Democratic candidates running away from Obama

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  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Feb. 17, 2014 7:40 p.m.

    SCfan, sad about the partisanship. I never much cared for pretzels.

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    Feb. 17, 2014 3:19 p.m.


    Actually you are correct in some ways. A President many times has influence way beyond his tenure in office. There are still Federal Court judges on the bench that Jimmy Carter appointed. And, if the Patriot act were as long term and firmly established as apparantly Obamacare is, then yes we would be living under that for a long time too. However, I do believe there is a sunset clause on the Patriot Act. Only wish there was one for Obamacare.
    So here is my consistant principled statement. You would be just as opposed to a conservative Supreme Court as I am a liberal one. No? And the truth is, right now, Democrats are in fact running away from Obama because they fear the American public has had enough of him. I agree. And I hope it continues.

    P.S. If you can find it on the liberal news outlets, watch some on the "left" agreeing that Obama is overstepping his constitutional authority with some of his Executive Orders. If you can't find it there, try FOX News. They will inform you.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Feb. 17, 2014 12:01 p.m.

    @ SCfan, your rationalization makes my laugh out loud! So is Reagan a dictator in effect because his judicial appointments had a lasting legacy? Is GW Bush a dictator in effect because he gave us the Patriot Act? YOurs is nothing but a partisan rant, not a consistent principled statement. If I were to twist and turn with the various rationalizations to paint the President as a dictator, I would be in traction for my back for the rest of my life!

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    Feb. 17, 2014 7:06 a.m.


    Have you ever considered that if the nation gets stuck with Obamacare for decades to come, it will be the same as him being a dictator, even though is won't be in office. Plus if he gets another supreme court nomination, the balance might turn hard left, again creating a lasting influence that Americans will suffer with for years to come. In that way, Obama might very well be having the influence of a dictator. He won't need to be in office for us to be living under that bad policies he set in motion.

  • Getting Older Riverton, UT
    Feb. 16, 2014 6:00 p.m.

    If the GOP wants to win they had better come up with a vision of America. Running against something is never a good long-term strategy. Reagan won huge landslides because he had vision and could articulate it. He could criticize the Carter administration but, more often, painted a vision.

    Unfortunately, Reagan's vision of America is dead as more and more people sit and wait for the government to solve all our problems and create a little Utopia. All at someone else's expense.

  • Utefan60 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 16, 2014 4:59 p.m.

    I wonder if Mike Richards is going to refuse his Social Security benefits? Just another entitlement program right Mike?

    ACA is giving millions health care they could not get before and even some of the posters here will have to admit that letting those families go without is at very least unchristian.

  • freedomingood provo, Utah
    Feb. 15, 2014 7:22 p.m.

    Standard procedure. I remember when John McCain didn't want George Bush's endorsement.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 15, 2014 10:00 a.m.


    Republicans in DC are realizing they can't simply repeal Obamacare, wipe it away and declare victory. The benefactors of Obamacare are growing in number, and that can't be ignored.

    It's looking like 6 million Americans will be enrolled through the ACA website and associated state insurance exchanges by the end of March, below the 7 million projected originally, but how do Republicans tell these folks that their benefits are no longer valid?

    How do Republicans tell the parents of children with pre-existing conditions that the coverage they have now was a mistake? Answer: they can't, and they won't.

    ACA will need to be modified, certainly, but Republicans should realize that support for a single-payer system grows - ironically - the longer and more intensely the market-based mechanisms in Obamacare are demonized by Republicans.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Feb. 15, 2014 7:07 a.m.

    Even Obama is attempting to run away from Obamacare! Why else would he keep changing it, delaying it, massaging it, lying about it, trying to coerce young people to sign up and pay through the nose? He has to resort to illegally going around congress because its failing horribly and every Democrat in the nation knows it, hence they too are running away from it. And when (not if) Obamacare goes down, his legacy goes down with it. He cares more about his legacy than the millions of American people being harmed. By the way, how are each of you going to spend your $2500 per year Obama promised his healthcare plan will save the average American family in insurance premiums? The winning strategy for the GOP in Nov is to shine the light of truth and hold Democrat accountable for their lies and false promises about Obamacare!

  • KJB1 Eugene, OR
    Feb. 14, 2014 6:47 p.m.

    2 bits:

    "Obama's approval ratings are lower than any other President in modern history currently."

    And sixty seconds of research proves you wrong. According to today's Real Clear Politics listing, President Obama's approval rating average comes out to 43%. Rasmussen Reports (which plenty of conservatives swear by) has it at 49%.

    Meanwhile, George W. Bush was at 29% by the end of his second term.

    Thanks for playing, though...

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Feb. 14, 2014 5:04 p.m.

    Democrats will run from BO. Republicans will run from Cruz and Lee. They're politicans and will do whatever they can to stay on the gravy train. Until we change the system we'll all be stuck with the same old results.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Feb. 14, 2014 4:28 p.m.

