Former 'Two and a Half Men' actor talks about faith and leaving the show

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  • The Caravan Moves On Enid, OK
    March 20, 2014 1:37 p.m.

    You know what?

    For the first time (and perhaps only time?) I actually agree with RanchHand.

    If you do something that is hypocritical and are paid for it, it becomes in a sense, 'dirty' money. I'm glad he left the show but how can he find true peace when the perks of the show (money) are used later on?

    That's one heck of a tough proposition but the Savior said we should "take up our cross" and follow Him.

  • Mister J Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2014 1:24 p.m.

    re: windsor 3/19

    Charlie Sheen walked away from the show too. Angus Jones ran away screaming like a little girl.

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    March 20, 2014 1:19 p.m.

    to: joe5

    "Who are you to determine the ground rules for someone else's life decisions?"

    What are you saying Ranch should start a religion?

  • slcdenizen t-ville, UT
    March 19, 2014 6:59 p.m.

    @ joe5

    Great point. I agree that we should abstain from being too judgmental of others, applying empathy and encouragement when necessary. However, rather than simply leaving the television show citing personal reasons, he broadcast his grievances and attempted to apply a universal understanding of morals and should be duly criticized. An individual's life journey is their business, but expressed viewpoints regarding the conduct of others is public domain and should not go unchallenged. I would not attempt to vilify a particular ideology or movement without expecting a response, nor should anyone for that matter.

  • I know it. I Live it. I Love it. Provo, UT
    March 19, 2014 6:49 a.m.


    He IS giving back the money.

    1) Use the money to get a degree
    2) Use degree to influence more people for good

    That isn't hypocrisy, it's fulfillment.

    If you earned $10k doing something wrong, and want to change. Giving it back to someone who'll only use it for wrong is worse. Taking it and using it for good, spinning it's purpose to help others instead... that makes a lot more sense for someone who's actually had a change of heart.

    If Hugh Hefner joined the LDS Church, I wouldn't expect him to give his money back... I'd hope that he'd pay tithing and use his money to help others, do what's good, etc. We're all taught to serve those in need. If he did that, how could I possibly judge him and not come under condemnation myself? Furthermore, if I wasn't even paying tithing myself, I'm in even less of a position to judge.

    Fulfilling the conditions of our repentance doesn't include undoing the impossible. It requires a broken heart and contrite spirit.

  • windsor City, Ut
    March 19, 2014 5:41 a.m.

    This "half-man" is more man than any of the 'men' connected with that show. for having the gumption to stand up and walk away.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    March 18, 2014 4:10 p.m.

    slcdenizen: The problem is that we have too many people concerned about others instead of themselves.

    I have no idea who this guy is but let's just say that everything he did was wrong and that he is an ultimate hypocrite and that he is not truly repentant and this is all just for publicity. So what? Why are there people who feel their role is to catch someone in his errors?

    I can understand it if it is something that has a direct bearing on his life or if it is destructive to our society or if it going to cause people to run riot in the streets. But shouldn't there be some level where we pick our battles and focus on things that are really important instead of the nits? What kind of joy can a person have in life if all they ever see are the stains and smudges of others?

  • Tumbleweed Centerville, UT
    March 18, 2014 4:09 p.m.

    @Ranch: No! He needs to KEEP the money that allows him the freedom to spread the Word of God. The only way he can really make it up is to have the financial freedom to do what he's doing.

  • slcdenizen t-ville, UT
    March 18, 2014 8:30 a.m.


    If seeking God is a private matter, why does it seem like a constant beauty contest of showcasing one's righteousness? Could we not simply forego the opportunity to try and shame others for not holding the same values as our own as if there is some universal dictate from God which religion is correct and thus which values should supercede others? This publicity stunt is less of an expression of sincere belief in God, but rather an opportunity to showcase the Seventh Day Adventist style of religion and obscure the distinct lines drawn between Christian sects, all of which claiming to follow the same Bible.

    Ask yourself, if the actor had simply quit the show as a humanist expression against misogynistic portrayals in the media, would the reception be the same? Would it even make the headlines in this newspaper?

  • Jamescmeyer Midwest City, USA, OK
    March 18, 2014 6:55 a.m.

    One's journey with God is not a private matter; people will question and comment and wonder and scorn, but if you're not personally compelled to share a journey towards Him with others who will isten, you may want to double check which road you're really on.

    As for following dreams, sometimes a person's dream growing up turns out not to be quite a dream after all. I always wanted to be a game designer when I was young-for my entire life I wanted to make video games. When the time and opportunity came to follow that dream, I began to realize that it wasn't quite what I thought it was, and that it would take me places and put me with people that I didn't want to be with. Not to put down games too much, but there isn't a good environment for making them right now. This person may have decided the same thing about acting on that show.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 17, 2014 11:14 p.m.

    @Ranch, Who made you the ultimate authority on the steps of repentance? You have no idea what steps he's taken and his steps are just as valid as any claims you make for what the "steps" are.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    March 17, 2014 11:02 p.m.

    RanchHand/Tolstoy: Why do you care? What skin is off your nose? Some of us aren't perfect and we just need a little latitude to do the best we can.

    I just don't understand what drives a person to belittle another person's choices. I'm certain it doesn't even matter to the subject of the article. He probably won't even read the comments on here. So what it really does is reflect on the person who criticizes. So why would someone expose their critical natures like that?

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    March 17, 2014 9:56 p.m.

    @ joe5: If he wants his journey with God to be his own, he needs to keep it private - you can't put something out in the world and not expect it to be questioned and commented on.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    March 17, 2014 8:25 p.m.


    He said he had been a hypocrite for working against his beliefs to make money; it only seems reasonable to give it back if he feels he was a hypocrite to make it as he did. Keeping it just perpetuates the hypocrisy.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    March 17, 2014 4:51 p.m.

    Ranch: Seriously? Can a man just have his journey with God be his own instead of having to satisfy the expectations of someone else? Who are you to determine the ground rules for someone else's life decisions?

  • Ranch Here, UT
    March 17, 2014 2:45 p.m.

    The first step in repentance is restitution. Has the young man given back his ill-gotten gains? If not, his hypocrisy continues.

  • slcdenizen t-ville, UT
    March 17, 2014 2:20 p.m.

    This is Tom Cruise 25 years ago when he was coerced into joining scientology. He should at least continue acting rather than abandon his natural talent as Cruise did. Fads come and go but we should never encourage our youth to stop living their dreams because articulate men convince them to joing a movement.