BYU earns NCAA at-large bid; will face Oregon in Milwaukee

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  • Sports Are Great Salt Lake City, UT
    March 18, 2014 8:01 p.m.

    Flinch, my point is quite simple; it needs to be for Utah "fans" to understand. Everyone knows that difference in quality of opponents doesn't explain the spread between the two games.

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    March 18, 2014 2:37 p.m.

    Two for Flinching,
    Utah has no history of dancing as member of the mighty PAC12!!! All of their tourney history came as part of that rabble rousers called Mid-majors!!!

    Go Cougs beat the Ducks!!!

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    March 17, 2014 10:44 p.m.

    @ Sports Are Great

    Depends on the game. Utah lost to Arizona by 9, 4, and 32 in their three meetings this season. I'm not sure what you're trying to argue, because Arizona is head and shoulders above Gonzaga. Everybody knows that.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    March 17, 2014 8:16 p.m.


    State champs don't usually go undefeated.

    BYU has the most in-state victories, and are in the NCAA tournament.

    Nuff said!---NCAA tournament!

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    March 17, 2014 7:26 p.m.

    I'm still wondering how this happened. I could see a play-in game. I can't see BYU beating Oregon minus Collinsworth as a cog in the gears. Maybe we'll see someone just Rise Up and make a name for this team in Cougar lore. Next year, I can see this team being one of the best in the country though.

  • Lifelong Ute Salt Lake City, UT
    March 17, 2014 5:00 p.m.


    "Isn't it funny that byu hasn't gone past the sweet 16 in several decades?

    And byu has zero final fours EVER"

    That's what I said. YOUR ignorance is showing now isn't it?

  • Lifelong Ute Salt Lake City, UT
    March 17, 2014 4:59 p.m.


    "Your basketball ignorance is showing"

    NO, it is your ignorance showing. Go read what I wrote. I said byu hasn't advanced PAST the sweet 16 in several decades, and that would be correct.

    You are wrong.

  • Ken Sandy, UT
    March 17, 2014 4:19 p.m.

    @Copacetic - You do realize the difference between advanced past the sweet 16 and making it to the sweet 16 is right? Lifelong Ute said byU hasn't made it PAST the sweet 16 in a long time. You misstated what he said.

    But don't let facts get in your way of spin

  • Sports Are Great Salt Lake City, UT
    March 17, 2014 3:55 p.m.


    Just how big of a spread would be due to the fact Arizona is better? 10? 20? 50? I guess if byu lost by 1 and Utah lost by 100 you'd still be chalking it up to better competition for Utah? Great logic there pal.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    March 17, 2014 3:17 p.m.

    "Another fact: Losing by 11 (BYU's last game) is obviously much better than losing by 32 (Utah's last game)."

    Losing is losing. However, the point spread can easily be explained by the fact that Utah played a top 5 team, while BYU played one that is unranked.

  • Don't Feed the Trolls Salt Lake City, UT
    March 17, 2014 2:57 p.m.

    newhall, CA
    "I think it's great, but I also believe Oregon will beat BYU by 20 points. It's going to be ugly."

    Ugly is 32 points...

  • Objectified Tooele, UT
    March 17, 2014 12:53 p.m.

    @ sg:

    Since it took overtime for Oregon to beat BYU at Oregon, what is your reasoning for thinking Oregon will "crush BYU by 20 points" at a neutral site? That makes no objective sense at all. Another Chris prediction?

    But to be fair to you, you're not alone. You have quite a few fellow Ute fans who also spout things that make no objective sense. And when they keep doing so, as some do, they soon lose all credibility with most other readers. They often make me smile, roll my eyes, and wonder if they are posting during high school class breaks.

    When a key player goes down on a team, that team often uses that for motivation to pick it up and perform even better. That happened in BYU's last game against Gonzaga. After Kyle got hurt, BYU actually narrowed Gonzaga's lead and soon-after forced coach Few to take a time-out to regroup. That motivation could carry over into this next game with Oregon. I wouldn't bet the house against it.

    Another fact: Losing by 11 (BYU's last game) is obviously much better than losing by 32 (Utah's last game).

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    March 17, 2014 12:30 p.m.

    Oregon is better than the Y. BYU will have to play it's best game of the season to get past the first round.

  • Sagacious Logan, UT
    March 17, 2014 12:26 p.m.

    @ Go Red:

    Once again Utah won the one-day battle while BYU ended up winning the season-long war. Had those 2 teams played in Provo, BYU would've undoubtedly won both the battle and war.

    When all statistics were taken into consideration, BYU is currently ranked #33 and Utah #81. The facts speak for themselves. And season-long facts carry a lot more weight than a single-game result.