    It's the middle of his second term.
    He's entering the part of his "Lame Duck" part of his Presidency.

    Besides -- I don't recall George W. Bush being called to endorse, take pictures, or kissing any babies with his fellow Republicans.

    Political Pariah,
    and he still is.

  • Schnee Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 14, 2014 3:51 p.m.

    If they think they can run away from Obamacare after voting for it, they've got another thing coming. They aren't going to fool anyone so they need to own it like Kentucky's Governor (who didn't even vote for it) and Kay Hagan (D-NC). If they're going to let Republicans define the narrative, they're going to lose.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Feb. 14, 2014 3:39 p.m.

    2bits "Hillary Clinton (who is Obama on steroids)"

    I have to really disagree with you this time 2bits. Obama is pretty moderate as Democrats go, and Hillary is way to the right of Obama. Both in foreign policy, and domestic policy.

    Hillary is Hawk, pure and simple, and has never been counted as a friend of labor.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Feb. 14, 2014 3:07 p.m.

    It is absurd that Utah Health Policy Project would tell Americans to demand that other Americans pay for their personal welfare, but that is exactly what they are doing. They tell us how many are "subsidized" by other Americans. Don't they understand that "personal" and "general" are two different words? Don't they understand that Obama and all who suport him, want us to think that somebody owes us personal benefits, when God holds us accountable for ourselves and those for whom we have stewardship? Nothing in the Constitution makes us accountable for the personal welfare of another American. NOTHING. Good people have always helped the less fortunate, but Obama and his liberal friends are telling us that the lazy, the drug addicts, the women and men who have sex outside of marriage and create babies, have a RIGHT to demand some "rich guy" pay for their mistakes. Each of us is accountable to our Creator for our own mistakes. We must pay fully that price before forgiveness is extended. There is no "get out of jail free" card in the Creator's plan. He expects us to be adults and to accept responsibility for our actions.

  • Zac Ogden, UT
    Feb. 14, 2014 1:54 p.m.

    Where are the cries of racism toward these democrats that don't want to be seen with Obama?

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Feb. 14, 2014 1:38 p.m.

    Political commentary in a Republican newspaper. Not worth a whole lot.

    HOw about you Republicans? Ready to hitch your wagon to Bush? Hah!

    Here's a funny one: "lost in DC" says we have Obama until 2017. Yet the Obama haters say he is going to be a dictator and never leave. The right wing needs to get its stories straight. Fox didn't give you the talking point?

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 14, 2014 1:01 p.m.

    lost in DC,
    Being stuck with Obama till 2017 is nothing compared to the thought of Hillary Clinton (who is Obama on steroids) running the country till 2025. Sorry... didn't mean to make you loose your lunch.

  • OneAmerican Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 14, 2014 12:53 p.m.

    They are running away from the president for political expediency, but continue to embrace his policies. They will talk like moderates or even embrace conservative values for the election, but then pass every socialist agenda item he presents once they get back in office. Worst yet, they don't defend the constitution they swore to protect, allowing him to violate it with his unilateral mandates to ignore the laws he swore to faithfully execute.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 14, 2014 12:40 p.m.

    Smart politicians run from failed policies (or leaders who are perceived to have failed).

    I don't think enough people think Obama failed that anybody needs to run from him. Most of his faithful will be faithful even IF he failed. It's more than mere politics to them. It's religion. You can't loose the faith (that would be heresy).

    Bennett should have run from Bush in 2010, but instead he embraced Bush (thinking the party faithful would reward him for that). But he didn't understand the sentiment towards Bush and TARP back here in Utah. He only understood the game in Washington. His party handlers lead him into a failed reelection strategy of doubling down on Bush era failures. It was too late by the time he came back to Utah to campaign and found out there were serious problems with embracing big spending, big bailouts, etc... he was out of touch with his constituents... and too in touch with Washington palls.

    Obama's approval ratings are lower than any President in modern history currently. But he's still super popular with his base. So it's a hard decision.

  • Utah Health Policy Project Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 14, 2014 12:38 p.m.

    Although perusing the details of Congressional races in Florida can be fun, it's also like reading the box score of a Mets-Yankees baseball game. It doesn't matter much here in Utah.
    Here's what does matter in our state.
    The insurance marketplace is working in Utah. Since October we've know that Utah's private insurance premiums on healthcare-dot-gov are among the lowest in the country. A 30 year-old Salt Lake resident can get a high-quality Silver plan for $162/month before premium subsidies. A 50 year-old can get a plan for $248/month before subsidies. And over 84% of Utahns who shop for private insurance on healthcared-dot-gov are getting these subsidies.
    Now is the time to sign up - on healthcare-dot-gov. The deadline for enrollment is March 31, 2014. If you need assistance, check out the local certified experts at takecareutah-dot-org, or by calling United Way's 2-1-1 free information line.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 14, 2014 12:30 p.m.

    too bad the nation cannot run away from BO - we are stuck with him until 2017.