Richard Davis: Obamacare enrollment is indication of success

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  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    March 21, 2014 8:04 a.m.

    "Guess the typical Faux News parrots are all over this article, what a surprise"
    And it no surprise that left wing posters go into a hypocritical tizzy when their PMSNBC dogma is questioned. Does that qualify as "civil" dialogue?

    Signing up is not the same as actually buying
    As long as more people are losing health care than are gaining it - it remains a failure
    If the uninsured are not buying, then its a failure

    Despite Davis' apologetics: Obamacare so far is a failure - and is structurally set up to be a failure - presumably to tee up single payer,


  • GaryO Virginia Beach, VA
    March 20, 2014 6:59 a.m.

    "Regardless of one’s feelings about Obamacare, the administration deserves credit for bringing so many Americans into a new health care program that will have an enormous, positive impact on many Americans who previously lacked affordable, adequate health care coverage."


    Isn't it interesting how the ACA has delineated the major national parties?

    On one side of the issue, we have solid Americans who know the ACA will work, and they want to facilitate it and fine tune it to be a wonderful tool and service for the good of America and Americans.

    And on the other side? . . . Wow! A whole bunch of upset people, seething in anger, and looking for ways to sabotage the ACA at every opportunity, even if it means harming the nation.

    Isn't there a name for Americans who want to inflict harm upon America and Americans?

    . . . Something like . . . Seditionists? . . . or traitors?

  • PeanutGallery Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2014 4:10 a.m.

    This is Mr. Davis’s usual cheerleading for big government and government coercion. How about some cheerleading for the Constitution, individual liberty, and limited government? Our founders would be appalled at Obamacare.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    March 19, 2014 6:42 p.m.


    You can't refine a pile of steaming garbage and make it better.

    It must be replaced.

    There are better solutions than the evils of socialism. Unfortunately the extreme left wants to hear none of it. And reject anything that doesn't embrace socialism.

    What are your suggestions? You obviously know it has deep problems.

  • E Sam Provo, UT
    March 19, 2014 5:41 p.m.

    Excellent, informed article. Yes, it's working, not without a few glitches, but it's working quite well. It won't be an issue in the 2016 Presidential election.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    March 19, 2014 1:10 p.m.

    Spin gloom and doom like the tea party wants to hear. Is this not the end of the world if successful?

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    March 19, 2014 1:09 p.m.

    Here's a few more tidbits I've recently heard about contained in the fine print of the hundreds, (or is it thousands?) of pages of ACA.
    1. You might be covered for a pre-existing condition, say cancer, but that does not necessarily mean the cost of the treatment or medicine will be covered.

    2. If you have two pre-existing conditions, like cancer and a heart problem, pick one, because in some cases both won't be covered.

    3. And although it isn't in the bill, we have all heard about the number of doctors and hospitals that are just not going to play with Obamacare at all. Finally, anecdotal maybe, but it makes sense. Apparantly a lot of the "best and brightest" in America who would in normal circumstances go for an MD career, are opting out of medical school for other professions due to the possible restrictions on making the kind of money they would have expected, and or having big brother looking over their shoulder. So the 2nd and 3rd tier students might to be the doctors of the future. Something to think about.

  • B. Johnson Orem, UT
    March 19, 2014 12:04 p.m.

    I support him being "contrary to the company line," I figured that was clear with my statement that I appreciate open dialogue on the issues. What I have little tolerance for is uninformed or unaware dialogue. If you are going to express your opinion on an issue, you ought to know what you are talking about. That's all.
    As far as being bitter, look up Davis' past and you'll understand what I'm talking about. He was a republican and ran for offices under that hat for a while. When he couldn't get elected, he switched to the other side where there is unfortunately no competition in Utah. Do your homework and you'll understand what I'm talking about.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    March 19, 2014 11:46 a.m.

    LOU Montana
    Hope your insurance includes cancer treatment centers. Today’s article in the DN says most are not covered. I got covered, too bad for everyone else who is much worse off now. Is that a selfish or a selfless attitude?

    Get sick and die or go bankrupt?
    If you think that was the only plan offered by the repubs you must have been watching too much MSNBC.

    See my earlier comment – your comment indicates you ignore positions you do not like.

    Anyone who disagrees with you is a parrot? Yes, the tolerance of the left is so dazzling I cannot see.

    You’ve been in Davis’s class? You say the GOP does nothing? Too much MSNBC for you!

    You say the law passed and they are still arguing about whether or not to get on the train. How about BO, who is unilaterally changing and delaying parts of the law? Can you say HE is on board with his own signature law when even he cannot decide what to do with it? talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 19, 2014 11:10 a.m.

