Bill targets 'aggressive' panhandling, conduct that 'impedes traffic'

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  • skeptic Phoenix, AZ
    Feb. 12, 2014 3:50 p.m.

    @Redshirt, the problem with your egotistic rationalization is that supposedly we the people are the government, but the power of government is usurped by the rich and powerful to stuff their own lunch pails leaving the poor and powerless begging in the streets. Unfortunately the problem social/financial disparity is too invasive in America for an individual to solve; it is a government job. However, I agree with you that we should each do what we can to assist those in need.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Feb. 12, 2014 1:00 p.m.

    To "skeptic" wow, you really sound like Scrooge before the ghosts came to visit. Why is it that government has to do anything? Why can't help be organized by YOU?

    Why turn to the government? That is like complaining about how hot a fire is, just before you add in another log. Government feeds on special programs. The more you give it, the bigger it becomes. Eventually it becomes so big and so intrusive that it kills those that it ws meant to serve.

  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 12, 2014 10:43 a.m.

    Phoenix, AZ

    I am uncertain about AZ, but Utah has federal, state and private charitable recourses available for the homeless including social workers who can assist. Begging is supplementary income for most panhandlers.Their plight is not the fault of the "greedy rich." Demonize either the rich or the poor is not a constructive solution.

  • lqqk pocatello, ID
    Feb. 12, 2014 10:43 a.m.

    In Idaho I saw 2 panhandler on opposite side of the street each holding a sign that they were veterans in need and God bless and all the rest of the sob story. Working the streets. Veterans have access to disabilty and other benefits. They were obviously working at making money for those that feel sorry for them and haven't taken the time to think and observe. In Salt Lake when we were visiting with our children, my daughter saw a panhandler begging. She took all her small spending allowance for our trip and gave it to the man. Then we saw him get into a cadillac. She was devastated. I will never give to a panhandler. The other thing that really gripes me is to see them begging and have a large dog to feed with them. If they are so hungry maybe ......

  • Spears II Oregon City, OR
    Feb. 12, 2014 9:32 a.m.

    I think the issue of panhandling is a very difficult problem for civil leaders. I really feel for cities trying to address this issue. As an aspiring economist, I recently conducted a field experiment to satisfy my own curiosity on just how much money panhandlers can make. I went undercover and spent 80 hours panhandling at an exit ramp. My average hourly wage was considerably north of minimum wage ($8.90 an hour). I also collected interesting data on the people who donated. I wrote about my experiences in a book called Exit Ramp: A Short Case Study of the Profitability of Panhandling. I think any city dealing with this problem needs to acknowledge that there are both those who panhandle because of an inability to get steady employment (mental health issues), and those who panhandle because it is possible to earn good money doing it. Figuring out how to help the one and discourage the other is no easy task.

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 12, 2014 8:57 a.m.

    Street corners are another hazardous situation. Signs posted at strategic locations (street corners or sidewalks near off/on ramps) giving locations of the nearest shelter or other facility for aid to homeless/poor would help people while avoiding hazardous situations- drivers would know that these people have access to help.

  • Hey It's Me Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 12, 2014 8:48 a.m.

    What does concretebo's comment have to do with this article? I thought comments are now review to make sure they relate. Next, my husband lost a job as it was shipped to another country. We had a mortgage to pay. He worked 3 part-time jobs till he found a full time one. There are jobs available to those willing to work. The news has shown us that many of these panhandlers (this is their job) they collect a 100 to 200 dollars a day and pay no taxes on any of it. I feel bad for the true homeless people but there are places for them to get meals and sleep and they try to help the homeless get jobs. A lot of people are not willing to work for minimum wage. My husband worked three jobs at one time.

  • vangroovin West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 12, 2014 8:49 a.m.

    My personal opinion is that panhandlers should spend their time trying to get a job instead of begging for money. I'm bothered by the blame game that some homeless place on their circumstance. I've been out of work with 5 kids and I know what that felt like. I secured a part time job at $9 per hour. It was tough, but it gave me something productive to do that helped me feel better about myself and actually opened the door for a better opportunity. These people who are homeless, while I feel bad they don't have a home and other necessities of life, I have to ask, 'what are you doing to make your situation better?' Standing on the corner begging isn't making a tough situation better nor is it helping society any. To the homeless I ask, what skills do you have that you can use to contribute to society? Don't blame your circumstances for whatever plight you have found yourself in. Rather, rise up to meet your potential (which is much greater than you realize).

  • skeptic Phoenix, AZ
    Feb. 12, 2014 8:40 a.m.

    There needs to be better federal and state social programs to aid America's unfortunate so that they don't have to stand out in the cold streets and beg for a few crumbs from the replete tables of the greedy rich.

  • Eliot Genola, UT
    Feb. 12, 2014 8:16 a.m.

    Most panhandlers are not destitute, homeless people.

  • concretebo Sandy, UT
    Feb. 12, 2014 7:56 a.m.

    Actually Happy to Be Here .
    I believe in a woman' s choice to do with her body as she so chooses. I do not like the fact that there are woman out there that use an abortion as an easy fix for their promiscuity .Not for abortion other than a Rape .

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    Feb. 12, 2014 7:35 a.m.

    Amazing that anyone would vote against such reasonable legislation. Especially when it is such an obvious menace to society to have panhandlers blocking roads and traffic. Can't imagine the arguments on the other side, but won't be surprised to see them. Doubt that the liberal side would defend the abortion protesters being able to do this stuff. We'll see.

  • Idahoan138 Pocatello, ID
    Feb. 11, 2014 11:36 p.m.

    Reasonable legislation. Here in Pocatello last year I saw a panhandler unwisely standing on the tip of an island at an intersection in icy road conditions. The road is such that cars have the potential to skid on ice and ride up onto the island, out of control. I presume the panhandler didn't realize his jeopardy because he wasn't driving, and couldn't tell just how slick that curved bit of road was.