    The selection committee is made up of college basketball experts from all around the country. As such, what they think of BYU carries a whole lot more weight than what a few very biased Ute fans think. And the NCAA versus NIT seeding confirms that.

    Utah was very good at home this year. But they often laid eggs on the road, as their last game with that record-setting performance for futility confirmed.
    One would think that getting blown out 71-39 would've (and should've) quieted some of their more obnoxious fans for awhile. But being that engrained, it apparently didn't.

    Good luck Cougars. That first game is very winnable.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    March 17, 2014 12:20 p.m.

    Mark it down:

    St Mary's will beat Utah.
    Oregon should beat BYU without Collinsworth, but I'll take BYU and the points.

    I remember BYU crushing Washington and Oregon last year.

  • Copacetic Logan, UT
    March 17, 2014 11:56 a.m.

    Chris and the customary anti-BYU naysayers...

    BYU has a credible chance in the first round. As they took Oregon to OT when playing at Oregon, playing at a neutral site would seem to give the edge to BYU.

    But even if BYU happens to lose in the first round, one-and-done is multiple times greater than not even being invited to the Big Dance. Half of all teams who are invited end up being one-and-done. So it's not a big deal. For the record, how many years has it been since Utah has even been to the NCAA tournament? It would seem some of their fans are throwing stones while living in glass houses. Glass cracks and breaks quite easily.

    @ Lifelong Ute:

    Your basketball ignorance is showing. BYU went to the Sweet-16 just a few years ago when Jimmer was on the team... not "decades" as you claim. They came within a whisker of going to the final 8 that year. Exactly how long has it been since Utah has done that?

    It seems nearly impossible for some Ute fans to give any credit to anyone besides the Utes. Sad.

  • TXAfghanVet Dallas, TX
    March 17, 2014 10:46 a.m.

    Glad the Cougs are in. Sad that Collinsworth is out. Still trying to figure out if it's better to be one-and-done, or none-and-done? I'll have to think on that for while.

    And if I were a fan of a school that was in a conference that sent half the conference to the dance, but my team stayed home, again, I'm not sure I'd crow about it.

    As for the Final Four appearances, next time I'm on the hill, I'll have to stop by and see the trophy....oh, wait.

  • CougarCat Tucson, AZ
    March 17, 2014 10:04 a.m.

    BYU - 1st round vs. Oregon - a rematch against a bunch the Cougars almost took out in the fall. With KC out it's time for some guys to step up. Halford, Bartley, Sharp, Worthington....and of course the hot and cold Carlino....let's see what you guys can do. Each of you should be getting more minutes this time around.

    P.S. to the W.S. Wildcats - too bad you got our Tucson Wildcats right off the bat - otherwise I'd be pulling for you too.

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    March 17, 2014 9:53 a.m.

    Go Red,
    The selection committee does not just look at W-L record but at RPI and SOS! BYU had a much better overall strength of schedule then Utah! Byu earned this seeding and now has to earn a win and a next game!!! Utah earned a #5 seed in the NIT with a very weak OOC and they will have to win a road game to continue their season!!!

    Go Cougs beat the Ducks!!! Good luck to the rest of the Utah teams!!!

  • Ed Grady Idaho Falls, ID
    March 17, 2014 9:22 a.m.

    All this anger and envy from the Utes is .... sweet.

  • Allen Salt Lake valley, UT
    March 17, 2014 8:54 a.m.

    It's interesting to see who supports their conference and who supports the state.

  • Old Scarecrow Brigham City, UT
    March 17, 2014 5:16 a.m.

    One and done beats none and none every time. And just maybe . . .? That's how true fans are supposed to feel!

  • CBAX Provo, UT
    March 17, 2014 4:49 a.m.

    Bowling and dancing. It all sounds like a YSA ward without imagination.

  • agb Layton, UT
    March 17, 2014 4:20 a.m.

    Ute fans are a curious bunch indeed. Normally we hear "better to play and lose in the PAC than win in the WCC" and "at least the Utes don't play in high school gyms." But according to ute fan logic it's better to play in a high school gym in the NIT than against a PAC 12 opponent in the NCAA tourney.

    But fret not u fans I'm sure the same researchers that came up with a solution for cold fusion can come up with a cure for your cognitive dissonance.

  • sg newhall, CA
    March 17, 2014 12:55 a.m.

    I think it's great, but I also believe Oregon will beat BYU by 20 points. It's going to be ugly. BYU is not that good a team. They are slow and they can't hit the 3 on a consistent basis. They will NOT advance past their round. Go Ducks!

