BYU basketball: Cougars looking to 'move on' at St. Mary's

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  • moderateinmagna MAGNA, UT
    Feb. 15, 2014 5:45 p.m.

    Central, UT

    Please give it a rest. Not every official in every sport has a vendetta or malice towards BYU. Officiating is not the problem.Well i have seen enough WCC games to know that the refs in this league do let waldow and the big men at Gonzaga push guys around ,knock them down almost rip off their arms and still dont call a foul \they travel, [no call] and it is not only with BYU i have seen them do it in numerous games the WCC refs do not follow the rules,only the rules they want to follow,worst refs in the country followed by the pac 12 refs.,followed by the mwc refs.

  • fireonthemtn Reno, NV
    Feb. 15, 2014 5:30 p.m.

    As "Dandy" Don Meredith use to say, "If 'if' and 'but' were candy and nuts, wouldn't we all have a Merry Christmas?". Stop whining about officiating and quit with the excuses. A lousy front court and no offensive strategy other than Tyler Haws will not get it done.

  • gonefishn Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 15, 2014 3:09 p.m.

    Win the tourney or bust, no chance for at large bid.
    On another note check out Ivan Maisel's article yesterday on conference expansion

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 15, 2014 12:44 p.m.

    Actually, PM64 does have a point. Waldow does play the game like Charles Barkley. I think a better comparison would be Shaquille O'neil, who essentially got a free pass (like Waldow does) to bang his way to the basket and easily score on a layup or dunk, even though the defender may have perfect position. There is no question that is exactly what the refs allowed for Waldow in the last game at BYU, while our bigs got in foul trouble.

    Stopping Waldow will be the key to winning this game. With the type of defense our bigs play, and the free pass Waldow got at the last meeting of these 2 schools, I am not holding my breath.

    I do think Carlino should start and play more minutes. Despite the first comment on this thread, Halford is NOT a consistent shooter. He has been throwing up bricks for the past several games. Carlino passes better, runs the transition better, has been shooting better as of late, and is capable of putting the game on his shoulders when others aren't carrying their share of the load.

  • General Alpine, UT
    Feb. 15, 2014 10:39 a.m.

    As a huge BYU fan I'm sorry that I have to concede that a victory at St. Mary's would be a huge surprise. Something has got into the heads of these kids from where they were at the start of the season. It seems that all of them think they have to win the games themselves instead of working as a team. In crunch time they go 1 on 5 instead of running plays. Too often Collinsworth never gives up the ball on fast breaks, going 1 on 5. Same thing last year. After the season was over they loosened up and played great in the NIT until they got to NY and then stiffened up again. Also last year no one could figure out that you need to box out to get a rebound consistently.

    I recall the Haws high school team losing in the state championship his senior year, three of the five starters on that team play for BYU.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Feb. 15, 2014 10:13 a.m.

    St. Mary's is a good team, which could compete in and beat any mighty Pac team. Byu needs to regroup and make a run, but they will be shut out of the big dance this year imo.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Feb. 15, 2014 9:53 a.m.

    It doesn't matter, this is a rec games for the rest of the regular season along with those rec officials. Just win it all in wcc tourney or stay home.

  • labman Pocatello, ID
    Feb. 15, 2014 9:50 a.m.

    all good comments. I love BYU sports and I appreciate the boys efforts to win and win with class; however, winning all the time isn't possible. I don't need to point out this team's deficiencies, they already know them, but you play with what you have and sometimes it's not enough to win.Every team is out to beat BYU in the league. Gonzaga doesn't have to deal with a different squad every year like Rose has to, but it's just the way it is. I hope we can get on a win streak going like we did in last's year NIT, but do it during the WCC tourney... now that would be cool! Beating St.Marys again would be kind of fun too..... and as long as I am making a wish list; how about the Refs calling the game consistently. let the players determine the outcome. I know it sounds like sour grapes, but a good friend of mine and a cougar hater, even remarked. why do the cougs get ripped by the refs? maybe he was just being nice to me after a bad loss. :)

  • The Deuce Livermore, CA
    Feb. 15, 2014 9:29 a.m.

    What ever happened to the BYU team I watched at stanford and then against Texas? They seemed to have left the buidling. The team seemed to completely abandon their stype of play that was so effective against both Stanford and Texas. Yes, the Cougars chances for any NCAA berth are slim to none at this point. Teams have found it easy to defend the Cougars. You simply keep Haws to 20 points and don't worry about the rest. BYU got beat bad inside against Pacific on Thursday. It will be no better on Saturday.

  • red.diehard Central, UT
    Feb. 15, 2014 9:15 a.m.


    Please give it a rest. Not every official in every sport has a vendetta or malice towards BYU. Officiating is not the problem.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Feb. 15, 2014 6:30 a.m.

    @Mike Johnson
    Stafford, VA

    "Good luck BYU at St. Mary's. Just like with my Utes, a win in California this Saturday will go a long way toward consideration for post-season play...I do think BYU has a better chance of pulling off the win, but I hope both succeed."

    Thank you sir! No hate, no malice, just pure classiness all around! Wish we could all be like that...root for our respective teams and still be kind and respectful to others. Thank you again!

    Go Cougars! Go Utes! Go Aggies!

  • PM64 Orem, UT
    Feb. 15, 2014 1:43 a.m.

    The way the referees allow Waldow to smash his opponents out of the way until he's close enough to score is reminiscent of the NBA when Charles Barkley was allowed to smash his giant behind into his opponents until he could make a layup. There wasn't much skill involved, just a huge bias for extremely physical "basketball" in favor of the offense. Fortunately the NBA decided this was detrimental to the game, and Barkley would foul out in six possessions under the new rules. Waldow should foul out in five, since the last time I checked, offensive fouls DO exist in the NCAA.

    If this weren't the worst free-throw shooting team in BYU history, they'd have at least three more wins. It's ghastly to see them clanking shot after shot, then losing close games. Without Haws and Halford shooting above 85%, this team would be at 50% (or worse) shooting free throws. Collinsworth is the most frustrating, since if he'd hit both free throws at the end of regulation in Jimmer's last game, BYU would have gone to the Elite 8 - and he hasn't gotten any better.

  • DodgerDoug Salem, UT
    Feb. 14, 2014 10:13 p.m.

    This BYU basketball team has been so disappointing!!!!!

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Feb. 14, 2014 8:46 p.m.

    Too bad Kaufusi can't suit up for this one on Saturday. Waldow is a load and Mika can't handle him. Go Cougs!!

  • Mike Johnson Stafford, VA
    Feb. 14, 2014 7:14 p.m.

    Good luck BYU at St. Mary's. Just like with my Utes, a win in California this Saturday will go a long way toward consideration for post-season play. A couple of key, tough, road matches with one of the leading teams in their respective conferences. I do think BYU has a better chance of pulling off the win, but I hope both succeed.

  • Cougar Blue 1 Henderson , NV
    Feb. 14, 2014 7:14 p.m.

    As upset as I was about last game, I have realized they have over achieved this season. Think about it. Other than Haws and at times Halford, who is a consistent shooter on this team? Mika has no jumper nor any of our other bigs. Same goes for our guards. Collinsworth is good at penetration, but he is not a reliable shooter. Combine all this with poor free throw shooting, and quite frankly I don't know how we have one so many of our other games. I am hoping for the best for the rest of the season, but it is looking like another NIT post season at best.