Has Obama's foreign policy emboldened Putin?

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  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    March 6, 2014 11:02 a.m.

    happy2behere, glad to have the discussion.

    I heartily disagree that Putin has won the round.

    First of all he has done substantial damage to his own economy. Not permanently yet, but it has been substantial, because the Russian economy is based on oil and therefore needs Europe as much as Europe needs them.

    So if he feels emboldened it will be because Europe doesn't man up and literally has nothing to do with the US much less Obama.

    Europe stiffens up and supports sanctions Putin hasn't won anything.

    Sorry but the whole apology tour thing is just a massive slipping back into partisan talking points..and you were doing so well. You won't find any support for that view anywhere except Fox news and the right wing think tanks Heritage and Manhattan.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    March 6, 2014 10:40 a.m.


    "....Obama is seen as weak, and that is just a fact on the world stage that he will never be able to change...."

    My take is that that’s just a calculated mislabeling that Republicans have never been able to sell. Nor have they been able to stop trying. It’s not that they just don’t get it. It’s that they haven’t much else in the way of a strategy on which to pin their political hopes.

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    March 6, 2014 7:16 a.m.


    Have to disagree with you that Russia does NOT want to control all of Ukraine. As I said, with limited words available on this site, Russia wants to control Ukraine and have the benefits of its assets. The eastern half of Ukraine also has a large Russian population, and Putin is using them as an excuse to possibly invade. Protect Russian citizens. Hitler did something similar. Hillary Clinton stupidly pointed out the same. Stupid because she might one day actually again be in government. Which I might add would be awful for America. Obama is seen as weak, and that is just a fact on the world stage that he will never be able to change. His first impression to the world was his hat in hand, bowing down to the rest of the world and apologizing for the U.S. How can anyone think that was respected? Only a person who operates on college philosophy. This is a world governed by the aggressive use of force, and or the threat thereof. Putin has won this round, and will be able to do anything he wants in that area. And he knows it.

  • Jimmytheliberal Salt Lake City, UT
    March 5, 2014 5:25 p.m.

    @Open minded Mormon...Excellent posts! Wish there were more of you.

    March 5, 2014 4:40 p.m.

    US hegemony has provided for almost universal world peace. There are many regional powers that have been kept in check because they are no match for the US military. When the lone super power diminishes itself, the small regional powers will grow to fill the void, leaving the world less safe as the regional powers assert their authority. The US military has done more than any other country to promote peace throughout the world than any country in the history of the world.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    March 5, 2014 4:38 p.m.

    happy2bhere, not bad. Certainly better than others and notice when you put the whole thing in context it doesn't turn into a simple Obama bashing rant.

    You did miss two important/critical points and that is first of all the internal conflict between the Crimea, and the rest of Ukraine, spurred by the Ukraine overthrowing it's government. Secondly, and this is linked to the first, Crimea is Russian. They view themselves as Russians and they speak Russian. That speaks to your point that Russia controlled the area previously. It also mitigates your point of Russia wanting the rest of the Ukraine, probably not.

    I think the point here is this is very complicated and delicate. It certainly doesn't warrant a puffed up President shouting and issuing sanctions and threats.

    All that said, your joining in with information and details provides a intelligent discussion.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    March 5, 2014 1:58 p.m.

    Why didn't the right wingers heap criticism and blame on Bush/Cheney when Russia invaded Georgia in 2008?

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    March 5, 2014 12:00 p.m.

    I get the impression from following this somewhat artificial crisis that Russia’s interests have no legitimacy worthy of an airing. The American and international press seem less interested in providing balanced news reporting than in exploiting a geopolitical standoff to provide theater for the world.

  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    March 5, 2014 10:50 a.m.

    Mr. Putin, a former KGB colonel, knows that Mr. Obama is a former community organizer, a classic talk the talk versus walk the walk scenario. He also agrees with Hillary Clinton that Mr. Obama is not the one who is competent to answer the red phone in the middle of the night. The Ukraine situation is complex and is not in our immediate vital interest. However, we cannot ignore it as we did with the Ugandan genocide, Syria, Darfur and other central Africa atrocities, The Syrians crossed Obama's line and nothing happened other than Putin took control, another talk vs. walk. The Ukraine looks very little different.

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    March 5, 2014 10:08 a.m.