  • Yankees24 SLC, UT
    March 17, 2014 12:42 a.m.

    I find it quite amusing that Utah fans are on here bashing BYU for making the tourney while their Utes are in the NIT. Without Collinsworth I think BYU's chances are pretty slim. Oregon has the better team, but BYU is very capable of pulling off the upset. It should be quite a game.

  • Bastiatarian TUCSON, AZ
    March 17, 2014 12:19 a.m.


    Yes, yes. I said that I DO remember when Utah was good in basketball. Utah was good relatively consistently under Majerus. That's great, but we're well into the 21st century now. After Giacoletti's first season (with Majerus' team, basically), Utah has almost always been mediocre or bad, ending up watching the post-season on TV.

    @Two For Flinching
    >Besides Arizona and UCLA, who in the PAC has a better tournament history than Utah?

    That might be a relevant point if any teams in the conference other than Arizona and UCLA actually had a solid, long-term tradition of success in basketball. A few seasons with somewhat increased competition don't make the Pac-12 a power conference. (I'm a lifelong Pac-8/10/12 fan, so I wish that it were, but it's not.) The level of competition for third best overall in the history of the Pac-10/12 is pretty low. You've got Arizona and UCLA, then a huge drop, followed by some school that has a few good seasons here and there. In addition, Utah's successes in the NCAA tournament a long time ago are irrelevant to its relative position in the Pac-12 right now.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    March 16, 2014 11:49 p.m.

    @ moderateinmagna and poyman

    Utah has been to the big dance twice in the last decade (2005, 2009). Once going to the sweet 16, the other being a one-and-done appearance.

  • BlackDiamond Provo, UT
    March 16, 2014 11:49 p.m.

    Once again I would like to thank all the Utes who are following our BYU team. It has been great having all of you following and supporting us. Please continue to follow our team as they continue on to the big dance. All the success that have we owe to our followers. Once again thanks for the support, our first game will be against the Ducks on Thursday. Much Love From Provo.

  • Linus Bountiful, UT
    March 16, 2014 11:39 p.m.

    Isn't it sad that Utah fans have had to move their loyalty from their team to their conference. I feel quite sorry for our former-conference brothers. I'll be so glad when this sibling rivalry ends and we finally and completely stop playing games against each other. Then the hate may fade.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    March 16, 2014 11:02 p.m.

    Nibley, UT

    "Not a big Cougar fan, but I have to congratulate them for getting the invitation. Wow a 10 seed is great. I think it surprised everyone. I hope you do well and win your first game, that is the only way you are going to quiet the Ute fan who post on BYU articles."

    No, the only way to quiet the gnashing of teeth from the ankle-biters on the hill is to win it all.

    In other words, prepare to tune out...

  • oldtimeftballer Salt Lake City, UT
    March 16, 2014 10:54 p.m.

    Congrats to the Utah schools....


    All the smack talk is a joke. BYU fan here, but let's win something before we spout off at the U. We haven't won a league title or conference title. We haven't won anything in a long LONG LONG time! And we may win one game if we are lucky so oz stop like we are a powerhouse. And remember Utah beat us by talk smacking them when they beat us head to head is dumb people! Guess you have short memories.

    And Utah enough. Much improved and a young team with a promising future...but like football you are learning the PAC is tough and you haven't done squat. So Coach K is great but fans get a reality check and lets hope Weber State comes closer than u vs Arizona

  • Utah Valley Guy Springville, UT
    March 16, 2014 10:32 p.m.

    Looks like the Cougars wins over Texas, Stanford, and Gonzaga while playing a lot of very good teams to close losses were given more weight than their sad losses to a few sad teams.

    Kudos to the committee for giving the Cougars a chance! The way they reacted to the news, I'm thinking that they're pretty happy to have the rematch with Oregon. Maybe they can find the mental toughness they've lacked all season. Hopefully, they're learning, as a very young team, the importance of the mental aspects of the game and how to gain the edge in that department.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    March 16, 2014 10:13 p.m.


    #33 BYU seeded 39th overall in the NCAA tournament.

    #81 Utah seeded 20th overall in the NIT tournament.

    It's pretty clear that BYU is the best overall team in the state.

  • moderateinmagna MAGNA, UT
    March 16, 2014 10:13 p.m.

    East Salt Lake City, Utah you can spin and lie all you want but tghde fact is that thee utes have not been in the ncaa in the past drecade and nothing you say will ever change that ,fact #2 BYU has owned U in the last decade as well so spin away becuz history is history sour grapes on all the utes jealousy is overtaking their common sense,Btw ST, MARY,S could do the same thing that AZ.did
    to the utes since they are playing on a high school gym as you so obviously know as that is qall we have heard for 3 years from you .thre size of the gyms that BYU plays in karma my man karma.

