Gov. Herbert: I'm an 'action figure' on Medicaid expansion issue

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  • weemly Orem, UT
    March 13, 2014 2:43 p.m.

    If the Governor was truly an action figure he would had already approved the medicaid expansion program. We paid for consultants to study the problem and their report which the Governor failed to accept urged the Governor to expand medicaid. Instead money was wasted and the help people need was delayed. This is not the definition of action.

    Under the Governor's plan 50,00 people might be helped. Under full medicaid expansion hundreds of thousands of people would be helped. Where is the compassion in delaying the help that people most sorely need? What logic dictates that we should only help a small proportion of those who could receive help? The full medicaid expansion costs so little, and helps so many.

    If you are truly an action figure Governor stop playing political games and fulfill your oath of office to protect the citizens of this State. No one is stopping you from doing so. This isn't about your chances to be reelected this is about doing what is right.

  • Trudere Provo, UT
    March 12, 2014 9:05 p.m.

    A top executive too impatient for the legislature -- where have we heard THAT before? On the other hand, Madam Speaker, hundreds of millions for educational technology is a wonderful dream but a nightmare for taxpayers. Get your own mint first.

  • dalefarr South Jordan, Utah
    March 12, 2014 3:31 p.m.

    If the Governor and the Speaker of the house don't like expanding medicaid to the poor, how about we provide the poor the same gold plated lifetime health insurance the Utah taxpayers are providing to them?

  • dalefarr South Jordan, Utah
    March 12, 2014 3:12 p.m.

    The Governor is anything but an action figure. He and his staff studied medicare expansion for months. The studies confirmed that expanding medicaid by taking the federal dollars was best for the poor and the best for Utah's economy. Instead of doing the obvious, he constructed a half way plan that would serve about half the poor and pour dollars into private profit making insurance companies instead of into medical care. Meanwhile, the poor die and we lose out on Federal funds. Life elevated.

  • brotherJonathan SLC, UT
    March 12, 2014 12:47 p.m.

    Dear Governor Gary R. Herbert, Utah House and Senate membership: if you received funding of any kind and then have responsibility ,under your office, for oversight or laws that might favor them, you must recuse yourself from that vote or committee. and say why to the public. What was permitted in the past was unlawful. and a clear violation of voter equality:
    bribery is a crime. If you our Utah Governor took money from medical/hospital institutions and then support laws or contracts that help them make money that is clearly bribery. So open your oath bound mouth Governor Herbert and commit on this truth of law. Give them back their money and serve the people of Utah instead of the highest bidders. Ask UAG Sean Reyes if this logic is correct if your personal ethics does not confirm it for you without some help?
    We the people must tell our elected officials to be ethical in all of their duties under oath of office or they won't do it.
    Do not be sheep and expect to have your rights protected. Open your mouths if you agree with my assessment of our bribery driven government. And ii will change.

  • Gary Federal Way, WA
    March 12, 2014 12:43 p.m.

    Many are mistaken on the costs. The Federal Government pays 100% the first three years then pays 90% and never goes further down than that. The state wants to do things differently and force its citizens to wait for "a better plan". What better plan? It's already successfully in motion in many states. Thousands of people now are getting affordable insurance that they couldn't afford before. Previously the state was paying for medicaid costs and now the federal government will pay for it.

    Why would any state not want the federal government to step in and pay 90%-100% of the premiums for the medicaid patients??? It's just mindboggling a sane person would say NO to this. The state saves a lot of money. My guess is people just decided they don't like Obamacare because of who and where it came from. What a shame.

    Remember the facts are 90%-100% paid by the federal government to help those who qualify. In doing so, these people don't have to go to ER any more. This frees up state money that used to pay for ER costs for people without insurance, or who were poor. Who would say no to this offer?

  • jparry Provo, UT
    March 12, 2014 12:20 p.m.

    There's a world of meaning in Lockhart's statement that she "personally" is not interested in accepting Medicaid funds. She has the luxury to have such a personal view, but we're not asking for this from her; we're asking her to represent the interests of the state, especially it's most vulnerable citizens.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    March 12, 2014 12:00 p.m.

    I don't like the plan. What is the point of buying insurance policies for people that cannot afford to pay the high deductables if they needed to see the doctor.

    The more efficient approach would be to contract with doctors around the state and pay them a set fee for a set amount of office visits from the poor. That or else hire several doctors around the state to go around doing routine care for the poor. That would eliminate all sorts of layers of overhead and make it cheaper.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    March 12, 2014 11:09 a.m.

    Lockharts plan is insane, Herbert wants to give some of the Medicaid money to people who don't need it, Insurance companies that just happen to contribute to his campaign. To those that say nothing is free, you are correct. What medicaid does not cover is picked up by taxpayers at the emergency room. Turning down money we have already paid to the feds is just plain stupid.

  • Ralph West Jordan Taylorsville, UT
    March 12, 2014 10:53 a.m.

    Re: Ricard0 Carvalho

    Spot on! Hence the reason for MY depression and anxiety! What do we do in the meantime? As "humbug" puts it "There are sick people who need help right now."

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    March 12, 2014 10:32 a.m.

    So Utah cons reject funding for the poor to be able to receive healthcare.
    Now really, who is responsible for Sarah's "death panels"?

  • Ricardo Carvalho Provo, UT
    March 12, 2014 10:13 a.m.

    Ralph West Jordan

    I think DN Subscriber is talking about the longer term here.

  • Ralph West Jordan Taylorsville, UT
    March 12, 2014 9:13 a.m.