    B. Johnson, I don't find Davis to be bitter. Just because he ssays things contrary to the company line? I find that refreshing, especially coming out of the bastian of the right wing. Let's not go calling the kettle black....

  • B. Johnson Orem, UT
    March 19, 2014 10:33 a.m.

    DesNews, I understand you are trying to offer another perspective on the issue, but a more informed opinion than that of Mr. Davis would be productive. I had "Professor" Davis while attending BYU and he is nothing more than a bitter man who couldn't get elected to any office in the republican party so switched to the democrats where nobody cares and he could "feel" important.

    I appreciate open dialogue on all issues, but I find Mr. Davis' opinion of the actual situation of the ACA to be on par with the republicans' regarding social issues... totally lacking in awareness.

    Shape up your next opinion piece Davis.

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    March 19, 2014 10:32 a.m.

    OK Mr. Davis. Answer the question that Kathleen Sebelius, who runs the program, could not answer a couple of day ago. How many who have "signed up", have actually paid any premiums? Why is a few million signed up seen as some kind of success? Remember the original purpose of the ACA? 40 million uninsured citizens who needed health insurance? Why is 7 million considered such a success? What, 30 something million don't need health care yet? Or are they just going to wait until they do need it, and then sign up, which I suspect is what is really happening. And, to all of you who think the ACA is such a great success, why has Obama had to modify with his pen so much of the original bill? So much so, that he recently said that anyone with a hardship can opt out of even being fined for not signing up. Which, essentially gives any citizen the option to not pay until needed. And then signing up when they do. And, many are finding that the A part of ACA is not so affordable after all.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    March 19, 2014 10:15 a.m.

    Mr. Davis please tell me they are not experementing with medical marijuana down there!

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    March 19, 2014 10:11 a.m.

    Good to hear.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    March 19, 2014 10:09 a.m.

    The way I hear it

    "They count anyone as enrolled anyone who adds an Obamacare health insurance plan into their shopping cart. Put another way, it would be akin to counting their books, CDs, and other merchandise as sold whenever a customer adds it to their shopping cart regardless of whether they end up paying for it.
    By this loose definition of enrollment, the administration claims that 5 million people have enrolled into Obamacare. However, this loose definition requires a new metric to go along with it and it is called the “non-payment rate” or the rate of people who don’t actually buy the product in their shopping carts. It is estimated to be 20% nationwide but as high as 50% in some states. Coupled with the percentage of people for which Obamacare is not replacing existing coverage, which is thought to be 30%, this leaves only 1 million new enrollees."

  • Whatever Springville, UT
    March 19, 2014 9:37 a.m.

    Guess the typical Faux News parrots are all over this article, what a surprise. Of course the tea party with it's whopping 9% approval rating still has no idea how to fix anything so they just the repeating same worn out AM radio gloom and doom nonsense they've been spouting for years.

    Hey tea party, why don't you do something really useful and try to get rid of Obamacare and FAIL miserably for the 50th plus time? That's pretty much the entire legacy of your "party".

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    March 19, 2014 9:26 a.m.

    Lots of sour grapes here today. Yes, Obamacare is imperfect. But it's a whole lot better than the "let them get sick and die or go bankrupt" health reform the Republicans offered (in other words, no reform). A very belated effort by Orrin Hatch and friends was nothing but a political stunt, since they knew it wouldn't go anywhere.

    So, here's a novel idea. Since the ACA is not perfect, let's do some revision, as we did with Medicare and who knows how many other government programs, and fix what needs fixing. Someday we may achieve the obvious goals of any health-care system: quality care for all citizens at affordable prices. Complaining and making 40-odd symbolic attempts to repeal the law is counterproductive.

    By the way, Mike, I think I missed your comment on the "My View" today. Nothing to say about people dying because the GOP won't expand Medicaid?

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    March 19, 2014 9:12 a.m.

    I am a cancer survivor and lost all my retirement to the previous medical system. I also tried to get private insurance prior to Obamacare and the premiums offered was more then two thousand dollars a month. Last week my wife and I bought medical insurance because I am recently unemployed and the premiums is less than five hundred dollars a month, with no deductible for myself. This is proof that Obamacare is working!

    There is one word for employers who drop their medical insurance "GREED"! Employers need to give back to the people who are making their businesses successful.

  • Tyler D Meridian, ID
    March 19, 2014 9:12 a.m.

    Unfortunately this article highlights one of the two reasons we were told by conservatives why Obamacare will be a disaster.