  • Mark321 Las Vegas, NV
    March 16, 2014 9:59 p.m.

    I hope BYU continues beefing up there non-conference schedule in future schedules similar to this year. Who would've thought BYU would get in 23-11 as an at-large bid from the WCC. Obviously that was a big factor to the committee.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    March 16, 2014 9:50 p.m.

    After the dust had settled, RPI obviously trumped BPI, just as BYU fans were saying it would.

    BYU #33 RPI, #42 BPI, in the Big Dance as the #39 overall seed for the 7th time during the Dave Rose era.

    Utah #81 RPI, #34 BPI, on the outside looking for the 8th time during the last 9 seasons.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    March 16, 2014 9:40 p.m.

    @ Bastiatarian

    Besides Arizona and UCLA, who in the PAC has a better tournament history than Utah?

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    March 16, 2014 9:37 p.m.

    So much to say and so few words...

    It must be a very bad feeling to have to take consolation in how other teams in your conference (who trounced your team) do in the NCAA Touney...

    @ crow, azute, greatute, and Yankees27
    As has already been said, one and done is far better than never to have been one, but once in the past 10 years... which btw, was a one and done appearance... lol.

    @greatute and yankee27
    Oregon will roll according to you folks as they are 8 of 9 over the past 9 games??? I believe they were 12-0 when BYU led by 10 the entire game on the Ducks home floor with friendly refs and a friendly crowd... True BYU dropped the game in OT after both Bigs fouled out and Collinsworth had missed several foul shots... I like BYU's match up against the undersized Ducks.

    Cow seems to be the cuisine of choice for many ute fans and I am hopeful that we can give them yet another course when we dispatch "a conference brother" of the underperforming, properly recognized utes...

    Indeed it is a great time to be a Cougar Fan...

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    March 16, 2014 9:28 p.m.

    @Cool Cat Cosmo
    Payson, UT

    "Congrats Cougs! Good job on earning a spot, now get ready and make us proud!"

    Make us proud? Heck dude, them getting an invite has already made us proud! Now if they're fortunate enough to win and advance, that would be just icing on the cake.

    Go Cougars! Go Wildcats! And good luck to the Utes and Aggies too in the NIT! Hope they got invited already!

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    March 16, 2014 9:05 p.m.

    BYU gets deserved respect due to their SOS and RPI, well done Cougars! Now lets go take down Oregon!

    Go Cougars!!!

  • Joe Schmoe Orem, UT
    March 16, 2014 9:00 p.m.

    So how did Utah get rewarded for being in the prestigious conference? They at least got a home game and a #1 seed in the NIT right? Right? But we are in the Pac!!! We demand prestige!

    Did you know that in the last decade Utah has been in the big dance once? Once? How did they do? One and done. Meanwhile the Cougs have been in the sweet 16.

    Why are all of these ute fans on here again?

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    March 16, 2014 8:58 p.m.


    6 PAC 12 teams... and Utah isn't one of them.
    2 WCC teams... and BYU is one of them.

    #33 BYU(23-11) #17 SOS, 8-7 versus RPI Top 100, IN the Big Dance
    #81 Utah(21-11) #104 SOS, 5-9 versus RPI Top 100, on the OUTSIDE looking in

    Despite the early season upset at home, the difference between the two programs is night and day.

    March 16, 2014 8:34 p.m.


    "BYU a ten seed in the BIG Dance, Woooooowhoooo! That must mean that the u must be a number a 4 the NIT!"

    Considering Utah demolished BYU earlier in the year, that just shows, unfortunately, the huge gap between the level of competition the Utes now face as opposed to the level of competition that BYU now faces. In some ways, it is to BYU's advantage to now be playing in an inferior league. The selection committee only glances at many of these teams' overall records without fully taking into consideration the level of competition that teams in the major conferences have to face on a weekly basis.


    "BYU, are state champs".

    I hate to burst your bubble, but that honor was decided December 14 in Salt Lake. Head-to-head competition = Utah 81 BYU 64.

  • OmahaCoug Omaha, NE
    March 16, 2014 8:08 p.m.

    When it comes to conferences and teams....

    Pac12 gets six teams in... and Utah is NOT one of them.

    WCC gets two teams in... and BYU IS one of them.

    Which matters more, your team or your conference?

    Go, Cougars!

  • tyler11385 Springville, UT
    March 16, 2014 8:00 p.m.

    I'm having a hard time finding an NIT bracket on ESPN, could someone help me locate this? :)

  • Samwise Salt Lake City, UT
    March 16, 2014 7:46 p.m.