    Pragmitist and Blue Devil

    Ok you want details. Here goes. Crimea has about 8 or so piplines that supply a lot of European oil and gas. Which is why Europe is going to let Putin have that area. It is also why Putin wants physical control over that region. Before, it was assumed he controlled Crimea, but now he has taken it because Ukraine has been making noises about joining the EU. Also, the greater Ukraine is a rich area of the old Soviet Union and getting it back in control of Russia would be like America getting back Texas for instance, if it had tried to go independent. So Putin may well try to advance more in the greater Ukraine area too. How fast he works depends upon what blowback he gets on this first incursion. Informed enough on the issue for you?

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    March 5, 2014 8:44 a.m.

    Can any of you please explain what you think Putin has won that he didn't already have?

    I can clearly detail what he lost in the last 30 days... so please... if we were so out foxed.... what is it you think Putin has won.

    And if you can figure that one out, try next what you would have done different. We have heard the clamoring about the missile defense shield - a defensive asset aimed at taking out air threats - how would that have made even a little difference had that been in place?

    I await your wisdom.... should be enlightening.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    March 5, 2014 8:09 a.m.

    You know not one Obama detractor has demonstrated any understanding of what is happening in the Ukraine or Crimea.

    It's impossible to have an intelligent discussion about what should be done because not one of the detractors has shown any understanding of what has been done.

    The closest anyone of them got was an ill informed reference to the 1994 arms agreement.

    Numerous posts have laid out the history of the region, the current political and regional differences, and one poster even described the box Putin and Russia have been put in since the mid 90's.

    Old hawk Lindsay Graham said he would like to build a noose of democracy around Putin and Russia. Hello Lindsay where have you been that's precisely what has happened for the past 20 years and now they've reacted.

    That doesn't mean it's right what Putin has done it just means the right's reaction is ignorant, and the reactions here do nothing to dispel that fact.

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    March 5, 2014 8:08 a.m.

    As a Vietnam combat veteran, I say we need to be careful about going to war - it usually turns out worse than expected. But, a weak military means weak diplomatic leverage; and weak nation will means a weak military, no matter how well-equipped and well trained. There also needs to be savvy in the State department, National Security Council and Defense Department. Top leadership in these areas should not be a reward for political support as a prerequisite.

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    March 5, 2014 7:39 a.m.


    Well, this might surprise you, but if anyone watches FOX News, they know exactly where Ukraine is located. They put up maps all the time to show viewers. In other words, you would be out a lot of money if we all took you up on that bet. And in spite of all your insulting points, I find it deliciously ironic that it was both Romney and Palin who warned that Russia was not an ally, but an advisary. Obama of course, who still thinks as if he were a sophomore in college got it wrong. We have a President who is way out of his league as an a real world thinker and always will be. Next up, watch for China to make some moves. To the Americans who voted for Obama. The "I told you so" count is growing and growing.

  • Jack Aurora, CO
    March 4, 2014 8:33 p.m.

    Part 2 Waiting until the US is attacked is inviting destruction of the scale of Hurricane Katrina, and I don't want to be in a position of defending or possibly losing home ground. It makes no military sense to do that. Waiting for that in the 1930s resulted in our trading men and materiel for time to prepare to take the fight to the enemy. From 1941 to 1943, we fed our forces to a meat-grinder to give time to re-tool, manufacture, train and project power to the theaters of war. I would prefer not to condemn future generations to that type of situation. I would rather stop things from becoming too big to fix without a massive military incursion. That means acknowledging that the world is full of folks who don't play nice, and stern scolding doesn't work. Use all options at our disposal to deal with these situations and don't ignore them until they grow fangs and bite us.

  • Jack Aurora, CO
    March 4, 2014 8:19 p.m.

    From a 34 yr vet of the US Army, having lived through Jimmy and the debacle he made, I can accurately compare him and President Obama in their vision of the world. We are perceived as weak not because of our military strength, but a foreign policy based on naive notions that despots will behave themselves while the US looks away. We must be able to project power, not only through our military, but through diplomacy, economics, sanctions. When all else fails, then we send in troops, like we did in Iraq. 12 yrs of diplomacy, sanctions and the rest resulted in a defiant Saddam shooting at our planes enforcing the no-fly zone, defrauding the Oil for Food program and WMD(chemical weapons that are now in Syria). Putin isn't afraid of "being on the wrong side of history", he doesn't care. He wants what he has always wanted, the old USSR back. We must be able to engage prom a position of strength, not wishes.

