State lawmakers consider bill to exempt Utah spy center from having to pay a utility tax

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  • Fitz Murray, UT
    Feb. 12, 2014 2:18 p.m.

    Fascinating, isn't it? The Legislature wants to give the NSA a $6 Million tax break on utilities, while at the same time they want to raise sales and gas taxes on Utah citizens. Something smells here, and it is not a nice smell.

  • E. Hindman Ogden, UT
    Feb. 12, 2014 1:21 p.m.

    To Jerry Stevenson and Stuart Reid and the other 20 senators that supported this bill - make NSA pay the utilities tax. Verbal agreements, if there really was one in this situation, just doesn't hold any credibility.

  • lket Bluffdale, UT
    Feb. 12, 2014 11:46 a.m.

    this is the stuff they will do when they move the prison. no taxes and give them water rights just like when micron moved to utah. only the rich will dowell when they move the prison. and if there is a power outage nsa will have power before residents will.

  • Midwest Mom Soldiers Grove, WI
    Feb. 12, 2014 11:13 a.m.

    Sounds like a lot of water, to me. And I thought that was in short supply in your state. Getting freebies won't make them likely to conserve. Then guess who will pay again. I'm glad to see Utahns get uncomfortable with this facility. Why would anyone want such a place to be built?

    Oh. Right. Money.

  • Call2Action Thatcher, UT
    Feb. 12, 2014 11:05 a.m.

    Sorry, but the wrong approach is being taken here. Other states are doing the opposite. One is even trying to prevent the NSA facility there from getting power and water.

    The NSA is so corrupt I wouldn't be surprised it the real reason is to drug the millions of gallons of water used each week. Maybe it gets put into bottles and gets sent free to the Utah House and Senate.

  • AT Elk River, MN
    Feb. 12, 2014 10:20 a.m.

    Instead of giving them a tax break, why don't we just turn off the water to the facility and shut it down? Why are the people of Utah supporting the NSA and all it's illegal and unconstitutional activities? Wake up folks. The "jobs" aren't worth it.

  • apm22 sparks, NV
    Feb. 12, 2014 9:57 a.m.

    They want Utahns to pay for the NSA to illegally spy on all Americans?

  • NedGrimley Brigham City, UT
    Feb. 12, 2014 9:39 a.m.

    "'We need to adhere to the commitment that we made,' Stevenson said Tuesday on the Senate floor."

    From the tone of the article, there needs to be an explanation of WHO made this "commitment".

    "The Senate preliminarily approved the bill Tuesday 22-7, with many senators signaling they might change their votes when it comes up for final passage."

    Why do they play these silly internal political games. Either you're for it or against it, unless there's politics at play. Very smelly...

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Feb. 12, 2014 7:55 a.m.

    It's built already. What are they going to do? Move it? Make them pay the tax. What's 6 mil a year when the bloated federal budget is in the trillions? That's not even a drop in the bucket. More like an atom on the surface of my skin.

  • Thid Barker Victor, ID
    Feb. 12, 2014 6:20 a.m.

    We wanted a president who listens to all Americans - now we have one.

  • sb10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 12, 2014 2:06 a.m.

    This agency performs blanket warrantless surveillance on us, sweeping up every cell phone transmission, email, buddy list, and whatever else it can pick up in any appliance in your home or car with a digital recording device. This is blatantly unconstitutional.

    "Security" leaders are on the record as saying they perform the massive warrantless surveillance because to perform narrow searches on persons suspected of terrorism are too difficult. Whether or not it is "convenient" their actions still violate our constitutional rights.

    The NSA uses the data it collects and computers to calculate their next targeted drone strikes. God help the victims when their algorithms malfunction. What a great way to remove yourself from accountability for killing somebody.

    So far 12 states are pushing forward legislation to stop the delivery of natural resources to NSA centers. Utah is in a terrible drought and the NSA data center needs as much as 1.7 million gallons of water daily to cool the servers storing all your personal data. To aid and abet the agency's illegal activities by continuing to deliver water is the definition of insanity.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 11, 2014 9:40 p.m.

    There are so many unanswered questions to this situation that it's hard to believe approving this facility was a wise idea.

    -How does the employment of only 200 people justify the consumption of electricity and water this facility requires?

    -How does the presence of this facility benefit Utah or citizens of Utah?

    -How is possible that water and electricity rates won't go up?

    -How do local politicians believe that giving the facility a $6 MILLION a year tax break will result in anything positive for us?

    -Note: 325,851 gallons of water = an acre foot, or the amount of water a family of five would use in a YEAR. At 1.7 MILLION gallons of water a day consumed by this facility, they would use the equivalent of five acre feet a DAY.

    This is corrupt politics. Money has exchanged hands for this bizarre result to happen.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Feb. 11, 2014 6:10 p.m.

    What? This is absurd. Any legislator that votes for this needs to lose our votes this Fall.

  • Kings Court Alpine, UT
    Feb. 11, 2014 6:04 p.m.

    Well, I guess the spy center is not a boon to the state like we were told.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 11, 2014 5:31 p.m.

    The last I heard; the NSA had plenty of money.

    I know because I send them some (taxes) every year. Just like the rest of us.

    Where/when are the tax breaks for the rest of us?