    My hopes for the first round game would be a lot higher if Collinsworth wasn't injured, but I think it is still winnable if Carlino plays well. I am also counting on a good game from Haws, Mika, and Austin, as well as the usual from the rest of the team. But Carlino is the real wildcard for BYU. When he is good, he can be really, really good. But when he is not good, he usually is really not good. Go BYU!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 16, 2014 7:46 p.m.


    On the other hand, Utah HAS been to the tournament once in the past decade...and lost in the first round. Oh, there was the mighty march to the second round of the CBI one year as well.

    During those same years, BYU did have three one-and-dones, but also two second rounds and a Sweet Sixteen. And a semi-final game in the NIT.


    Depends on how you count the past decade, do you count it from 2004-2013 or 2005-2014? Either way Utah has a Sweet 16 and is either 2-3 or 2-2. And that is the WORST decade in our history.

    BYU during its best decade in history is 4-6: Sweet 16, Round of 32, Play-in-win, 3 Round of 64 (aka 3 one-and-done).

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    March 16, 2014 7:42 p.m.

    Go WCC Gaels!

  • tyler11385 Springville, UT
    March 16, 2014 7:41 p.m.

    I'm having trouble hearing you..What's that..? PAC 12 what? Utes what? I can't hear you with all the celebration noise :)

    Good luck to the Utes. I hope they do well in the NIT. Seriously though.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    March 16, 2014 7:39 p.m.

    This will certainly be an opportunity for my man Bartley... Well he step up? or won't he? Think Utah State... Give us that game performance again.

  • tyler11385 Springville, UT
    March 16, 2014 7:36 p.m.

    It must be great to have conference pride to fall back on...

  • Y-Ask-Y? Provo, UT
    March 16, 2014 7:18 p.m.

    Let's play ball! Haws had better channel Jimmer and step up big time, or this will be embarassing.

    Go Cougars!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 16, 2014 7:05 p.m.

    Oregon vs BYU
    Utah vs @SMC

    WCC is 1-5 vs PAC-12 teams. Lets see if that trend continues into the post-season.

    @Cougs4Life: "I'm sure that we will hear all about 1-and-done predictions from our friends on the hill. But wouldn't you rather be in than out? Unless of course your just accustomed to being out..."

    Not just your friends on the Hill but across the nation as well, Vegas is picking Oregon.

    We are accustomed to winning when we're in. Even during our worst time in history, over the last 10 years, we are 2-3 with a Sweet 16. For a comparison, BYU in it's best decade, has only 3 wins (4-6 includes a play-in game win) with a Sweet 16.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    March 16, 2014 7:00 p.m.

    Great Ute

    Salt Lake City, UT

    Wow, a 10 seed. That's quite...undeserved. Better than Nebraska, Dayton, Providence, Tenn, Iowa, Xavier and NC State...There's no way.


    I'm guessing Way...

    Good luck to the Wildcats. A team that gets to play the team that just beat Utah. Might be the best way to see who plays the best basketball from SLC to Ogden. I'm watching the point spread on that one.

    And good luck Utes in the NIT. A road game. Tough draw...

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 16, 2014 6:53 p.m.

    BYU got a good and justified seed. Joe Lunardi had them as the last 4 in and that didn't seem right. Gonzaga got hosed. A BPI of 25 and RPI of 21 and that equates to a 8 seed?

    fY I Utah plats st. Mary's in the NIT and I'm good with that. Good luck to BYU and Go Utes!

  • Adirondack Cougar Loon Lake, NY
    March 16, 2014 6:53 p.m.

    Congrats Cougars. Let's go Sharp, Halford, and especially Bartley.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    March 16, 2014 6:50 p.m.


    BYU is not the blame for Utah joining the PAC.

    Bowling, and dancing is great.

  • CougOrUte..Naah Nibley, UT
    March 16, 2014 6:48 p.m.

    Not a big Cougar fan, but I have to congratulate them for getting the invitation. Wow a 10 seed is great. I think it surprised everyone. I hope you do well and win your first game, that is the only way you are going to quiet the Ute fan who post on BYU articles. Yes is better to be 1 and Done than Done Before One. Best of luck in winning the first one. Good luck to Coach Rahe as well, a tough, tough match up. Hope you hit 42 at least.

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    March 16, 2014 6:41 p.m.