  • Dr. Thom Long Beach, CA
    March 4, 2014 7:50 p.m.

    Seriously, who in the world is actually intimidated by Obama or Kerry? And now that these clowns want to cut the military, what would we use in any event, harsh language?

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    March 4, 2014 7:49 p.m.

    @Open Minded Mormon, or should I say Pagan or should I say airnaut:

    Its clear this is yet another situation Obama was wrong. Mitt Romney made it clear Russia was a risk.


    Obama said Russia wasn't a risk.

    Even Sara Palin said Russia would be a problem.

    Palin was right
    Romney was right


    Obama was wrong. Again.

    Sorry Pagan, its the truth

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    March 4, 2014 6:34 p.m.

    @Open Minded Mormon

    You lost credibility when you quoted a line from Saturday Night Live and NOT Sarah Palin.

    Whether the US needs to do anything right now or not, Obama is a joke, weak in the eyes of the world in foreign policy.

    If Ukraine asked us for help against an invading Russia what would you do?

    Would you allow the Soviet Union to reform?

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    March 4, 2014 6:29 p.m.

    Stunning lack of contextual understanding by the Obama opponents here.

    I would bet $100 very few, if any, of them could actually locate Ukraine on a map that didn't have the country names on it.

    Putin is sending a message to the new Ukrainian government that Russia is willing to use force to protect its interests, which in the Ukraine primarily involve transit of Russian natural gas to Europe, through the Ukraine.

    Putin is not an absolute dictator - he has very powerful constituents, namely the Russian Billionaries who have a LOT of investments in the West. As the diplomatic pressure and threats of economic sanctions start to hurt Russian oligarchs, Putin will probably back down.

    This was primarily a reaction to the political upheaval in the Ukraine, and only a tea-partier, a rube, or a political opportunist would suggest this was a result of Bengazi or Syria, or anything else related to Obama.

    Wait! Maybe this is because Putin saw how badly the Obamacare website rollout was handled, so he decided out of the blue to take over that peninsula.

    Uhhh... probably not.

  • KJB1 Eugene, OR
    March 4, 2014 6:19 p.m.


    The film you're describing back at 3:33 p.m. is called Death of a President. It has a positive rating of only 37% on RottenTomatoes.com and earned less than a million dollars worldwide. NPR and CNN both refused to run ads for it and then-Senator Hillary Clinton described the idea of such a film as "despicable" and "absolutely outrageous."

    Celebrated by liberals? Sure...

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    March 4, 2014 6:10 p.m.

    I've heard McCain and other GOP Senators and Representatives spouting off on Faux News. But I have not heard any of them offer any concrete ideas as to exactly what can be done. It's so much easier to just stand back and criticize and complain. It's quite another to have a plan that would actually work.

  • Sven Morgan, UT
    March 4, 2014 5:10 p.m.

    Interesting that the Obama supporters cannot, and will not address Obama's dismal foreign policy. Nope, all they can do instead is ask the irrelevant question: "What branch of the military did you serve in?" Since you're asking, what branch did Obama serve in?

    Even The Washington Post is calling Obama out for his lack of understanding of foreign policy, and how the world actually works in their Op-ed: "President Obama’s foreign policy is based on fantasy"

    We began losing the respect of the world's thugs when Obama began his administration with his embarrassing apology tour. Equally embarrassing was his groveling to Russian President Medvedev: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."

    Part of Obama's "flexibility" with Russia included gutting our military

    All Obama has garnered from his apology tour, weakness, indecisiveness, and continual lines in the sand, is the ridicule of the world...namely our enemies.

  • Noodlekaboodle Poplar Grove, UT
    March 4, 2014 5:09 p.m.

    *part 2* It's not like loosing that region cuts them off from their entire fleet and a good portion of their energy supplies. Wait, yes it does. Regan, Bush, Clinton or Obama, it wouldn't have mattered. I don't support what Russia is doing, but it's not as black and white as the people who want to start a was with Russia claim.

  • Noodlekaboodle Poplar Grove, UT
    March 4, 2014 5:08 p.m.

