I think this shows BYU does more with less.
Then again, the Raiders might just take Hoffman in the first round. Wait Al
Davis is no longer around, never mind.
One of the poll question options was "show some faith, first or second
round" and it still got some votes. Not much mind you (close to 2 percent).
But still, come on man.Hoffman could be a free agent signee but I
think there will be a team that sees his intangibles in the 6th or 7th round.
Todd Watkins 2.0
Drafted, not drafted--whatever. Draft status has less to do with success at the
next level than a player's heart, smarts, and desire to do what it takes.
The two receivers who caught touchdown passes for Seattle in the
Superbowl were both undrafted free agents.I believe Cody Hoffman has
the talent to play in the NFL. If it's something he's willing to work
for, he just needs to get on a training camp roster--regardless of which path
My broad jump was actually pretty decent, but I never had a great vertical leap.
However, put me in a game where I was moving and not thinking about it, and I
could jump pretty high.That's the problem with some of these
combine activities. Yes, they do have a good track record of picking NFL
quality guys, so I'm not saying they should be thrown out. However, there
are some who just don't perform well in such environments but still make
great players. Some one mentioned Jerry Rice. I'll even throw out Ty
Detmer (although he was never a good NFL QB). I've heard of Detmer that he
looked awful in practice. He certainly didn't look awful in most of the
games he played.If Hoffman can show he can run precise routes and
catch everything thrown his way, he'll get a job in the NFL. Yes, there
are a lot of guys with blazing speed who stretch defenses; but teams need
"possession" receivers too.
What a total bust. Good thing the Jazz aren’t making the mistake of
drafting him. He's probably headed over to Europe or maybe Turkey to play
ball now. He doesn't have the talent or athleticism to play in the NFL.
I've never seen a football player perform a standing broad jump in a game.
Same thing with jumping from a standing start to see how high you can jump.Hoffman is good, there is no doubt. He can run good routes and catch
the ball. Far better talents than the standing broad jumb and standing high
jump.We've always known that Hoffman was slow. So what?
RationalSalt Lake City, UT"If a Professor did such a poor
job preparing students for the workplace, they'd get fired."Nice analogy. I've got a better one for you.If one coach
wins ball games but doesn't get his players drafted, and the other coach
gets his players drafted but keeps losing ball games, which one is in danger of
This actually surprises me. As a Ute fan I have zero reason to wish any
ill will on Hoffman, quite the opposite in fact, I hope he finds success in the
NFL. I really thought we'd see him drafted somewhere around the third or
fourth round, but now it looks like he'll go undrafted and have to prove
himself as a free agent. Not like it hasn't been done though. Good luck to
Hoffman, Manualema nor Van Noy will be drafted on the first day.If a
Professor did such a poor job preparing students for the workplace, they'd
Collie had poor combine numbers too. With BYU receivers I don't think it
means much. Good hands and good routes will get you farther than Darius
Heyward-Bey type combine numbers.
I think Cody's weakness has been getting good separation. That is a
function of overall speed, physicality at the line of scrimmage, and precision
of routes. Cody runs nice routes but his ability to shed a bumping corner and
his speed are wanting. I think he is very strong at catching the ball, and
running after the catch. I also think he is a pretty good blocker.I
think his Combine numbers will seriously hurt him. But if they look at his
intangibles and total body of work, he deserves to be drafted. I predict free
agency, even though I definitely think he deserves to be drafted.
He's toast...won't be drafted...his only hope is as a walk-on with
someone giving him a chance. The NFL is numbers-crazy and, if you don't
have the numbers they expect, they are nervous about investing. Look at Johnny Football - he's under 6 ft tall, so he's not given
the consideration he would if he were 4 inches taller...despite a Heisman under
his belt. Hoffman, with crappy times in the numbers that the numbers, won't
get a sniff now.
If Hoffman gets a decent chance on the field, he will perform. Some players are
better competing on the field than they are at running drills. The great Jerry
Rice was one of the slowest wide outs on the 9ers,but when he lined up against
speedier DBs, you knew he would beat them. If Cody Hoffman is able to show what
he can do in game situations, his QB and coaches will learn quickly that he can
get open against anyone, and he can catch anything near him.
I can see some value in measuring "true height" by combining height with
vertical jump, but if NFL coaches were betting on who would grab a rebound in
basketball, or a sideline catch in football, would they pick a 6'5" guy
with a 25 inch vertical, or Spud Webb? The tall guy is more likely to grab the
rebound because he doesn't need to climb as high and his bigger body is
going to provide cover...
He'll be all pro in his second year.Guaranteed.
Marcus Colston was a 7th round draft pick by the Saints. He is now the all time
leading receiver to the saints. Does not have blazing speed tall and catches
everything. Correct me if I am wrong but that sounds alot like Cody. I am not
saying that he will be a hall of famer by any means but I think he has potential
to be a great receiver in the NFL.
I have no problem with the banter (and even obsession or hatred from some) that
goes back and forth between Utes and Cougs about the football team or basketball
team collectively. But I have no respect for someone who takes shots and wishes
ill will on individual players, and that includes the Coug faithful who are also
taking shots at Murphy's poor combine performance on the Ute page.It's embarrassing not to know how to spell embarrassing.
Cody will never play in the NFL at wide out unless he can run at least 4.5 in
Still prolly #1 in my mind.
I'm a BYU fan, but I have never thought Hoffman was that great. This
doesn't surprise me at all.
All these measurements are just fluff-filler for sports stories. Just a way to
promote the NFL.
The "true height" seems to use height and vertical leap but does not
account for reach. While the other tall receivers would look equally better than
Hoffman, it would likely make a big difference against the shorter ones.
Here is a bold prediction: At least one person on here will pontificate about
their knowledge of the draft and how Cody will remain undrafted. A relating of
the past history of players from other schools will follow. There also will be
comments about the "subpar" label placed on the BYU QBs. Mark it down.
It is hard to say where Cody will end up in the draft. I do not think he will go
really high, but I think he will get drafted. 5th round maybe.
A couple of 5-9 guys have a "true height" the same as Hoffman?