    This is a very pleasant surprise. I'd thought we'd get a first four game at best. Playing Oregon is also not a bad draw. Taking them to OT on their floor should give the team some confidence but I think we're a different team without Collingsworth. Hope others can step up and fill the gaps. With his versatility, it will take everyone taking a piece of what he contributed. The most important piece will getting Carlino to get his head on straight. Now would be a good time for a visit with a sports psych. BTW--Whomever suggested that Collinsworth be sitting on the bench to cheer the team on has no idea what ACL surgery is like. I mean, really? He's having surgery on Tues and they play in Milwaukee on Thurs. Yeah, that's not going to happen.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    March 16, 2014 6:37 p.m.

    BYU travels well so they should have a good fan base for their first game. That may help them get over th hump. If BYU had played Oregon on a neutral court earlier in the year they probably would have won so I give the Cougars a good chance to win this one. 7-10 games often are historically the toughest to call the winner on.
    Go Cougs

  • agb Layton, UT
    March 16, 2014 6:36 p.m.

    This certainly is not congruent with what the experts on the hill have been saying. The selection committee must have made a mistake.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    March 16, 2014 6:34 p.m.


    Not in tournament. NIT

  • Just Wondering... Gilbert, AZ
    March 16, 2014 6:15 p.m.

    ...this must be the kind of respect a program earns by making the tourney 6 out of the last 7 years!

  • moderateinmagna MAGNA, UT
    March 16, 2014 6:15 p.m.

    Phoenix, AZ

    Has anyone heard if Utah got an the NIT? I for 1 don,t care about the Utes they have the most classless fans anywhere,as experienced by their posts on this thread,Max Hall was completely right about the ute fans,and it gets proven every time they open their mouth

  • Archibald SLC, UT
    March 16, 2014 6:14 p.m.

    Proud of my Cougars going dancing! 10 seed is higher than expected, very cool. I'd love to see them battle with Oregon. But something doesn't add up here.... I don't see the best team in the state with the best players in the best conference anywhere in the brackets. What gives?

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    March 16, 2014 6:11 p.m.


    BYU, are state champs with Weber coming in second.

  • Bastiatarian TUCSON, AZ
    March 16, 2014 6:03 p.m.

    >another one-and-done for dr

    And another done-before-one for Utah. Huzzah!

    On the other hand, Utah HAS been to the tournament once in the past decade...and lost in the first round. Oh, there was the mighty march to the second round of the CBI one year as well.

    During those same years, BYU did have three one-and-dones, but also two second rounds and a Sweet Sixteen. And a semi-final game in the NIT.

    To be fair, I do remember when Utah was good. But then, I'm pretty old.

    As a University of Arizona alum/employee, I should probably include the Wildcats' postseason history to provide further context, but that would just make Utah fans feel even worse and out of place in our conference, so I'll refrain.

  • ImaUteFan West Jordan, UT
    March 16, 2014 6:01 p.m.

    CougarSunDevil - The selection show for the NIT is at 6:30 on ESPNU if you're interested in seeing the Utes get their first post-season bid in several years.

    Congrats to the Cougars. Even my Cougar-lovin' husband was shocked that they got a 10 seed.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    March 16, 2014 5:59 p.m.

    Congratulations BYU! Those on the hill are pretty jealous if their comments are any indication. Nice to see Weber State be an automatic qualifier, too, so there are a couple good teams in the state, when considering the body of their work. Whichever game eventually takes BYU out of the tournament, I bet they score at least 40 points!! I feel badly for the last game the Aggies played as they seemed to copy the effort of Utah with the mighty 39 point showing. But at least we have a game at the big dance---us and WSU!! Go Wildcats. Go Cougars.

    March 16, 2014 5:58 p.m.

    Actually a 10 seed would denote that BYU was a bubble team. The tournament generally used the 10-12 seeds for the bubble teams. Then why as low of a seed for a mediocre BYU team? You have to take into consideration all the conference champions such Harvard, Weber STate, Coastal Carolina or Wofford...teams that even if they lost 1 or 2 games throughout the year couldn't be considered higher seeds with the schedules they play.

  • WA_Alum&Dad Marysville, WA
    March 16, 2014 5:44 p.m.

    Great seed! This was way beyond my expectations, and it feels like playing the Ducks is as good a situation as we could hope for. A neutral floor, with (hopefully) neutral refs is all we can ask for from the tourney.

    Let's hope "good Matt" shows up without KC on the floor.

  • Jeff ls Farr West, 84404
    March 16, 2014 5:40 p.m.

    It is interesting to note that once upon a time the NIT was the big tournament, not the NCAA Tournament. BYU has won that one twice. Jeff Condon and Dick Namelka were the big name players in that time frame. The NIT was also considered the National Championship. It will be interesting to see if Utah is invited to the NIT this year. I have respect for the teams but no respect for the Utah fans. It is amazing how so few can give so many such a bad name.