    Anyone who says Putin is emboldened by Obama is looking for an outcome that isn't there. Let's examine the real reasons that Putin sent troops into Crimea. First, Crimea was a Russian territory, prior to the area being assumed by Ukraine, the reason it's even part of Ukraine is Khrushchev gave it to them in 1954, prior to the breakup of the USSR, prior to the USSR breakup it was no big deal. After the breakup the Russian fleet was allowed to continue using Crimea as a base. It's the only year round military port the Russians have access to. The other issues is that Crimea is the convergence point for Russian natural gas pipelines. If you look at the facts, with political unrest in the Ukraine, and the possibility of a western alignment, why wouldn't Russia be nervous? *con'd*

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    March 4, 2014 4:57 p.m.

    Obama detractors excoriating the President for not doing enough have been careful not to spell out exactly what they would do if it was their call. This is no occasion for being coy. Do they themselves know or have anything to put on the table?

    Military action? They hastily disavow they are advocating that.

    Diplomatic pressure? They equate that with Barack Obama doing nothing.

    Economic sanctions? They don’t say. They’re pretty vague on everything.

    Until they have something concrete to suggest, I’ll stick with showing restraint while keeping options open. That’s not only being prudent. That’s showing strength.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 4, 2014 4:27 p.m.

    There's no question Putin is very emboldened.

    The only question is... what did President Obama and his weak response to other situations in the world have to do with it.

    Maybe that had nothing to do with Putin's confidence that he could invade and the US, NATO, UN, etc, would do nothing.

    Maybe it was all the successful Olympics, the nostalgia from the Opening Ceremony glamorizing the USSR's glory days... I don't know. But he's acting pretty bold.

  • Unreconstructed Reb Chantilly, VA
    March 4, 2014 4:06 p.m.

    "thank you for your service, but tell us, were you in the same branch of the military as Benedict Arnold?"
    -lost in DC

    I served in the same military branch as Benedict Arnold. So did Washington, Grant, and Eisenhower. Just what are you trying to say? That Army vets who disagree with your views should be tainted by a 200 year old association? Chickenhawks are so pro-military until a vet falls out of their political lockstep.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    March 4, 2014 3:48 p.m.

    just because the behavior started before BO was elected does not mean he can disregard it.

    Open Minded,
    thank you for your service, but tell us, were you in the same branch of the military as Benedict Arnold? or was it the same one BO served in?

  • Res Novae Ashburn, VA
    March 4, 2014 3:47 p.m.

    The "Peace Through Strength" mantra sounds great. Until you get the bill. We're still nowhere close to paying off Reagan's tab. Yet the same folks who rail against the national debt and government spending are the first ones to advocate blowing it on military hardware.

    US deterrence worked great to protect western Europe for 50 years. It didn't work so well for the Hungarians in '56, the Czechs in '68, the Afghans in '79, the Chechens on and off for 20 years, and the Georgians in '08. The US has *never* been in a position to leverage Russia out of taking action in its own periphery. Anyone advocating a new Cold War against Putin simply has no understanding of the military and political implications of their demands.

  • Sven Morgan, UT
    March 4, 2014 3:33 p.m.

    Ultra Bob said:

    "The article asks the wrong question. The proper question we should be asking is: Has the conservative war of 24/7 hate against President Obama saddened our foreign friends and emboldened our enemies.

    When such a large contingent of Americans rise up against our President and work openly to prevent him from doing anything, could it not have effect on foreign peoples?"

    Yeah, the same support liberals showed President Bush during his time in office. The movie depicting the assassination of President Bush (which was celebrated by liberals) wasn't hateful at all. Yep, the support liberals showed Bush was a model for us all to follow.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    March 4, 2014 3:17 p.m.

    In six months we will have gotten through this just fine. Putin will have overstepped drastically. He will have done grave harm to his economy, to Russia's position in the world and the Ukraine will be firmly aligned with Europe, and thousands of America boys will still be alive and pursuing their dreams.

    Hard to tell where Crimea will be, but it won't matter.

    True to form the conservatives and Republicans will still be running around shouting..but, but, weak, Ukraine, Benghazi, IRS, etc. etc. etc.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    March 4, 2014 3:09 p.m.

    If Netanyahu were President of the United States, Ukraine would be a safe place.

    Cause Netanyahu would never invade a neighbor and bulldoze their homes?

    I'm always amazed by conservative ideals?

    Shoot first then lets look at the situation. Gotta love the "We're the neighborhood bully" how dare Putin act like America.

  • Res Novae Ashburn, VA
    March 4, 2014 2:54 p.m.

    I think Obama's foreign policy has been one of his weakest areas.

