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  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    March 10, 2014 6:55 a.m.

    It seems to me that the Editor is a bit disingenuous here.
    The purpose of our existing law, any law, is to provide order. The question, for the moment, is settled. Unlawful presence has specific remedies prescribed by the law. The penalty is removal.
    Surely the Editor knows that laws exist to prevent chaos. And the Editor knows that changing the law requires a process. While the debate rages, existing law must be followed.
    We have observed a parade of politicians, police chiefs and preachers calling for something besides the law. Shall we simply go along ignoring the law and making exceptions? A little selective enforcement or an executive order here and there?
    Of course not. Uphold the existing law while debating changes.
    Why is that so hard?

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    March 5, 2014 8:00 a.m.

    Border enforcement first. Stopping drugs and people from coming into the U.S. is the only starter for further immigration reform. Then let's admit, Republicans want the cheap labor for their business cronies, and the Democrats want the votes so they can turn the whole of America in to what California has become. Namely a country dominated by liberal Democrats. So, since neither side really wants to change the norm, the same thing will continue to happen with illegal immigration. NOTHING.

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    March 5, 2014 7:28 a.m.

    More anti-enforcement propaganda, couched in the euphemism, "immigration reform."

    One wonders why the need for euphemisms if the proposition truly is motivated by a conviction that rewarding illegality is right, morally and otherwise.

    Or are there other, hidden motivators involved, pursuant to the selfish agendas of corrupt, special interest groups?

    Again, why the need for euphemisms, if good faith truly is what this is about?

    March 4, 2014 2:42 p.m.

    When do we start discussing this honestly, it's not about the 11 million here illegally, it's about the 30 million that will come for the next amnesty.

    Amnesty is not a serious option. The people came here illegally for jobs, and committed multiple felonies. They should not be rewarded for their dishonest actions. If we provide a path to citizenship, the bulk will end up on our welfare rolls. Business hires them because they work cheap, as citizens, this is no longer an option. They will be laid off in time, as business looks to the next wave of illegal immigration, and cheap labor. All options except for enforcement, will end up in furthering the problem, and only make it worse.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    March 4, 2014 12:56 p.m.

    Want a higher minimum wage? Want lower hospital costs? Want lower unemployment numbers? Want lower class sizes in Utah? Want less dollars going to WIC, food stamps, welfare? Want less crime?

    Convince the Obama administration to enforce current immigration law. No need for a "new" law.

    Its' NOT complicated!

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    March 4, 2014 11:56 a.m.

    Yea, another useless and unenforceable law. The illegals will still find a way to get hired by comanies that follow the loopholes in the laws. If they want to get make employment harder or encourage the illegals to self-deport, they have to do what parts of Arizona have done. Require proof of citizenship or documentation showing legal status when renting homes. People are not going to work somewhere that they cannot live.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    March 4, 2014 11:26 a.m.

    Esquire, is the border fence finished, have we made E-verify mandatory, do we have interior enforcement, or once across the border are people here illegally allowed to stay? Did we hire more judges, do we have a visa entry exit system? The answer to the enforcement provisions of 1986 and 1996 is no, we have not followed through on enforcing the law.

    Open borders and lose our sovereignty? Greece has built a wall on it's borders, Israel has deportation without trial, Spain has put up razor wire on it's borders, the Swiss just voted to cap guest workers and force business to hire citizens first. Open borders is not working for Europe.

    Flooding our country with cheap illegal labor is not free market. It's flooding the supply, and fixing the labor supply, forcing the taxpayers to foot the bill, live with depressed wages and high unemployment. What makes you think that Americans are going to put up with this dishonesty any longer?

    A free market forces business to pay a fair wage to an employee. We don't need a minimum wage hike, we need to get rid of those here illegally depressing wages.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 4, 2014 9:53 a.m.

    @ RichardB, you are not correct that "All enforcement acts from previous reforms that have been ignored." It's just not true. The reality is that the market provides such incentives that the "problem" is overwhelming the system. Europe is facing the exact same problem. For North America, we should accept reality, negotiate reciprocal rights with other countries, allow essentially open borders but require registration, and let the free market decide where workers will go. That's what is happening now. The only thing missing is the rights or U.S. citizens to go to those other countries to freely work and an effective registration system to track non-U.S. citizens (which will never happen in our current system as the incentive for immigrants AND employers is to hide). Let that rock your protectionist thinking!

  • louie Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 4, 2014 9:46 a.m.

    Esquire says it first, but the Editorial Board is so hesitant to lay any blame with the Republicans in the House of Representatives. Senate has already passed a bill. The house will not even pursue a compromise. As a "Red" state we need to challenge our congressional delegation to act more responsibly in addressing immigration reform.

    March 4, 2014 9:02 a.m.

    A new award-winning worldwide book/ebook by ex-Salt Laker Lance Johnson that helps explain the role, struggles, and contributions of immigrants and minorities is "What Foreigners Need To Know About America From A To Z: How to Understand Crazy American Culture, People, Government, Business, Language and More.” It paints a revealing picture of America for anyone who will benefit from a better understanding. Endorsed by ambassadors, educators, and editors, it also informs those who want to learn more about the last remaining superpower and how we compare to other nations on many issues. They come to improve their lives and create a foundation of success for their children to build upon, as did the author’s grandparents when they landed at Ellis Island in 1899 after losing 2 children to disease on a cramped cattle car-like sailing from Europe to the Land of Opportunity. Many bring skills and a willingness to work hard to make their dreams a reality, something our founders did four hundred years ago. In describing America, chapter after chapter chronicles “foreigners” who became successful in the US and contributed to our society. However, most struggle in their efforts and need guidance in Anytown, USA.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 4, 2014 8:17 a.m.

    Everyone in Washington is ready to go except for the Republicans in the House. Why blame the federal government as a whole when the bottleneck is so easy to point to. I know this is a right wing GOP paper, but couldn't you at least say it as it is instead of obfuscating?

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    March 4, 2014 8:07 a.m.

    Instead of the failed policy of reform (amnesty and broken promises of enforcement), we need honest enforcement at the borders, e-verify, interior enforcement, more judges and a visa entry-exit system. All enforcement acts from previous reforms that have been ignored.

    The American public have wised up to the shell game of illegal immigration, and want to see it stopped. Rewarding lawbreakers is far down the list, the only thing being broke are our laws.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    March 4, 2014 5:54 a.m.

    "Partisan rhetoric has made it challenging to find practical solutions in the immigration debate"

    Yup. And Congress now operates as a "no compromise" body. So while we admittedly have an issue that needs prompt attention (and has for years), we will forgo any improvement unless we get everything we want.

    So our current system which everyone agrees is broken, continues on.

    Just like everything else.