  • Cougar Blue 1 Henderson , NV
    March 16, 2014 5:37 p.m.

    This is why you play a tough schedule. Good job Cougs. Best of luck in the NIT utes, or maybe the CIT.

  • JoeCoug OREM, UT
    March 16, 2014 5:31 p.m.

    Sweeeeeet! Win or lose, great opportunity for a hard-working team and recruiting. I think the seed is better than expected/deserved, but I'm tickled. Will be a tough row to hoe without KC, but anything can happen on a neutral floor. Best of luck, Cougars!

  • Copacetic Logan, UT
    March 16, 2014 5:28 p.m.

    I'm happy and excited for this opportunity that BYU has earned. The percentage of times they've earned the opportunity for post-season play under coach Rose is quite remarkable and very consistent.

    If it wasn't for the obnoxious attitude of one particular Ute fan that always has us "marking it down", I would've wanted Utah (and all other local universities) to have gotten in as well. It's usually very satisfying whenever local schools represent our state well.

    As such, good luck to the Cougars. I hope your NCAA run lasts awhile. My family and friends will be pulling for both you and Weber State.

  • Bobby joe SAINT GEORGE, UT
    March 16, 2014 5:26 p.m.

    Congrats Cougars! Glad there's no play in game. Good job selection committee for not penalizing BYU because of the Collinsworth injury. Nice to get another shot against Oregon! Great chance for Bartley to shine! Good luck guys!

  • yankees27 Heber, Utah
    March 16, 2014 5:22 p.m.

    Usually I have a hard time with 7vs10 picks, this one is simple! byU is famous for going "one and done" so Oregon by 7, probably more, but 7 sounds fair.

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    March 16, 2014 5:09 p.m.

    Has anyone heard if Utah got an the NIT?

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    March 16, 2014 5:09 p.m.

    Oh yeah! Both my teams in the NCAA tourney,

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    March 16, 2014 5:03 p.m.

    Wow. More generous than I anticipated. We'll take it... I just hope Rose can figure out a way to make it competitive with the loss of their best player. Hint: it is going to take teamwork, less dribbling, and good ball movement. This team has shown they can play at a high level without missing a beat with Hawes out, filling the void Collingsworth leaves is a much more difficult task, I believe. Haws does 2 things (scoring and foul shooting) very well. Collingsworth does 4 things very well.

  • Cool Cat Cosmo Payson, UT
    March 16, 2014 5:01 p.m.

    Congrats Cougs! Good job on earning a spot, now get ready and make us proud!

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    March 16, 2014 5:00 p.m.

    A 10 seed?

    We should have at least been a 5 or 6 seed.

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    March 16, 2014 4:58 p.m.

    Nice Weber State and BYU get bids !

    Go do something with that opportunity !

  • ex patria cougar Australia, 00
    March 16, 2014 4:57 p.m.

    Wow -- way to go Cougs. Playing a tough OOC schedule appears to really have paid off. Despite losing Collinsworth, this matchup should give BYU some confidence going in. (1) They are familiar with their 1st round opponent, and (2) they almost beat Oregon earlier this year.

    Now they'll just need to go out and play ball.

  • Alekhin Herriman, UT
    March 16, 2014 4:57 p.m.

    Love it! What do Ute fans want to say now. It isn't a play in game and a 10 seed is not a last team in. Now all you can say is they will be one and done. You know you would rather have the Utes be one and done, than playing in the NIT!!

  • Juxtaposed West Jordan , UT
    March 16, 2014 4:56 p.m.

    It's nice to see BYU make the tourney this year. Yes, they had some bad losses and I don't expect them to beat Oregon but it's not too hard to envision them improving in the next few years with two or three more good recruits. The U seems to be only a couple players away as well from making it back to the tourney and it seems like Kryskoviak has them pointed in the right direction. As always, sports in this state are more entertaining when everyone is doing well and it looks like both programs are going to be worth watching down the road.

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    March 16, 2014 4:55 p.m.

    BYU is going dancing.
    Go Cougars!

  • Northwest Coug Pasco, WA
    March 16, 2014 4:55 p.m.

    Pretty sweet for the Cougs.

    I'm especially impressed the committee didn't force the Cougs, or any team for that matter, into a first round matchup against Dayton on their home floor.

    Good move to just put the Flyers into the field.

    Doug Gottlieb is pretty adamant the Cougs shouldn't be in the field.

    Time to represent!

  • Great Ute Salt Lake City, UT
    March 16, 2014 4:53 p.m.

    Wow, a 10 seed. That's quite...undeserved. Better than Nebraska, Dayton, Providence, Tenn, Iowa, Xavier and NC State...There's no way. Something doesn't add up. Have fun getting wrecked by the surging Ducks.