    But look at the hand he was dealt. Bush's muscular foreign policy left the US overextended with absolutely no credibility internationally. Obama has naturally steered the other direction. No, I don't give him high marks for his efforts to rehabilitate US diplomacy. But Obama's inability to deal with Putin is without doubt the direct and inevitable result of 8 years of neocon policy preceding him.

    Even Bush realized that he had no leverage by the twilight of his administration when Putin beat the stuffing out of Georgia with barely a peep from the US.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    March 4, 2014 2:44 p.m.

    Crimea is not Ukraine. Crimea has been in Russian hands since the 18th Century. It is their most important naval base and it is their only all-weather port. Putin's move against Crimea is an act of desperation - Russia is in real trouble if it loses this asset. So I doubt Putin's actions are in the main a response to Obama's policies.

    Please note I do not favor Russia here because it is "socialist." It isn't, and it practices a very degenerate brand of capitalism. I simply think it's not in our interests to back Russia into a corner on this matter.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    March 4, 2014 2:35 p.m.

    We as a nation will never, ever, ever learn about meddling in foreign squabbles. Same conflict, new location.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    March 4, 2014 2:24 p.m.

    I am dumbfounded by either the lack of memory here, or just how unaware so many seem to be of the regional history here. This "behavior" by Russia predates both Obama and Bush. This same crowd has made the same types of moves into not only Ukraine in the past, but most recently Georgia, Chechnya, the former Yugoslavia, Czech Republic, Poland, and most notably, Afghanistan. Russia even have threatened Finland.

    If any of you think Obama had influence here either way, you surely haven't been paying attention. This is nothing new here. Thinking Obama, or Bush, influenced this type of thinking, just isn't based on any factual record of history.

    We are rally stretching partisanship (and history) to make this a US driven event.

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    March 4, 2014 2:21 p.m.

    Father of Four: Although I admire your patriotism, I am one that believes you were part of the war machine that sent you there! There is a difference, however, in setting up standing armies throughout the world, which is what the warmongers want, including our invasion of Iraq, and letting the world know that we are a nation that will not sit idly by and watch bullies conquer countries. Obama doesn't believe in America as a Constitutional Republic built on freedom and God-given rights. As such, he is weak, something Putin will now take advantage of. If Netanyahu were President of the United States, Ukraine would be a safe place. Period!

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    March 4, 2014 2:02 p.m.

    Boots on the ground is the only answer. Armed conflict is always the best plan. Ground conflict in Eurasia is just a delight to contemplate. At least it is for those who don't actually have to go or send their loved ones off to fight.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    March 4, 2014 1:54 p.m.

    Super excited about starting World War III and issuing in the second coming, conservatives want war instead of diplomacy again who would have guessed.

    "We don’t need troops on the ground, just ship all that used equipment from Afgan and Iraq and drop it off in Ukraine."

    That's a super Idea to escalate things.

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    March 4, 2014 1:53 p.m.

    Is this a rhetorical question?

  • Richie Saint George, UT
    March 4, 2014 1:47 p.m.

    @open minded Mormon. You just asked the fatal question. My father was wounded in WW I, I lost an uncle in WW I, a cousin in WW II, an in-law in Vietnam and good friends in Korea. Oh, by the way I was shot at by the Chinese for 9 months in Korea Please be quiet because you are offending mine and every other veteran's sensibilities.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    March 4, 2014 1:31 p.m.

    Woops their goes that treaty we signed with Ukraine, they gave up and disarmed their nuclear weapons, and we were to defend them from invasion. According to our treaty with the Ukraine, Russia has attacked us. Every country in the world is looking at what they gave up to have a treaty with the US, and realizing they have been sold down the river. We don’t need troops on the ground, just ship all that used equipment from Afgan and Iraq and drop it off in Ukraine. How trusting were the Ukrainians, in one of the bases in Crimea, the trapped soldiers have no weapons, a few of the officers have some handguns.

    Military and college do not equate to intelligence and wisdom. Continual berating about it is not conducive to a honest discussion of ideas. It just becomes a partisan rant with nothing behind it.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    March 4, 2014 1:26 p.m.

    You'll receive no response from those folks, in fact last time someone brought up this inconvenient truth they were chastised as being "proud," instead of thanked for their service.

    I think the love that conservatives have for Putin has emboldened putin.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    March 4, 2014 1:25 p.m.

    re:Open Minded Mormon

    It's not about throwing grenades guy - it IS about understanding how to deal with a dangerous world and Barack clearly has neither the will nor the understanding.

