needed is a third party replacing the Democrat party...a party of moderate and reasonable liberal people who you can actually work with.