New legislation seeks to affirm religious freedom in military

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  • Lew Scannon Provo, UT
    Feb. 16, 2014 12:34 p.m.

    Nice to know our freedoms are being protected by a bunch of people who don't believe in granting others their Constitutional freedoms.

    Feb. 9, 2014 4:10 p.m.

    24-7 says, people who do such things are not real Christians

    I always find it interesting when Christians say that they get to decide who the "real" Christians are; yet when Muslims say that the extremists aren't "real" Muslims, they refuse to believe it - saying anyone who claims to be Muslim has to be Muslim.

  • Gibster San Antonio, TX
    Feb. 9, 2014 2:15 p.m.

    This article is confusing First it talks about the Jewish officer who's supervisor ordered him to read the Bible in 24 hours and accept Jesus after finding out he was Jewish. Then it talks about a 2012 memo from Air Force Gen. Schwartz that commands leaders to “avoid the actual or apparent use of their position to promote their personal religious beliefs”.

    Than said Leanna Baumer, senior legislative assistant for government affairs with the Family Research Council.says “Rather than erring on the side of restraining religious speech, we need to encourage our military to live in accordance to their faith,”

    Which one of these positions does Sen Lee believe is wrong?

  • The Skeptical Chymist SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Feb. 9, 2014 10:05 a.m.

    The examples described in this article of persecution against Jews in the military are just the tip of the iceberg. The problem is persecution of all who are not deemed to be Christian enough. Even mainstream, non-evangelical Christians are persecuted. I applaud Senator Lee's concern with the problem, and hope that he is not duped by the Family Research Council's duplicity. They are part of the problem - always leaping to the defense of the persecutors, who are invariably fundamentalist Christians seeking to force their views on others.

    The article also presents a very misleading description of the painting that was removed from the Mountain Home AFB, suggesting that it was only removed because it quoted a Bible verse. I quoted "Blessed are the peacemakers", but showed a Crusader with a cross on his chest, holding the flag of the crusades (again with a cross) morphing into an air force officer holding the US flag. The implication - that the US is the modern version of the Crusaders - going to war against the Muslim infidels - should never have been put up in the cafeteria of the AFB. It does a gross injustice to those practicing Muslims in our military.

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    Feb. 9, 2014 9:05 a.m.

    What happened to the days of the post WWII generation, the greatest generation? This would never have happened. Religious expression was much more tolerated, not only in the military and in the community, in general. This immature religious bigotry evolved over several decades.
    I was also a victim of religious bigotry in the fire department, 30 years ago. I was working my way into a position of a permanent position. I was involved in mapping all of the water department's sources, with that of the city of West Covina's fire department. I had gotten praise for my work. Then, when some of the men in the station I was working in found out I was LDS, I was confronted by a bigot who challenged me to a fight. I was shocked. I came home, and told my non-LDS father. He went ballistic. He promptly made a call to the city manager, in my defense. I was interviewed. The perpetrator was temporarily given a few days off. Then, they isolated me to another fire station. From then on, they put pressure on me to quit, with false accusations of suddenly being a laggard. I had to quit.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Feb. 9, 2014 9:06 a.m.

    The problem is that the military is a hierarchical organisation where a lot of things aren't optional, and religion has become one of them. It's infected the military terribly.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Feb. 9, 2014 8:43 a.m.

    Evangelical Christianity = intolerance.

    I have seen similar things at the base where I work.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    Feb. 9, 2014 8:35 a.m.

    The separation of church and state and religious freedom has to learn respect. That should of been learned in elementary school.

  • Susan Smith San Antonio, TX
    Feb. 9, 2014 8:14 a.m.

    The mission of the military is missionary, it is military.

  • Christian 24-7 Murray, UT
    Feb. 9, 2014 7:58 a.m.

    "Weinstein blames religious intolerance in the military on a “Christian Taliban” of “fundamentalist Christians” run amok."

    I can assure you that people who do such things are not real Christians, not people who follow and live the teachings of Jesus Christ. It is insulting to intimate that this behavior is endorsed by Christian churches. It would never be endorsed in any of the many Christian churches I have attended. Such persecution is abhorred by Christians.

    As a Christian, putting the word 'Christian' with the word 'Taliban' is offensive. Those in the Taliban (call themselves the Taliban) freely persecute Christians.

  • Badgerbadger Murray, UT
    Feb. 9, 2014 7:43 a.m.

    Jewish persecution in our military. A Jewish recruit beaten unconscious by our own guys! We need to stop this now.

    The last thing we want to become is Hitler's military, Hitler's country, picking the superior group of people and persecuting the rest.

    People need to think about every policy they advocate, and make sure it won't be used to pick winners at the expense of others.

    Thank you Mike Lee, for being one who takes us FURTHER from Hitler's Germany, instead of one of the many who lead us towards that disaster.

    I wonder when those who advocate for total state control, who freely hate groups that PC allows them to hate, will review history and see where it leads.