    Here is a history lesson for you. In 1980 Reagan took over a weak and unsuspected US as Commander and Chief. Carter had made a mockery of the US. Reagan knew how to deal with the USSR then - PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH. UN style speeches that Obama gives just get laughed at by Russia, China, Iran and the other thug nations. Reagan built up the US military AND our nuclear force and the USSR couldn't keep pace plus they knew Reagan - unlike weak little Jimmy Carter - was a force to reckon with. The cold war ended BECAUSE of the principle of PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH. Was there a war with the USSR? Note didn't want or need one. Just needed a REAL military force which would deter aggression.

    Your weak little socialist president today - like Jimmy Carter - is laughed at by Russia and China. When the bear has nothing to fear the bear will terrorize the world and that my friend is what is happening.

    March 4, 2014 1:24 p.m.

    @Open Minded Mormon,

    I was in Iraq 2003-2004 with the US Army (89D). I completely agree with you. It seems like every time someone says "Boo" in some far off land, our right-leaning friends are ready to send in the troops and start blasting. With no plan, no strategy, no concern for repercussions. Just so we can look "tough". I work for a defense contractor now. You will also notice that they never propose anything concrete. Just the opposite of whatever President Obama suggests.

  • southmtnman Provo, UT
    March 4, 2014 1:20 p.m.

    Open Minded Mormon,

    Thank you for your service. Your calling out the "arm-chair quarterbacks" is legit.

    Amazing that so many commenters demonize both Obama and Putin. Those who do so engage in dangerous rhetoric that is at once simple-minded and ignorant.

    Neither Obama nor Putin created this crisis. At the risk of oversimplifying, there has been political unrest in Ukraine for some time, with ethnic Ukrainians desiring to join the EU, and ethnic Russians desiring to ally with Russia, both for economic and political reasons.

    Yanukovych won the highly contested 2010 election, further solidified the ideological split in Ukraine. Then the Parliament of Ukraine acted rashly and unconstitutionally ousting Yanukovych, who favors alliance with Russia rather than the EU. He also received threats on his life.

    Putin, the Russian Defense Ministry, and the Russian Parliament agreed to act in order to protect Yanukovych, ethnic Russians in Crimea and eastern Ukraine, as well as their Black Sea Fleet. Their actions have been consistent with Putin's statements that they hope to avoid violence.

    Demonizing anyone on either side accomplishes nothing productive. Both sides have legitimate concerns and claims, and this must be resolved by diplomacy, not war mongering.

  • Badgerbadger Murray, UT
    March 4, 2014 1:16 p.m.

    I know that it is so hard for Obama supporters to see him fail, yet again!

    But wake up to the facts, please!

    I don't really care if the world sees Obama as weak, or wonderful, or anything else. It doesn't matter. He has a limited time left as president and then he goes away. He is a blip on the radar of history.

    What I care about is how the world regards the United States of America. Obama has tarnished the way the world sees us, as a nation. He has diminished our respect. If we are not respected, we are vulnerable. I hope my country can survive, and I hope we are not going to be plunged into a reignited cold war with Russia. The last one was very expensive, and not just in dollars.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 4, 2014 1:07 p.m.

    What would we have done if in, say 1970, it looked like Russia had convinced Canada to join the Warsaw pact?

    That is the situation we have created by expanding NATO and the EU to the former Soviet Republics. Many foreign policy experts, Republican and Democrat, warned that boxing Russia in like this would be certain to provoke a response. Now that we have been recruiting their next door neighbor, it has finally happened.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    March 4, 2014 12:46 p.m.

    Cedar Hills, UT

    Chris B
    Salt Lake City, UT

    Victor, ID

    Uncle Rico
    Sandy, UT

    Saint George, UT

    West Jordan, UT


    I'll ask again --
    What branch of the Armed Forced you have served in?

    I grow tired of guys like you instantly calling for Military action each everytime there is a situation in the world and think bombs and troops are the only answer,
    using other people or other people's kids,
    other people's money,
    when they have NEVER done so themselves.

    If you can tell me precisely who attacked us,
    who is attacking our Constitution and I will gladly throw myself on a gernade.

    BTW --
    I do not waste my time and other people lives listening to the partisan rants for ratings by NON-military college drop-outs on the radio.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 4, 2014 12:07 p.m.