    First, we were told Obamacare will be a disaster because… well, it will be a disaster. It will raise premiums, bankrupt providers, kill jobs, destroy freedom, cause climate change, and presage the 2nd Coming. OK, I made up the last two but in my defense it’s hard to tone down the hyperbole after listening to AM talk radio during the morning commute.

    Second, we were told that people would like it (meaning it would be a stunning success?) and that this fact too would bring about many of the problems cited above, including likely the 2nd Coming – note to self: reprogram radio presets.

    And we were told all this without any sense of irony (no doubt because what’s important in partisan politics is not logic or reason, but winning).

    The effects of the ACA will likely take years to accrue throughout the economy, but as conservatives are always reminding us with respect to climate change (again, with no irony), “hey, it won’t be that bad.”

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 19, 2014 9:02 a.m.

    It is working. And rather than offering ideas to refine and make it better, all the GOP can do is vote to repeal, time after time, after what, 3 to 4 years? They can't even agree on what alternative to vote on. The GOP complains, but then can do nothing. The ACA passed years ago. The train left the station. The GOP is still arguing over whether they should get on it. If this is leadership, heaven help us if they get back into power. (Oh wait, I haven't forgotten the fiasco of their last run in the White House! Please no, never again!)

  • Steve C. Warren WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    March 19, 2014 8:52 a.m.

    Thanks, Richard, for an informed analysis of the ACA. I hope it continues to make progress and that we can move toward single-payer.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    March 19, 2014 8:38 a.m.

    I see the DN’s chief BO cheerleader is at it again.

    A success, huh?

    I wonder if he knew the DN would print an article about how most cancer treatment centers are not covered in Obamacare plans – but those nuns dang well better have contraceptives!

    So easy to ignore those millions who lost their insurance because of Obamacare.

    Easy to ignore those left out by Obamacare.

    Easy to ignore the cost estimates were waaaaaay too low and the actual costs – to the feds and individuals – are significantly higher

    Success in people signing up, yeah – you pay a penalty if you do not. Stalin was successful in filling the gulags when he had the weight of his government behind the effort.

    You could also say the doctors who prescribed an anti-nausea medicine for pregnant women were successful – until they later learned the drug lead to horrific birth defects. but nevermind the side effects of Obamacare

    He ignores the job losses and other drags on the economy from Obamacare.
    the actuary for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services estimates 65% of small businesses will likely incur higher premiums this year under Obamacare

  • samhill Salt Lake City, UT
    March 19, 2014 8:15 a.m.

    Oh, Brother!? Sorry Mr. Davis. You're not that good of a salesman.

    Of course, neither is the entire Obama administration and the solely Democrat legislators who shoved this monstrosity down our throats.

    Though I haven't found an affordable health insurance plan for almost 14 years due to a pre-existing condition, I'll be one of the people who reject this latest and nearly perfect example of governmental incompetence and intrusion.

    Judging from your eyes-wide-shut appraisal of Obamacare, it appears I value my freedom more than you do yours.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    March 19, 2014 8:11 a.m.

    How many of those "enrollees" have health insurance that is subsidized by the public? The figures are meaningless unless we know which plans are selling. Telling us that 5,000,000 more people have their hands out for government assistance is not something to be proud of.

    ObamaCare has ruined my health insurance. Prescriptions have gone from $30 a month to $150 a month. Now, I get one co-pay per year for a routine blood test and physical. I have to pay over $550 per visit the other three times for a visit and blood test just to get the prescriptions that I need. And, now we pay over $400 per month for insurance where before we paid less than $150 per month. Where's the $2,500 per year savings that Obama promised? Where is my old insurance plan? Obama promised us that if we liked our insurance, we could keep it? I'm still waiting for the $2,500 check and I want my old policy. It met our needs perfectly.

    March 19, 2014 7:53 a.m.

    The only thing that will be successful regarding Obamacare, is that it will destroy the current health care system so that government can step in to provide the progressives dream of single payer government controlled health care.

  • Mikhail ALPINE, UT
    March 19, 2014 1:05 a.m.

    Mr. Davis is trying to put lipstick on the pig. One Million new enrollees for insurance, when 7 Million were projected. Leaving 30 Million without insurance, still. Can't keep you doctor. Private insurance is more expensive, not less - as promised. Keep drinking the Koolaid, Professor. Reality isn't the illusion that you are trying to sell. Other fixes are available at a smaller cost and without the sacrifice of freedom. Of course, Professors know better than all the working hacks - that is why the current executive department has less people who have real world experience than any other administration in history.