I have seen the young student families at BYU up close. I can say that both
parents, from what I have seen, take on child rearing in a very fair and worthy
fashion. Young fathers take the time to "parent" as true partners with
mothers. I was very impressed. I've seen fathers take babies so mothers
could attend classes where both parents were attending school. I was very
heartened for the future of the church considering the tender and considerate
way I saw families behave.
Chris B:"If the honor code wasn't enforced this number would drop
dramatically."Yes, and if sexual assault wasn't enforced
the number of rapes at the U of U would increase (2 reported since January
22)Chris B alleges that BYU students get married because they want
to have sex, what do U of U students do?
@ Michael RocheYou do not have to be married to have children, nor
do you have to have children after you are married. However, if you deny two
consenting adults the right to marry because they cannot naturally reproduce,
than infertile couples and elderly couples must also be banned from marriage
since they can not reproduce either.Marriage is not about children,
it's about two consenting adults who love each other.
The title of this article should have been:"Data shows something
that we already knew."Or...:"Deseret News
wasting money on printing common knowledge"
Dear Liahona:Unfortunately, there are many statistics put out that
are false.Dear Schnee: The world you advocate is one where only the
emotional desires of adults matter--not what's best for families, children
and society. That's a very selfish and harmful world....a world that is
headed for self destruction.
How many of those will end in divorce. Not sure where I read it- that Utah had
the highest divorce rate of LDS married people going to BYU. They marry so
young, put each other through school and have loads of kids - that can't be
@Michael RocheSingle people can adopt, infertile couples can marry,
children are not a requirement for marriage nor is marriage a requirement for
those with children, adoption and in-vitro still exist, and the primary church
in this state doesnt' mention children once in its websites' page
about beliefs related to marriage (it mentions "family" once,
that's as close as it gets). Marriage already isn't child-centric in
@Michael Roche:"JD, Utah has made reasonable, non-bigoted arguments against
gay marriage"Many find that statement patently false! The SCOTUS will
soon rule on this as well and it's probable that they also find that
statement patently false. The rest of your comment has no basis in fact.
truth..forms: Heaven forbid two people should commit to each other, get married
and have babies. Gosh, maybe they'll raise a family. How archaic.
Dear JD:This story is about marriage.....true marriage....legitimate
marriage....actual marriage...marriage that creates children and an eternal
family--not a counterfeit, pretend version.
If you don't like it, don't go to BYU! Problems solved.
JD, Utah has made reasonable, non-bigoted arguments against gay marriage. You
can find them in this newspaper and in Utah's brief to the 10th circuit.
For example, if we define 'marriage' as the union of any two
consenting adults, then marriage will become less about children and more about
romance. Gay marriage will reduce the importance of children in marriage; while
most mother/father marriages can spontaneously create children, no gay marriage
can do the same. Therefore, approving gay marriages implicitly underscores the
importance of the adult experience of romance, while undercutting the importance
of children. In addition, a mother paired with a father create greater success
for children, statistically, than any other combination (or lack thereof) of
consenting adults.Divorce rates are increasing and birth rates are
decreasing, which are bad for children, society, and the economy. Utah has
decided that, as a state, it should encourage child-centered marriages by
defining 'marriage' as between a man and a woman. Many other methods
of encouraging child-centered marriages do not encourage mother/father unions
(the best for rearing children), or are not cost-effective, or are not effective
I saw this article elsewhere with the same flaw.Compared to what? Is the
national average 2% or 22%?You give us this piece of information with no
This goes to show that Utah and especially the LDS population in Utah value
marriage. They value marriage enough to lead the nation in such. I
personally thought it would have been a higher percentage of married students at
Its only 25% Have you ever been to provo? its got to be at least 75% everyone
has babies there.
I think that would also find the the average age of students at BYU is older the
every other university in America so they are much closer to the ages listed by
the fact that many are returned missionaries. You will see the trend going even
higher when the current 18/19 YO departing missionaries all return and the
mission president's advice to get hitched takes effect.
@ TruthYou can marry who you love. They can't. That is
JD ....they have the same rights that you do.....but your right...the men
can't marry men and women can't marry women....so that make it equal
in my book.....what you are asking for is inequality!
If the honor code wasn't enforced this number would drop dramatically.