    The article asks the wrong question. The proper question we should be asking is: Has the conservative war of 24/7 hate against President Obama saddened our foreign friends and emboldened our enemies.

    When such a large contingent of Americans rise up against our President and work openly to prevent him from doing anything, could it not have effect on foreign peoples?

  • Shawnm750 West Jordan, UT
    March 4, 2014 11:46 a.m.

    @Open Minded Mormon - The UN is neither a shield nor a broadsword. Over half their funding and troops are supplied by the United States. The UN is the world's Better Business Bureau. Countries participate because it looks bad if they don't but the UN has little authority when it comes to actually influencing a country's behavior. Just ask the Tutsi Rwandans how helpful the UN was when nearly 800,000 of them were killed. Or the people of Kosovo? So who does that leave? The EU? They're an economic coalition with no military power. In fact, most European countries view their military as a defensive measure and only fund it as such.

    I'm not saying we should rush in and intervene. Obviously diplomacy should be the first action in any situation like this. But when it comes to defending other nations, one of the few countries that has the resources to do it besides the USA is currently the one that's mobilizing it's troops on the Ukrainian border. Other countries like to deride us for intervening, but when things go south, why do they always ask why WE didn't do anything?

  • Richie Saint George, UT
    March 4, 2014 11:41 a.m.

    @open minded Mormon. You and Nevill Chamberlin would have made great buddies. The only difference is that Hitler didn't have the range to attack us but Putin and all his cronies in North Korea, China and Iran can put a nuke in your back yard and Obama can't do anything to stop them.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    March 4, 2014 11:36 a.m.

    BO's foreign policy"

    WHAT foreign policy?

    a world apology tour to start your administration does nothing to enhance our standing in the eyes of the world's bullies.

    constant dithering does nothing to enhance our standing in the eyes of the world's bullies

    empty threats and red lines that amount to nothing do nothing to enhance our standing in the eyes of the world's bullies

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    March 4, 2014 11:34 a.m.

    Victor, ID
    @ Open minded Mormon. What if Al Qaida attacks us and they are not a nation but an ideology from several nations? Get it?

    11:14 a.m. March 4, 2014


    I "get it" Mountanman,
    unlike so many of you war mongers on these boards -- I'm a Military Veteran and can speak from experience.

    FYI --
    What IF Al Queda attacked us?,
    Pres Obama was able to take out the guy responsible for it using Intelligence, Navy Seals, a couple helicopters in PAKISTAN.

    and we know, Sarah Palin is a Foreign policy expert because she claims to be able to see Russia from her house.

    BTW -- I work for the Department of DEFENSE, not Offense.
    Why don't you Walk the Talk and put some of your own skin and money in the game.

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    March 4, 2014 11:33 a.m.

    President Obama's weak position on foreign affairs and lack of leadership has encouraged many governments to disregard the United States. Don't blame me folks, i didn't vote for him.

  • lket Bluffdale, UT
    March 4, 2014 11:22 a.m.

    military action is impossible if you know history ask the germans and the french. it is so far away and no one is willing to send their own armies why should we. they would wipe us out anyway supply is next to impossible that far away. sanctions only do so much they have the money to buy elsewhere.
    they are doing this to see what we will do and we should be diplomatic, first anyway.

  • Mountanman Victor, ID
    March 4, 2014 11:14 a.m.

    @ Open minded Mormon. What if Al Qaida attacks us and they are not a nation but an ideology from several nations? Get it?

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    March 4, 2014 10:45 a.m.

    Both Romney and Palin expressed serious concern over Russia. Barack has always been dismissive of this risk, which we have seen has come to fruition.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    March 4, 2014 10:41 a.m.

    This is not a matter of the UNITED STATES of America.
    If anything, it is a matter for the United Nations.

    I'm sick and tired of Conservatives thinking the President {currently Obama] and America is the King and Police State for the entire planet.

    If Russina attacks us, then it's our problem
    If Crimea attacks us,
    If Syria attacks us,
    If Iran attacks us,
    If anyone attacks us -- then it's our problem.


    Bush and his $3 Trillion

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    March 4, 2014 10:39 a.m.

    what foreign policy? Gut the military and make silly red lines in the sand? Putin is steam rolling Barack and so will China. Obama is a joke to them as was Jimmy Carter to the old USSR.

    March 4, 2014 10:28 a.m.

    I'm sure if Bush were still in charge we would have boots on the ground right now. In New Zealand.