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    March 16, 2014 4:52 p.m.

    With or without Kyle, BYU earned it.
    Congrats Cougs!

  • BlackDiamond Provo, UT
    March 16, 2014 4:51 p.m.

    Let's Go Dance!!!!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    March 16, 2014 4:52 p.m.

    Congratulations Cougars! Better seed than expected and against an opponent they're familiar with. Let's win at least one!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    March 16, 2014 4:51 p.m.

    Looks like yet another one-and-done for dr on College Basketball's biggest stage....Oregon won't be taken into OT again by byu....They're rolling right now, winning 8 of 9 before losing to eventual PAC-12 Tournament Champion UCLA, and this wasn't against a triple-digit conference SOS....This is not the match-up byu would've hoped for!

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    March 16, 2014 4:51 p.m.

    Well, well. Wonder what all the naysayers will chime in with. Only way to silence them is to win the game.

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    March 16, 2014 4:49 p.m.

    WE'RE IN! And Oregon is a good opponent to face in the first round.

    Go Cougars!

  • Ken Sandy, UT
    March 16, 2014 4:48 p.m.

    6 PAC 12 teams with highest a #1 seed.
    2 wcc teams with highest a # 8 seed

    These two conferences are night and day different, not just slightly apart.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    March 16, 2014 4:43 p.m.

    Were in ....sorry Utes, your out! Should be a great game even without collinsorth.......time for others to step up

  • Lifelong Ute Salt Lake City, UT
    March 16, 2014 4:42 p.m.

    I was always going to cheer against byu. And I was always going to support our conference brothers. Now it will be double sweet for byu to go one and done against our conference. Isn't it funny that byu hasn't gone past the sweet 16 in several decades?

    And byu has zero final fours EVER

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    March 16, 2014 4:42 p.m.

    Sure is nice to be included with all the big boys. lol.

    March 16, 2014 4:41 p.m.

    Congrats to the cougars. I guess this means Chris B will be quiet for a week...

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    March 16, 2014 4:41 p.m.

    Congratulations BYU on a well-deserved invitation to the Big Dance!

    It will be an interesting rematch with Oregon in Milwaukee to see how BYU adjusts to the loss of Collinsworth.

    What's with Power Conference teams being with matched in "play-in" games. Haven't we been told that those games are reserved for mid-majors?

    Let the games begin.

    Go Cougars!

  • Jumbojimbo Cheyenne, WY
    March 16, 2014 4:38 p.m.

    Yay, no play in game. Apparently the selection committee though more of BYU than most have said. Sorry Utah, better luck next year.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 16, 2014 4:37 p.m.

    Go PAC 12 ducks!

  • Crow Sandy , UT
    March 16, 2014 4:35 p.m.

    Guaranteed win in your office bracket Oregon from the PAC12 moves on to the 2nd round with an easy win over the 2nd place wcc team. Looks like another one and done for byu.

    March 16, 2014 4:33 p.m.

    A number 10 seed? With Collinsworth out I am surprised, but good luck to the Cougars! This kinda means to me that BYU wasn't really on the bubble, with a very difficult out-of-conference schedule it seems the mostly close losses to good teams did count.

    While the Cougars did play at Oregon earlier in the season and only lost in overtime, both teams will be different now. Still, even with the changes it should be a fun game to watch!

    Go Cougars!

  • teamnash Mesa, Az
    March 16, 2014 4:31 p.m.

    We're goin dancin folks

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    March 16, 2014 4:29 p.m.

    Win or lose, being at the dance is better than watching it on TV. Good luck Cougars. Here's to Kyle's knee being good enough to dance next March.

  • mindgames Aurora, CO
    March 16, 2014 4:28 p.m.

    Awesome!! We don't have to do the play in game and we get to play an up tempo team.
    Should be fun.
    Hope Kyle can join the team. He has been an inspirational player all season, so I think he would be inspirational from the bench,

  • Cougs4Life Gilbert, AZ
    March 16, 2014 4:23 p.m.

    Wow...10 seed and no play in game? Not so much on the bubble, I guess, as one of the top 40 teams in the tourney. Unfortunately, Oregon was tough when the Cougs were at full strengths. I'm sure that we will hear all about 1-and-done predictions from our friends on the hill. But wouldn't you rather be in than out? Unless of course your just accustomed to being out...

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    March 16, 2014 4:23 p.m.

    BYU a ten seed in the BIG Dance, Woooooowhoooo! That must mean that the u must be a number a 4 the NIT! ( Other wise known as the little dance).