    Re: DN Subscriber

    I express my heart felt sympathy that you have been plunged into depression because " so many people seem to have fallen for the "Medicare expansion is FREE!" bait." I wish you well in your struggle to recover. Speaking of struggles, I hesitate to add to your anxiety, but am compelled to ask, while we wait to " (a) improve the economy and provide more jobs so that they are above the Medicare eligibility level; and (b) increase the availability of health care by training more doctors, nurses and assistants", what do the 100,000 Utahns that are suffering and declining in health do in the meantime?

    You are definitely correct in your statement "There are no free lunches or free healthcare. If the beneficiary does not pay, someone else will." But as the Previous poster "FatherOfFour" wisely stated " Would you like to have that, or would you like to give up on owning something you have already paid for? Personally, I would at least like for Utahns to benefit where possible since I paid for it."

    March 12, 2014 8:41 a.m.

    This should not be a difficult issue. It is really simple and straightforward. We are already paying for something we don't have. Paying for it is not an option, that has already been decided. Whether you agree with Obamacare or not is irrelevant. You have already paid for something. Would you like to have that, or would you like to give up on owning something you have already paid for? Personally, I would at least like for Utahns to benefit where possible since I paid for it.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 12, 2014 8:34 a.m.

    It is truly astounding (and depressing) that so many people seem to have fallen for the "Medicare expansion is FREE!" bait. They either do not realize, or fail to understand that the program was set up with steadily decreasing federal funding each year, so that what is "FREE!" today will end up being paid for out of Utah taxes in the future.

    The best way to provide health care to those truly in need is to (a) improve the economy and provide more jobs so that they are above the Medicare eligibility level; and (b) increase the availability of health care by training more doctors, nurses and assistants and making it more attractive to build and operate medical treatment facilities. To do the latter, reigning in the abuses by tort reform, and relaxing regulations will make major improvements.

    There are no free lunches or free healthcare. If the beneficiary does not pay, someone else will. That means inefficiently by taxes and bureaucracy, or cheaply by compassion and charitable contributions.

  • humbug Syracuse/Davis, UT
    March 12, 2014 8:07 a.m.

    I'm grateful the Guv is sending persons back to Washington D.C. to start the process of hammering out a compromise and a plan. I'm glad he isn't just sitting around waiting for something. We need to get moving quickly on this. There are sick people who need help right now.

  • Eliyahu Pleasant Grove, UT
    March 12, 2014 7:18 a.m.

    While I'm as eager as anyone to get the extreme right out of control here, Governor Herbert needs to choose his words more carefully. An Action Figure is a toy with articulated joints that is moved and manipulated by its owners, then put back in the closet when they're done.

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    March 12, 2014 7:10 a.m.

    Who does you governor consider the "most needy"?

  • Ralph West Jordan Taylorsville, UT
    March 12, 2014 7:08 a.m.

    The only thing in action with Herbert are his jaws! He is no different than Lockhart! The Tea Party has him shaking in his boots. His "Grant" program is nothing more than smoke and mirrors! Unless he signs onto the the basic Medicaid expansion now, a year from now we will still be waiting to see if the Feds will give Medicaid money in the form of a "Grant".

    When you are in pain a year is an eternity! When you need Chemo and can't afford it, a year could be a death sentence! If you are a diabetic, a year could cost you a limb, your eyes or kidney, but then again what are these possibilities when compared to ones political future?

    Talk on Governor, talk on or man up and do what is decent and right! Sign On now we are watching!

  • Wasatch Front Salt Lake , UT
    March 12, 2014 7:00 a.m.

    The best action plan is to sign on for extended Medicare instead of trying to reinvent the wheel. Meanwhile, everyone else loses: no coverage for thousands of Utahns for who knows how long, less people covered and at greater expense for those who can least afford it. All for ideology, so our Republicans can claim they did not sign up for Obamacare and private insurers can benefit.

  • snowyphile Jemez Springs, NM
    March 12, 2014 6:50 a.m.

    Good work Gov. Blaam! Ka-Poosh!

  • scrappy do DRAPER, UT
    March 12, 2014 6:24 a.m.

    an 'action figure' like Batman??

  • cmsense Kaysville, UT
    March 11, 2014 11:09 p.m.

    Gov. Herbert, I like your man of action plan! Don't worry there are more of us moderate Republicans out here and with the demise of the far right caucus system our votes and power will be felt! Huntsman was very popular and would of taken a similar approach or just expanded medicaid. Now you are comming into your own and I'm liking it and I'm gaining more respect!

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    March 11, 2014 10:07 p.m.

    More like an inaction figure.

  • Cato the Elder Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 11, 2014 9:15 p.m.

    The best person to be Governor is the Governor. Governor Herbert is on a roll and I like it.

  • Utefan60 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 11, 2014 8:21 p.m.

    Becky's plan was costing us 35 million and not insuring very many people. The Medicaid expansion was costing us how much? Nothing!! (We already paid these taxes) It would cover over 100,000 uninsured Utah Citizens! Becky will still get her subsidized health care through PEHP. So why should she care? She is proving a Tea Party point. That is much more important than working for the citizens of Utah. People are catching on to this, and they are not happy. Governor Herbert, you will be seen as a leader by accepting the Medicaid a leader and don't fear the Tea Party and their vocal minority. They are falling in the polls every single day and fast!

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    March 11, 2014 7:32 p.m.

    The speaker of the House's plan is costing us how much? Is the tea party is on control of the legislature and trying to trow a tea party tantrum.